Amusing; These MSU Fans Claiming IF They Land Jackson/Bridges 1 Of Greatest Classes Ever

[dlh331]

That would be 3 x 5* and 2-3 x 4*.

Calipari has at least FIVE classes better in the last 6 years:

2009 3 x 5*, including the #2 in Wall and #3 player in Cousins, #19 Orton, 2 x 4* including a vastly underrated Bledsoe

2010 4 x 5* (Knight, Kanter, Jones, Lamb) 4* Poole and 4* Vargas

2011 4 x 5* including #2 Davis, #3 MKG, #7 Teague, #19 Wiltjer

2013 6 x 5* including #2, #5, #6, #9, #9, #18 + Kentucky POY

2014 4 x 5*

2016 Monk, Fox, Simmons, Killeya-Jones, others

That doesn't even count the Fab 5 of Michigan, UNC's 3 or 4 classes, Dukes 3-5 great classes, UCLA's, etc.

If MSU gets those guys they will be #3 behind UK and Duke...and maybe NC State.

Darryl

 

[Aike]

It's obnoxious.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

That would be 3 x 5* and 2-3 x 4*.

Calipari has at least FIVE classes better in the last 6 years:

2010 3 x 5*, including the #2 in Wall and #3 player in Cousins, #19 Orton, 2 x 4* including a vastly underrated Bledsoe

2011 4 x 5* (Knight, Kanter, Jones, Lamb) 4* Poole and 4* Vargas

2012 4 x 5* including #2 Davis, #3 MKG, #7 Teague, #19 Wiltjer

2014 6 x 5* including #2, #5, #6, #9, #9, #18 + Kentucky POY

2015 4 x 5*

2016 Monk, Fox, Simmons, Killeya-Jones, others

That doesn't even count the Fab 5 of Michigan, UNC's 3 or 4 classes, Dukes 3-5 great classes, UCLA's, etc.

If MSU gets those guys they will be #3 behind UK and Duke...and maybe NC State.

Darryl

I had the same response in the thread, I broke it all down for him.

He knows.

But Bledsoe was a 5* btw.

 

[JJBlue06]

They're new to the recruiting game. It's kind of like culture shock to them. Give them time.

 

[kentucky_wildcat_#1]

You have to understand that they are not Ky fans and are not used to recruiting more than 1 five star player a year. I'm thinking they don't follow recruiting as closely as we do so once they are on the verge of bringing in a great class, they might not know we and Duke do this every single year. Now that they might get a great class, I'd advise them to do a lil research and understand Cal brings in classes better than their potential class every single year he's been here. I'll give them a pass since they are newbies to being at the top of the recruiting world.

 

[musrat59]

They will never top the fab five that Michigan had back in the nineties.

 

[SpartyRBS]

They will never top the fab five that Michigan had back in the nineties.

Best lineup you can get for a cool $500k.

 

[connsparty]

They will never top the fab five that Michigan had back in the nineties.

Thank goodness. The Fraud 5 was the best group that money could buy, never won jack, and set UM basketball back 20 years.

 

[jarms24]

Didn't UK's class from a couple years ago have a better RSCI ranking than the fab five?

 

[MIKEBOV]

Most I have seen think it would be MSUs class. Obviously wouldn't be ranked as high as a few recent UK classes.

 

[TUL]

People get excited.

 

[CarolinaCat11]

Most I have seen think it would be MSUs class. Obviously wouldn't be ranked as high as a few recent UK classes.

I suppose there's a chance. But.. it's September. There's a long way to do. Duke, UK and NC State are expected to have strong classes as well. In the end.. as we've seen at UK.. it's all about cutting down the nets in April.

 

[kurtis14]

Reading comprehension is needed. The talk was about it being the best MSU class ever, not the best college basketball class ever. Big difference. But, carry on.

 

[go white]

You have one trolling MSU fan jabbing at you. I think the other 99.99999% of our fan base realizes that even if we do land Bridges (good chance because of MSU ties and Flint ties..) and Jackson (slight chance) it would give us OUR best class ever.

We all realize the classes that Kentucky has been rolling out year after year since Cal arrived.

 

[kurtis14]

And when I reference the need for reading comprehension, it goes for several people. First, this "Server" guy got that topic (the topic of ranking classes) off on the wrong foot by not understanding how the greatest class was being discussed...it was for MSU, not all of college basketball.

Second, it's a little surprising so many self-proclaimed experts in recruiting on this board took that one Spartan fan as a representative of all of us without doing any fact checking. Notice he was the only one trumpeting that position in a thread with over 100 posts?

Any MSU fan (or fan of any other program, Duke included) not hopped up on coke would realize that some of Cal's previous recruiting classes are untouchable. Say what you want about MSU fans or our program, but please give us a little more credit than to go off the GD deep end about that topic when only one dude was taking that position.

 

[connsparty]

That would be 3 x 5* and 2-3 x 4*.

Calipari has at least FIVE classes better in the last 6 years:

2009 3 x 5*, including the #2 in Wall and #3 player in Cousins, #19 Orton, 2 x 4* including a vastly underrated Bledsoe

2010 4 x 5* (Knight, Kanter, Jones, Lamb) 4* Poole and 4* Vargas

2011 4 x 5* including #2 Davis, #3 MKG, #7 Teague, #19 Wiltjer

2013 6 x 5* including #2, #5, #6, #9, #9, #18 + Kentucky POY

2014 4 x 5*

2016 Monk, Fox, Simmons, Killeya-Jones, others

That doesn't even count the Fab 5 of Michigan, UNC's 3 or 4 classes, Dukes 3-5 great classes, UCLA's, etc.

If MSU gets those guys they will be #3 behind UK and Duke...and maybe NC State.

Darryl

Show us Spartan fans which dumb arse claimed the greatest recruiting class ever?? We don't even have an official visit set up with Jackson, Bridges is 50-50 and we are going up against Coach Cal. I'm happy with our class now anything else is icing on the cake.

 

[villefan76]

If Michigan State if fact does land Bridges, they may average at least 60-62 points a game. In all seriousness, what kid wants to play in a system like that?

 

[jarms24]

^ there ya go. I guess you can say "one of the best" is a pretty subjective description and it may be right assuming "one of" includes 20 or so classes.

BOOM

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

They're new to the recruiting game. It's kind of like culture shock to them. Give them time.

More or less exactly what I was going to say.

 

[kurtis14]

If Michigan State if fact does land Bridges, they may average at least 60-62 points a game. In all seriousness, what kid wants to play in a system like that?

Scoring Per Game Statistics Since 2009-10 (Cal's first year at UK):

Kentucky:
2009-10 - 79.3
2010-11 - 74.9
2011-12 - 77.4
2012-13 - 72.6
2013-14 - 74.8
2014-15 - 74.4
6-Year Average - 75.6

MSU:
2009-10 - 71.8
2010-11 - 68.8
2011-12 - 71.6
2012-13 - 68
2013-14 - 75.5
2014-15 - 71.1
6-Year Average - 71.1

But don't let facts get in the way.

 

[Hoskins21]

Doesn't matter. They won't have anything to show for it other than a Big 10 title.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

Reading comprehension is needed. The talk was about it being the best MSU class ever, not the best college basketball class ever. Big difference. But, carry on.

Uhm not true.

He said "That would be one of the best classes EVER".

That's pretty clearly meaning that he thinks it'd be....one of the best classes ever.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

Scoring Per Game Statistics Since 2009-10 (Cal's first year at UK):

Kentucky:
2009-10 - 79.3
2010-11 - 74.9
2011-12 - 77.4
2012-13 - 72.6
2013-14 - 74.8
2014-15 - 74.4
6-Year Average - 75.6

MSU:
2009-10 - 71.8
2010-11 - 68.8
2011-12 - 71.6
2012-13 - 68
2013-14 - 75.5
2014-15 - 71.1
6-Year Average - 71.1

But don't let facts get in the way.

So 5 of the past 6 seasons, Kentucky has outscored Michigan State??

Great argument there...I'm guessing you weren't on any debate teams in high school

 

[Tampa_cat54]

And how about the fact that in 20 (TWENTY!) seasons at Michigan State, Tom Izzo has had 15 players drafted into the NBA. That's an extraordinary 0.75 players per season.

In only 6 seasons at Kentucky, Cal has had 25 NBA draft selections, good for 4.2 players per year being drafted.

Cal has had 25 players drafted in 6 (SIX) years, Tom Izzo has had 15 players drafted in 20 (TWENTY) seasons.

My goodness.

Cal's getting played drafted at a rate that's almost 5.5 (FIVE AND A HALF) times that of Tom Izzo.

 

[kurtis14]

So 5 of the past 6 seasons, Kentucky has outscored Michigan State??

Great argument there...I'm guessing you weren't on any debate teams in high school

Not the point, chief. Once again, reading comprehension. Your guy claims MSU averages 60-62 points per game, while my post was refuting that while also showing that the overall difference in scoring between the two programs isn't much (4 points per game). But I wouldn't expect you to put that together.

 

[kurtis14]

And how about the fact that in 20 (TWENTY!) seasons at Michigan State, Tom Izzo has had 15 players drafted into the NBA. That's an extraordinary 0.75 players per season.

In only 6 seasons at Kentucky, Cal has had 25 NBA draft selections, good for 4.2 players per year being drafted.

Cal has had 25 players drafted in 6 (SIX) years, Tom Izzo has had 15 players drafted in 20 (TWENTY) seasons.

My goodness.

Cal's getting played drafted at a rate that's almost 5.5 (FIVE AND A HALF) times that of Tom Izzo.

What about it? Who has claimed Cal doesn't put guys in the NBA? I haven't, and I've read every post in this thread and don't recall seeing it. So again, what's your point?

 

[kurtis14]

Uhm not true.

He said "That would be one of the best classes EVER".

That's pretty clearly meaning that he thinks it'd be....one of the best classes ever.

Actually, it is true, brah. Your own Kentucky radio host said the following:

"If forced to predict as of today, I would bet on Izzo getting the commitment (and finishing up maybe his best class ever).”

Had "Server" actually comprehended what he was reading, he wouldn't have spouted off that "sources" are claiming this could be the best class of all time. He didn't comprehend what he read from the "sources" he was citing. Again, carry on.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/...ost-miles-bridges-likely-headed-msu/72610840/

 

[Tampa_cat54]

Not the point, chief. Once again, reading comprehension. Your guy claims MSU averages 60-62 points per game, while my post was refuting that while also showing that the overall difference in scoring between the two programs isn't much (4 points per game). But I wouldn't expect you to put that together.

Hyperbole, chief.

His point was that MSU plays a slower and more boring brand of basketball and score fewer points.

Which you supported with your stats.

Chief.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

Actually, it is true, brah. Your own Kentucky radio host said the following:

"If forced to predict as of today, I would bet on Izzo getting the commitment (and finishing up maybe his best class ever).”

Had "Server" actually comprehended what he was reading, he wouldn't have spouted off that "sources" are claiming this could be the best class of all time. He didn't comprehend what he read from the "sources" he was citing. Again, carry on.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/...ost-miles-bridges-likely-headed-msu/72610840/

I didn't mention our own radio host.

This thread is about what Server said, which he said would be one of the best classes ever.

Brah.

 

[Tampa_cat54]

What about it? Who has claimed Cal doesn't put guys in the NBA? I haven't, and I've read every post in this thread and don't recall seeing it. So again, what's your point?

My point is that Cal is better than Izzo. It's that simple.

Not really that difficult of a point to grasp.

Champ.

 

[DickintheHam]

That would be 3 x 5* and 2-3 x 4*.

Calipari has at least FIVE classes better in the last 6 years:

2009 3 x 5*, including the #2 in Wall and #3 player in Cousins, #19 Orton, 2 x 4* including a vastly underrated Bledsoe

2010 4 x 5* (Knight, Kanter, Jones, Lamb) 4* Poole and 4* Vargas

2011 4 x 5* including #2 Davis, #3 MKG, #7 Teague, #19 Wiltjer

2013 6 x 5* including #2, #5, #6, #9, #9, #18 + Kentucky POY

2014 4 x 5*

2016 Monk, Fox, Simmons, Killeya-Jones, others

That doesn't even count the Fab 5 of Michigan, UNC's 3 or 4 classes, Dukes 3-5 great classes, UCLA's, etc.

If MSU gets those guys they will be #3 behind UK and Duke...and maybe NC State.

Darryl

They're excited, as they should be. Doesn't bother me. I like Izzo, and wish him well.
Whatever.

We are who we are, and I wallow in that, which is where everyone else wants to be.

 

[kurtis14]

My point is that Cal is better than Izzo. It's that simple.

Not really that difficult of a point to grasp.

Champ.

Better at what? Recruiting and landing kids that would be lottery picks if there wasn't a OAD rule? Sure he is. But does he really deserve all the credit for getting them to the NBA when they'd be there anyway? No doubt Cal helps them improve while on campus, but the thought that he's "putting them in the NBA" is a joke, to be honest. Name a kid who he put in the NBA that wouldn't have been there without the OAD rule in place.

 

[kurtis14]

I didn't mention our own radio host.

This thread is about what Server said, which he said would be one of the best classes ever.

Brah.

Right, and Server got his point of view from "sources" (his words, not mine). My point is he didn't accurately interpret/comprehend/understand what the sources actually said. Had Server stated that as his own opinion, then that's different. But he clearly said earlier in this thread that other sources were saying best class of all time. Clearly that isn't true.

 

[dlh331]

Better at what? Recruiting and landing kids that would be lottery picks if there wasn't a OAD rule? Sure he is. But does he really deserve all the credit for getting them to the NBA when they'd be there anyway? No doubt Cal helps them improve while on campus, but the thought that he's "putting them in the NBA" is a joke, to be honest. Name a kid who he put in the NBA that wouldn't have been there without the OAD rule in place.

Bledsoe
Orton
Teague
Goodwin
Booker

Darryl

 

[kurtis14]

Hyperbole, chief.

His point was that MSU plays a slower and more boring brand of basketball and score fewer points.

Which you supported with your stats.

Chief.

Ah yes, because MSU's point per game are an indicator of only THEIR style...the style of their opponents doesn't factor in, does it? How about teams that milk the shot clock every possession? Does that factor in? Northwestern? Nebraska? Michigan? Wisconsin? Hell, your squad averaged over 74 points per game last year, but only scored 64 against the mighty Badgers. How does that feel? Drive home my point yet? Or, did you leave your exciting "style" in Lexington that day?

If you watched games, you might realize that MSU's "style" isn't to sit on the rock running sets all game. Quite the opposite, actually.

 

[MSU129]

Before someone gets confused the MSU in my name is Murray State. I have nothing bad to say about Mich St though. I met a couple of really nice fans last year at the UK/KU & Duke/MSU game. I think it was the 2nd half where I was getting a little too much beer in me and spilled mine all over the MSU fans right in front of me, and they were cool about it. So in my book they are pretty good people.

 

[kurtis14]

Bledsoe
Orton
Teague
Goodwin
Booker

Darryl

Bledsoe was a 5 star kid, ranked #23 in the nation and #3 at his position. Not buying it.
Orton was a 5 star kid (6'10 at that), ranked #22 in the nation and #4 at his position. Not buying it.
Teague was a 5 star kid, ranked #5 in the nation and #1 at his position. Are you kidding me?
Goodwin was a 5 star kid, ranked #14 in the nation and #5 at his position. Nope.
Booker I'll give you.

Seriously? Of the 25 draft picks under Cal (or whatever it is), how many were OAD? 20? If only Booker can be claimed as one Cal helped get over the top, then it proves my point that these kids would've got to the league anyway. So does he deserve the credit for putting them there? No. Argue that he makes them better, sure. But not that he's putting kids in the league.