Adam Silver, wanting too ratify maybe the one and done!?

[poppycat]

Player's Union is one pushing for players to go straight from high school to pros. Silver is saying he is reconsidering the league's position.

I've negotiated from both sides of the table..(member and later mgr)
Union is bluffing....Are they really saying, "give us more teens to take our jobs" or positioning with a bargaining chip. Management should just say we give you that now "this is what we want in return."

 

[blubo]

I've negotiated from both sides of the table..(member and later mgr)
Union is bluffing....Are they really saying, "give us more teens to take our jobs" or positioning with a bargaining chip. Management should just say we give you that now "this is what we want in return."

I think it's called collective bargaining.

 

[poppycat]

I think it's called collective bargaining.

As a Teamster in the 60's and negotiating for management in the 80's, I never knew or heard a member say "I'm all for giving my job to a younger person and I will just be unemployed sooner"....it's posturing.

 

[blubo]

As a Teamster in the 60's and negotiating for management in the 80's, I never knew or heard a member say "I'm all for giving my job to a younger person and I will just be unemployed sooner"....it's posturing.

Seniority is the only job security the hourly worker has got.

 

[poppycat]

Seniority is the only job security the hourly worker has got.

And a NBA player has none........once his contract expires and a teenage
takes his job for less money. I just can't believe that the players want an
extra 15/20 new players replacing older players a year early.
Of course the draft number would be the same, but have a bigger and
better pool of try out hopefuls.

 

[bballcat4]

And a NBA player has none........once his contract expires and a teenage
takes his job for less money. I just can't believe that the players want an
extra 15/20 new players replacing older players a year early.
Of course the draft number would be the same, but have a bigger and
better pool of try out hopefuls.

Doesn't make good business sense to me. Here's a quote from a recent article.

It's possible that the NBA union is making noise about the age limit so as to gain concessions in other areas but I doubt it. NBA players have been agitating for this change for a while. If they continue to do so it makes them the most principled parties in this age limit charade.
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I'm sure there's some legal chess playing going on. Looks to me that Silver is tired of NBA getting blamed for all the OAD backlash. NBA owners will make a public push to remove the OAD, forcing Player's Union to go public with their sudden change of heart. One of two things will happen. 1) Player's Union will stick to their stated principle, thus forcing NBA into difficult decision about drafting, or 2) Player's Union is blowing smoke. Blame for OAD gets passed to them if they reverse their position.

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[LeonThe Camel]

It's a tough issue in my mind.

I doubt NBA teams want to pay scouts to visit a hundred high schools and the kids being approached by agents while in HS.
I'm sure the collegiate coaches don't want to recruit and possibly miss on kids that may or may not play cbb.

On the other hand, by making kids go two years to college (and still not get a degree) it could easily push many overseas.. hurting the overall mktg/branding of the collegiate-to-pros bump.

One and done, even with its warts, is probably better than the alternatives.

Scouts already attend high school games. They have watched the best players since early high school.

 

[LeonThe Camel]

Like the thought, but it doesn't solve the problem. Kids won't sign...but will just wait until NBA Draft deadline day to decide between jumping or choosing a school.

They will sign grant in aid forms rather than LOIs.

 

[LeonThe Camel]

fast paste
pre-Madonna
and our latest entry.....
sighted the fact

Forgot
could care less

 

[LeonThe Camel]

For the millionth time: the ncaa holds ALL the cards. All they have to do is allow a kid to retain eligibility until he signs a contract with a team..not an agent. If he doesn't get the draft slot he wants; if he doesn't get the contract he wants, he can come back and play for his college team.
That's exactly the thing to do IF the ncaa is really interested in the welfare of the kids.

It wouldn't take a month for the nba to see the nightmares this would cause. They'd quickly come up with a plan that the ncaa could endorse.

Let's take that and improve it one bit.
All kids are eligible for the draft, high school and college. However if you get drafted AND want to return to college, you 1 year.
It requires the players to be serious about their decision, all decisions have consequences.

 

[Wildcatsworld]

I did google it, and all that I see is that the tournament had higher ratings than last year so maybe you can point me in the right direction instead of "google it"

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2017/04/24/Media/NBA-ratings.aspx?

There you go chief, the Sports Business Journal.

 

[UKCats24]

As a Teamster in the 60's and negotiating for management in the 80's, I never knew or heard a member say "I'm all for giving my job to a younger person and I will just be unemployed sooner"....it's posturing.

This has always been my question. Why does the player's association prefer no age limit? Can anyone make a logical argument besides using it as a bargaining chip?

 

[Friedas_Boss]

It's a tough issue in my mind.

I doubt NBA teams want to pay scouts to visit a hundred high schools and the kids being approached by agents while in HS.
I'm sure the collegiate coaches don't want to recruit and possibly miss on kids that may or may not play cbb.

On the other hand, by making kids go two years to college (and still not get a degree) it could easily push many overseas.. hurting the overall mktg/branding of the collegiate-to-pros bump.

One and done, even with its warts, is probably better than the alternatives.

This is one of the worst takes I've ever seen.

One and done is good for nobody but the NBA. Everybody else suffers, the kids, their families, and colleges all get hurt by this rule but mostly the kids.

Hopefully, the NBA does the right thing and makes the rule similar to baseball where a kid either goes pro after high school, or has to stay in college 3 years to work on that diploma.