AP is going to be a beast

[UKGrad93]

Same guy was the hero in a lot of people's minds last year. He was the guy that could have shut down Sam Decker, except he was injured.

Now, just a few weeks into the season, coming off that injury, the guy is a bust.

Hero or Zero.

 

[spotter34]

Speaking of reading comprehension problems, did you ever bother to read the title of this thread? Your drivel clearly falls into that same Poythress bashing vein. You just aren't man enough to own up to it. Putting me on ignore is probably best as you can't handle exposure of your thinly veiled Poythress trash fest. Pardon those of us that take exception to lazy boy coaching wannabes that think they can evaluate a player better than those around that player for hours and are paid millions for the task. What nerve!!

I can't put you on ignore because I think I can eventually help you. Remember this and apply it in your life. Just because you continue to say things that aren't true over and over doesn't eventually make it true. Your welcome!

 

[kybassfan]

I can't put you on ignore because I think I can eventually help you. Remember this and apply it in your life. Just because you continue to say things that aren't true over and over doesn't eventually make it true. Your welcome!

Huh? What's that got to do with Poythress?

 

[BBUK]

Never read but a couple posts in this thread. Leaving it up is very telling. A bad job by a certain group. If not bashing then nothing is.

 

[MSU129]

Same guy was the hero in a lot of people's minds last year. He was the guy that could have shut down Sam Decker, except he was injured.

Now, just a few weeks into the season, coming off that injury, the guy is a bust.

Hero or Zero.

This is true, he would have helped against WI I believe. Let me rephrase the title of the thread for the people getting their panties in a wad, "I'm saying AP did not live up to his potential." He is going from one of the top recruits to probably undrafted. Doesn't mean he isn't a good player and can't do some things better than others (guard decker and rebound), but for someone to be a top recruit they typically get drafted, and he probably will not. As some have alluded to they thought he may be better than Mashburn, and he has the body to be...I just don't think he has the sports mentality to be.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Same guy was the hero in a lot of people's minds last year. He was the guy that could have shut down Sam Decker, except he was injured.

Now, just a few weeks into the season, coming off that injury, the guy is a bust.

Hero or Zero.

It's UK fan logic of if we had Anderson we beat Arizona (I agree), if we had WCS we beat UCONN (maybe, but based on his NCAA Tournament play at times this past season not so sure anymore) and if we had Poy we beat Wisconsin (Probably, but still not a sure thing).

 

[BBUK]

Still waiting for a title change (at the least) (Oh, I don't wear panties...) Wrong is wrong.

 

[MSU129]

Still waiting for a title change (at the least) (Oh, I don't wear panties...) Wrong is wrong.

Changed. Now put on your drawers.

 

[BBUK]

Changed. Now put on your drawers.

Much better and I have my "long handles" on today. (Don't peek, I'm married.) It's cold in these "thar" hills of South Carolina near "da" ocean.....

 

[preacher_tom]

He is injured, jesus.

That may be the case. In the name of A Jesus let Alex be healed as good as he was on the the day he was born.. Amen

 

[Wall2Boogie]

Op you had a nice 11 yr run with your handle and managed to rack up 36 likes. Changing the title won't help your like ability but I applaud your effort

 

[throatpoker]

Op you had a nice 11 yr run with your handle and managed to rack up 36 likes. Changing the title won't help your like ability but I applaud your effort

100% chance one of the mods changed it like they did my jahlil ocanfor street fight title

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

^^^^i must have missed that? What did they change it to? Just curious?

 

[throatpoker]

they edited it to "jahlil okafor street fight video"

 

[westerncat]

Poy can still be a serviceable NBA player. The problem Poythress has is that he is an NBA small forward, but he doesn't have the basketball skill to play small forward. He has the athletic ability, but his dribbling and shooting are not good enough for him to be a real threat at small forward. I believe that Cal tried to develop him as a small forward to prepare him for the NBA. Had he been prepared as a power forward UK would have been a lot better off and it probably would have fit Poy's basketball skill better. However, it may not have been best for Poythress long term.

Cal has attempted to get the best of both worlds out of Poy on offense by putting him at the short corner. This allows Poythress to step back and shoot some threes and play like a small forward at times, but also allows him to get the ball on the short corner and take the ball to the basket with one or no dribbles. Playing there also allows UK to take advantage of Poy's best asset, his athletic rebounding ability. Having Poy rebound from the short corner gives UK a lot of offensive putback/dunk opportunities.

I think the best way to utilize Poy at the short corner is to play pick and roll with a big man. Skal and Ulis would be good here. Skal picks for Ulis and rolls and there is a shot opportunity for Skal (much like UCLA got with the big white kid). If Ulis sees the hole then he can drive, which will often mean that the man guarding Poy will have to step up to stop Ulis. This leaves an open lob to Poy, or a little dump pass to Poy on a short cut. Either way it leads to a dunk for Poy, which is his best shot (haha). Where UK will struggle with this, and in turn Poy, is when opposing teams play zone. That is when Poy will have to actually hit a few jumpers from that short corner. If he can do that then he can loosen up that zone and help the offense out a lot. So far this year Poy has struggled shooting, so I hope that improves.

Great Post!

 

[LetsHang#9]

This is my last post to you...

Liar.

 

[kybassfan]

This is true, he would have helped against WI I believe. Let me rephrase the title of the thread for the people getting their panties in a wad, "I'm saying AP did not live up to his potential." He is going from one of the top recruits to probably undrafted. Doesn't mean he isn't a good player and can't do some things better than others (guard decker and rebound), but for someone to be a top recruit they typically get drafted, and he probably will not. As some have alluded to they thought he may be better than Mashburn, and he has the body to be...I just don't think he has the sports mentality to be.

And the ACL had nothing to do with it. That's rich.

 

[ClockCalamity]

Even before his injury he has been as he is now.

Yep. Same guy. He's been Wayne Blackshear-ed. He just can't, or doesn't care to, get out of his head. I question his mental toughness and/or his desire to be great.

 

[ClockCalamity]

The main problem for AP is his hands. He's clumsy catching, rebounding and passing. If he had good hands he'd be a monster with his athletic ability. His clumsiness has a lot to do with his lack of confidence/aggression.

This too. Bad hand-eye coordination.

 

[Blueaz]

Richard Madison comes to mind

i don't the blaster had the same intellect as Poy
but I see the comparison of awesome play then "a not paying attention" foul. Not lazy play, almost like they got caught daydreaming...just lack of concentration on the court.
i do really like Poy, he is a great representative of UK and he is and should be a fan favorite

 

[GLR5555]

Some one clearly pulled the ole' switch-a-roo.

 

[kybassfan]

They changed it. Clearly the children got left on the street again. Makes me wonder if the thread was intended for baiting and bashing all along.

 

[smooth as butter]

In Poy I trust.

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Lmao did the mods really change the title?

Its a UK forum. We discuss the team/players..not everything will be all sunshine, even if u don't agree w/ the hot takes.

 

[donkat]

Tell us how you really feel!

I did.

 

[kybassfan]

Changed. Now put on your drawers.

I think this guy (OP) changed it.

Wonder what MSU stands for? Mich St? Mississippi State?

 

[MSU129]

I think this guy (OP) changed it.

Wonder what MSU stands for? Mich St? Mississippi State?

Or Murray State University. Grew up a UK fan, went to MSU, but I cheer for both and they never play each other so I have never had to pick a side.

 

[tapemaster8]

Or Murray State University. Grew up a UK fan, went to MSU, but I cheer for both and they never play each other so I have never had to pick a side.

But if you did?

 

[MSU129]

But if you did?

Depends on the year. If it was a team like last year where UK was going to be 40-0, then UK. If it was the year Nerlens got hurt and Murray had a good team, then I would have cheered for Murray because we have never been far in the tourney and UK wasn't winning it all that year.

 

[Icecoldbrewdoggy]

Tenacity is a good word. He's tenacious in the classroom, that's for sure. He'll be successful in life, which is all that counts at the end of the day.

Thanks for the likes. Apparently, I'm a Louisville Troll that is infiltrating this site. I plan on spending 100's and 100's of hours here so that I can eventually get banned. It's how I apparenlty roll.....I search for ways to completeley waste my time....

 

[kybassfan]

Y'all was sayin about Alex?

 

[MSU129]

Y'all was sayin about Alex?

He had a good game, but as a Murray state fan msu has had players put up those kind of numbers too. He has to do this against big teams with bigs if he wants to go pro. I never said he couldn't have gone to Austin Peay and not dominate the conference. I said he hadn't lived up to the top 10 ranking out of high school. I thought this might be his year and I still hope so.

 

[spotter34]

Y'all was sayin about Alex?

He played well tonight no doubt. I saw this on KSR and it sums what I've tried to say about Alex in this thread:

“He was the difference maker,” said Dan McHale, Eastern Kentucky’s head coach. “He is a pro when he wants to be. When that motor clicks and he starts playing at the speed he played tonight, he is very tough to guard. He is jumping off trampolines and finishing in traffic — he’s a special, special player.”

John Calipari, on the other hand, refused to comment in depth about Poythress’ MVP performance. Coach Cal called his senior “outstanding” with a “near perfect game,” but then diverted any further questioning about Poythress to Poythress himself.

“He’s coming out there. You ask him,” he said.

That is Cal’s way of saying he doesn’t know why Poythress can be so good one night and disappear the next. He wants Poythress to explain it, so he can find out, too".

He deserves all the praise he can get with his performance tonight. Now can he sustain it. Getting 21 points from him most games will be difficult but I think he's capable of double figure rebounds most nights when he plays with that kind of aggressiveness.

 

[fabcat]

Richard Madison comes to mind

The Master Blaster is a great comparison to Poy. He could be all world one game and then disappear for several games after that.

 

[kybassfan]

He played well tonight no doubt. I saw this on KSR and it sums what I've tried to say about Alex in this thread:

“He was the difference maker,” said Dan McHale, Eastern Kentucky’s head coach. “He is a pro when he wants to be. When that motor clicks and he starts playing at the speed he played tonight, he is very tough to guard. He is jumping off trampolines and finishing in traffic — he’s a special, special player.”

John Calipari, on the other hand, refused to comment in depth about Poythress’ MVP performance. Coach Cal called his senior “outstanding” with a “near perfect game,” but then diverted any further questioning about Poythress to Poythress himself.

“He’s coming out there. You ask him,” he said.

That is Cal’s way of saying he doesn’t know why Poythress can be so good one night and disappear the next. He wants Poythress to explain it, so he can find out, too".

He deserves all the praise he can get with his performance tonight. Now can he sustain it. Getting 21 points from him most games will be difficult but I think he's capable of double figure rebounds most nights when he plays with that kind of aggressiveness.

Just admit it. You and MSU fan are Poy haters. You are quoting out of context, ignoring a severe injury and doing every possible thing you can to bash the kid. Go bash also rans like Murray State and stop trashing a fine student athlete. Poy made you guys look like idiots tonight and he is STILL not fully recovered.

Airheads exposed.

 

[doneitall]

The op is a fortune teller by calling how poythress would play. He was super good tonight.

 

[Dreklie]

I like how he slick changed the title of the post lmao.

 

[JwUKFan11]

I like how he slick changed the title of the post lmao.

It was changed yesterday

 

[spotter34]

Just admit it. You and MSU fan are Poy haters. You are quoting out of context, ignoring a severe injury and doing every possible thing you can to bash the kid. Go bash also rans like Murray State and stop trashing a fine student athlete. Poy made you guys look like idiots tonight and he is STILL not fully recovered.

Airheads exposed.

I won't admit that I'm a Poy hater because I'm not. The fact that you keep spewing that garbage just proves you're an antagonist and just like stirring the pot whether you want to admit that or not.

I and others have merely pointed out the fact that Alex doesn't play like he did tonight every game. Nothing I quoted was out of context. It's the whole paragraph from Cal's presser and the opinion of the writer. Whether you care to admit it or not Alex doesn't play with the passion he played with tonight every game. That's not bashing, that's stating a fact. Yes, he's recovering from an injury but he wasn't injured the other 2 1/2 years. It's clear you know nothing about basketball, you just like to get on message boards and bait. Here's to hoping Alex keeps up the play we saw tonight. Fire away.

 

[MSU129]

I won't admit that I'm a Poy hater because I'm not. The fact that you keep spewing that garbage just proves you're an antagonist and just like stirring the pot whether you want to admit that or not.

Yes, I'm not a hater either I just finally had to admit that he is not ever going to be the player I expected or that we expected. I had friends bashing him before his injury and just kept saying some people take time to get their confidence. Like I said I hope he has 20 and 10 the rest of the year. You keep referring the injury, but I guess your mind doesn't go back prior to the injury either. Here are 40 games for you http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/alex-poythress-1/gamelog/2014/ and 2 of them he had double digit rebounds and 7 double digit points. The interesting part is the last like 20 games of that season...the ones that really matter and against tough competition he avg around 6 points and 2 rebounds.

Opponent Minutes Rbds Pts
Uconn 17 5 4
Wis 29 7 8
Mich 18 3 8
UL 14 4 6
Wich St 15 2 6
KSU 17 2 3
Fl 13 2 7

Now I know defense can come into play, but even with that he avg less than 1 block a game and 1 steal. I know there is more to defense than those stats, but without remember each game I can only compare stats.

So again, I was the one saying give him time, but I have now come to accept that he probably is never going to live up to his potential. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope he plays like last night the rest of the year...if so I'll eat crow in the tourney! Also for the one who thinks I changed the thread title after the game...it was before the game because people were crying on here about me saying bust.