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The state of Kentucky does not have enough talent as a whole to allow guys like Harris to slip out of state. This one hurts really bad.
I have no issue faulting him.
How you grow up being a Michigan fan, decommitting, having Home State U and your favorite teams biggest rival as your top suitors, then commit to Alabama who just got thumped by one of your final 3s 3rd string quarterback. All the while eating up all the support from Home State U. Geesh. What a mistake this dude just made.
Why the anger toward Harris? We all knew it was more likely that he would pick Bama. Remember that we weren't even in the running before Stoops made the hard push. I personally hope he has a fantastic career and inspires other KY kids to work harder in football. They can't all go to Alabama.
On a side note, Bama is putting together a MONSTER class. Almost epic.
On a side note, Bama is putting together a MONSTER class. Almost epic.
Because at the end of the day it's a business decision, not a heart decision. Kid is in line for millions and Bama backs have the best draft track record, better than Ohio State and Kentucky. And all kids eat up the attention, they're kids. Hell I'm 33 and would eat up the attention.
Been a fan since '58 and this is more of the sad reality that Kentucky will never be a power in the SEC. We just cannot lose these once in a lifetime players to out of state schools. I really hoped we could keep this kid, as my time is running out.
This can't really be THAT unexpected. I mean, the end of last season for us was an absolute dumpster fire. He may not get to play until his junior year at Bama, but this coaching staff may not be able to put together an SEC caliber o-line for him either.
It sucks for the program and hurts like hell that he bolted, but at Bama they have the personnel to punch his nfl ticket if he avoids injury and gets a shot. The flip side is that he will probably never be 1A on the depth chart there and will be splitting carries at least 3 ways.
It sucks for the program and hurts like hell that he bolted, but at Bama they have the personnel to punch his nfl ticket if he avoids injury and gets a shot. The flip side is that he will probably never be 1A on the depth chart there and will be splitting carries at least 3 ways.
I don't see it as anger, or at least I don't feel anger. He is just the enemy now. It doesn't matter to me if he lives in this state or not, he is no longer one of us. He is the enemy. I feel the same way about him that I feel about any other player on any team we play against. He should expect that. He should not expect to commit to another school and have us act like we are happy for him. Our reaction should be that he is now just like any other player who plays against us. Why would we treat him any differently. Any success he has now does not reflect positively on us in any way. It only benefits Alabama. It was his decision and he made it. He shouldn't expect to be treated like he did a great thing.
Dude, UK has had 2 parade All Americans in my lifetime, Tim Couch and Dennis Johnson, one was #1 overall pick and the other was a 3rd round pick. If you're a number 1 over all back, your gonna be a NFL draftee no matter where you go if youre good. UK doesn't put a lot of guys in the draft, not because UK is holding them back, but because guys like Harris commit to Alabama.
Business decision crap is nonsense. If it's because he wanted to compete for a chance to have championships, I can get on board with that I guess.
Frankly, he chose to be a piece of a legacy istead of building his own. If that's what he wants so be it.
This post was edited on 1/9 1:51 PM by UKwannabe
Personally, I think Stoops has worked a minor recruiting miracle since coming to UK.
We're a little over a year removed from being a Div. II program talent-wise. A little over a year removed from losing at home to Vandy by 40. We will get the talent to compete. Maybe not ever be a Alabama or LSU but, taking South Carolina's place wouldn't be a bad thing.
You may be an NFL draftee but your chances at being a high draftee improve at Bama versus Kentucky. It's the same as the Kentucky basketball effect. Rich get richer, perception rules all. And "if you're good" helps when you have Bama's offensive line to run behind. Ask Trent Richardson, who's useless in the league. Ask Mark Inghram who's pretty good but doesn't look like the monster he was at Bama. It IS a business decision.
you're 100% correct on being a cog in the machine versus his own legacy, though. 100% that's what he has chosen to be.
UK basketball is a horrible example.
UK basketball is putting guys in the league at a ridiculous rate, FAR superior to any other college basketball team.
Bama on the other hand, isnt. Southern California has more guys in the league and has been marginally better than average since Reggie Bush left. Is there a stigma that USC players get a "USC" effect? No, they just have the highest rated star average of any team the past 5 years despite probation.
Boom WillIams just AVERAGED 6 yards a carry behind UK so called "poor" line. And he barely sniffed the field against the 4 patsy's on UKS schedule. Great players make great plays, regardless.
This post was edited on 1/9 2:15 PM by UKwannabe
This post was edited on 1/9 2:16 PM by UKwannabe
I don't blame him for picking Alabama but I do blame him for knowing that he was going to Alabama for nearly 45 days and leading everyone on, getting attention and free perks and hurting our chances to find a replacement. I most certainly blame him for that. Once he knew he had made his choice, he should have at least told Stoops.
Folks...
- Alabama is competing for SEC and national titles
- Nick Saban is one of the best developers of talent and coaches in the game
- Running backs that go to Bama usually end up winning awards and go pro...
So what if he has to wait a bit...or share some PT...football is a team sport...You think he wouldn't have to share the ball in the "Air Raid" with other backs and especially receivers?
At no time do I ever believe UK was a serious contender...UK was on the list because we're the home state school, a nice little gesture, essentially a head nod acknowledging us...had he been from Indiana or Tennessee...we wouldn't have been in the conversation...
Just a real take on the situation...as I see it...the #1 running back went to Alabama, and the sun came up in the east this morning...
- Alabama is competing for SEC and national titles
- Nick Saban is one of the best developers of talent and coaches in the game
- Running backs that go to Bama usually end up winning awards and go pro...
So what if he has to wait a bit...or share some PT...football is a team sport...You think he wouldn't have to share the ball in the "Air Raid" with other backs and especially receivers?
At no time do I ever believe UK was a serious contender...UK was on the list because we're the home state school, a nice little gesture, essentially a head nod acknowledging us...had he been from Indiana or Tennessee...we wouldn't have been in the conversation...
Just a real take on the situation...as I see it...the #1 running back went to Alabama, and the sun came up in the east this morning...
Whatever, as far as im concerned he is no longer a fellow kentuckian. the way i see it he just spit in the face of his friends, family his home state and every single one of us kentucky fans, I would be embarrassed as a father if my kid did this, in this manner, and to drag his whole school in the gym, just to spite them. rant done i need a drink!!!!
LOL. Saban "develops" running backs, when you are a five star someone has already developed you, whether it was in your genes or whatever, and if you are a five star you should make the NFL regardless of where you go to school AND regardless of your position. Instead of just looking at all the highly rated RBs they have sent to the NFL you should probably also look at an even longer list of highly rated RBs that went there and didn't make it.
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Blah. I can fault him plenty. I'm a Kentuckian. I bleed blue. Anyone else that has grown up in this state and doesn't bleed just as blue is nothing more than a traitor as far as I'm concerned.
The actions of Harris has HURT our program. Just in order to keep getting attention, he makes it seem like we are legitimately in the race right up until the last minute. He toyed with the emotions of UK fans. He played us. And he played the coaching staff, preventing us from getting an earlier start in finding a replacement.
Screw Harris. He is now nothing more than enemy. He doesn't deserve one further ounce of attention or respect from the people of Kentucky. Let him get all of his attention from the Alabama family he chose over us. He is now dead to me. I don't care if he has a good career. I honestly don't care if he gets buried on the depth chart and never plays in a single game at Bama and has to ultimately transfer to a much lesser school just to get some playing time to try to salvage an NFL career. This guy obviously doesn't give a damn about us or our feelings. Why should we care for his?
The actions of Harris has HURT our program. Just in order to keep getting attention, he makes it seem like we are legitimately in the race right up until the last minute. He toyed with the emotions of UK fans. He played us. And he played the coaching staff, preventing us from getting an earlier start in finding a replacement.
Screw Harris. He is now nothing more than enemy. He doesn't deserve one further ounce of attention or respect from the people of Kentucky. Let him get all of his attention from the Alabama family he chose over us. He is now dead to me. I don't care if he has a good career. I honestly don't care if he gets buried on the depth chart and never plays in a single game at Bama and has to ultimately transfer to a much lesser school just to get some playing time to try to salvage an NFL career. This guy obviously doesn't give a damn about us or our feelings. Why should we care for his?
My issue with Harris is simple. You played UK. Plain and simple. You knew in October and yet you played Coach Stoops. You knew how important you were to him and the program yet you played him.
Coach could have blown the doors off going out and recruiting another running back. You knew that but you instead decided intentionally to hurt him, the school, the people of Kentucky.Originally posted by ccarroll85:
Alot of Butt-Hurt Anal retentive people here who have no life outside of a Collegiate sport. Nice thing is there are more rationale types who see this for what it really is... A 17 - 18 year old kid has enjoyed himself getting some nice perks and traveling around being catered too by coaches and programs trying to woo him. Any kid would take their time during this process and soak it in. He's allowed to be greedy.
You even set an announcement date and then to play Coach Stoops you decided to put if off for a month so you could get some more spotlight.
You decided to have this huge "Official Visit" the weekend we played NC on a national TV game. You soaked all that up and also played the kids like Elam who had invested himself in you as well.
As to how you will do at AL it will be what it will be but one thing Harris, you wont live down the dirty trick you pulled on Mark Stoops.
So am I all blown up over an immature 18 year old? No not so much, but I do feel sorry for Coach Stoops as he thought mistakenly that you were an upstanding kid. Just shows you that you can be wrong I guess.
Coach could have blown the doors off going out and recruiting another running back. You knew that but you instead decided intentionally to hurt him, the school, the people of Kentucky.Originally posted by ccarroll85:
Alot of Butt-Hurt Anal retentive people here who have no life outside of a Collegiate sport. Nice thing is there are more rationale types who see this for what it really is... A 17 - 18 year old kid has enjoyed himself getting some nice perks and traveling around being catered too by coaches and programs trying to woo him. Any kid would take their time during this process and soak it in. He's allowed to be greedy.
You even set an announcement date and then to play Coach Stoops you decided to put if off for a month so you could get some more spotlight.
You decided to have this huge "Official Visit" the weekend we played NC on a national TV game. You soaked all that up and also played the kids like Elam who had invested himself in you as well.
As to how you will do at AL it will be what it will be but one thing Harris, you wont live down the dirty trick you pulled on Mark Stoops.
So am I all blown up over an immature 18 year old? No not so much, but I do feel sorry for Coach Stoops as he thought mistakenly that you were an upstanding kid. Just shows you that you can be wrong I guess.
I blame MB as much as I do anyone else. The joker hire sit us back 5 years. You have the best RB in the nation 30 minutes away, yet we can't field a good enough football team to bring in the recruit. We were treading water and not at all competitive against LSU, Georgia, and TN to finish out our season. We get Harris at UK if we have an 8-3 football team on the field in 2014.
That is no blame at all to Stoops, and he probably pulls it out if we were in year five of his tenure and he has a successful team. Like it or not we are still a long way away from being a good program and there was/is no guarantee that we get there. I'm sure the other schools used that against us. Although Stoops has recruited great, we are still near the bottom of the SEC and have not yet proven that we can compete in the near future. I think we will, but Harris had two schools that didn't have that issue. He has a great chance to win a title down there and will be a champion for life and no one can take that away.
That is no blame at all to Stoops, and he probably pulls it out if we were in year five of his tenure and he has a successful team. Like it or not we are still a long way away from being a good program and there was/is no guarantee that we get there. I'm sure the other schools used that against us. Although Stoops has recruited great, we are still near the bottom of the SEC and have not yet proven that we can compete in the near future. I think we will, but Harris had two schools that didn't have that issue. He has a great chance to win a title down there and will be a champion for life and no one can take that away.
Alabama does not even care, take a number and take a seat Mr Harris, Mr Harris is your name, right? He could have become legend just for saying Kentucky, now he's just another maroon helmet with white number, that's probably what he wanted. And while it's a bit humiliating, it shouldn't be but it is, let's hope this makes the team tighter.
this is the logic I don't get..
"Take a number and take a seat..."
Eddie Lacey took a seat behind Ingram and Richardson...guess where he is right now...Green Bay Packers, in the playoffs...
I'll gladly wait for my shot at making highlight reels, wining SEC titles, having southern bells throw themselves at me, and being in the playoffs...I think I would also pass on a being a legend at a program that may get to the Belk Bowl by the time I'm a senior if I'm lucky...
So what if he sits the bench for 3 years...if he does and has even a moderately productive SR campaign he'll go pro...
What legend could he have become at UK, in a pass happy offense with a new pass happy OC...perhaps even more pass happy than the last one...
Our leading rusher had 486 yards this year...jesus...some backs get that in a 3-4 game span...our QB had the most rushing TDs...
Over on the Rafters...stocking up on the best talent, players not afraid of sharing PT and glory, not being a star, sacrificing some stats, etc are all very good things...
Nothing happened today that is shocking or upsetting...the best football program in the country got the best RB...
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