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A. Torres 1st of many Cal apologies coming soon …Where are yours CBS ? Field of 68 ? Matt Jones lol

He is now …even without the new guys it wasn’t a program in disarray …I’ve seen many links saying NIL was never a problem here …we weren’t gonna win a ship with all the freshman but how many schools would kill to have that many elite guys …yeah the word disarray is totally wrong

Disarray is totally right. Get over it. If you wanna pump Cal up, that's fine. Hope he tears it up this year.
 
The first 7 they have is really good they need one more big and they have everything you need
We have no legit post presence. Having 7 really good players is great but you can’t have holes. This is Cals Achilles he cannot create a complete roster. For 2 years no pg. other years no shooters, other years missing big man. This was tubbys undoing. Cal brings in better talent but tubby was better at developing and getting most out his teams
 
What did Matt Jones say that was inaccurate? He reiterated what those close to the program knew for a fact.
Truth is, NIL was an issue in the locker room. The only dude that got what he was promised, was Oscar, the rest got much less than what they were told they would get.

Then there was the Wheeler saga, do we even need to discuss that? That guy was not a UK caliber pg, but Cal started him 2 years in a row, then realized SW was killing the team deep into year 2, made a change and SW pouted.

Livingston, Reeves and Oscar, to a point, held UK hostage while they went through their NBA processes and Cal fell for it, he didn't play the portal to his advantage at all. He missed out.

But then, Huggins gets fired and Cal gets a pre wrapped gift. Was CBS and MJ supposed to predict Mitchell was even going to be an option?

Matt wasn't wrong.
If Ryan Lemonds burner account here hasn't been identified.... I think he might be @kyjeff1
 
We have no legit post presence. Having 7 really good players is great but you can’t have holes. This is Cals Achilles he cannot create a complete roster. For 2 years no pg. other years no shooters, other years missing big man. This was tubbys undoing. Cal brings in better talent but tubby was better at developing and getting most out his teams
A post player would be nice but it would be cool to see a small ball lineup or a 5 out offense
 
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We got very very very lucky Huggins made a very very stupid choice. Nothing more. Nothing less.

If Huggins doesn't get a DUI, and Reeves has credits to transfer.? We are in misery right now.

So, I guess for once, we caught a break.

Now, can Cal capitalize on getting Mitchell and getting Reeves back? I'm not holding my breath.
If that didn't happen though something else would of . Cal deserves TONS OF criticism but he doesn't nor has he ever in my book deserved it for the rosters he builds. Especially this season. Best recruiting class In UK history IMO when we add Cyril and u take into account Mitchell. With Mitchell and Reeves we have experience.


The Question is can Cal get out of his own way and let the guys do thier thing. If he can we are a final 4 team. I thought up until Covid Cal was a top 3 coach in CBB going back to his early UMASS days. Covid hit and its like he forgot how to coach. Hopefully he remembers as even that lst team with Maxey , EJ Quickley ect had a great shot at a title if not for Covid hitting.
 
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You put Michael Jordan and Larry Bird on a team coached by Calipari and I'll put my money on the field.
AGAIN...his offense is archaic and easily defeated. His in-game decisions and substitution patterns are borderline bizarre and just how many timeouts does he have collecting dust in his basement?
It just doesn't matter who is on the roster. At the end of the day Calipari is still the coach and that is all you need to know.
 
I'm very torn on this lately. I don't know if it's as bad as people make it out to be, and I also think there are some external factors not working in Cal's favor (injuries, for one).. but I also really don't like what I've seen from him the last few years, with very questionable roster/staff choices, in-game coaching, not prioritizing winning.

Here's the thing, while I really like what he did with this roster to date.. he now has no reason not to be a top10 team all season and get an Elite 8. Not when you have the #1 class by a large margin. He has his John Wall-type class, WITH some experience returning. 10 years ago, Cal gets a Final4 out of this team. No excuses. This is really his last chance IMO.

Edit: And no, that's not me. I've always really liked Cal. I liked the way he did a lot of things, maybe even most things. So I'm pulling for him.
Yup, all these guys that are defending Cal here by saying he did a great job building the roster, will be here in January talking about how the players were all overrated and Cal is handcuffed. It’s never Cal's fault.

I'll say this, if he doesn't win with this roster, then there are no more excuses, he’s had every other style of roster the last 5 years and has failed, this is the roster everyone has been waiting for.

Me personally, I don't think he has enough to win anything of merit. He plays too many favorites, he doesn't have enough shooting, he doesn't have a legit 5 (for his style of play) his offense doesn't work, there are too many injuries every year and turmoil seems to be a common issue in the locker room these days.

I would love it if he proved me wrong though.
 
He is now …even without the new guys it wasn’t a program in disarray …I’ve seen many links saying NIL was never a problem here …we weren’t gonna win a ship with all the freshman but how many schools would kill to have that many elite guys …yeah the word disarray is totally wrong
You've seen many links that shows NIL wasn't an issue here? Post them, I'm dying to see what it is you saw.

If you don’t see a program in disarray when you look at UK the last 3 years, then you’re as blind as a bat.
 
Never said that …you’re just trying to be argumentative …facts are facts …Cal might just make one more run …get on board
No, I'm not arguing, I'm giving you chances to prove your points, whatever they are.
 
If that didn't happen though something else would of . Cal deserves TONS OF criticism but he doesn't nor has he ever in my book deserved it for the rosters he builds. Especially this season. Best recruiting class In UK history IMO when we add Cyril and u take into account Mitchell. With Mitchell and Reeves we have experience.


The Question is can Cal get out of his own way and let the guys do thier thing. If he can we are a final 4 team. I thought up until Covid Cal was a top 3 coach in CBB going back to his early UMASS days. Covid hit and its like he forgot how to coach. Hopefully he remembers as even that lst team with Maxey , EJ Quickley ect had a great shot at a title if not for Covid hitting.
I do think Cal should be criticized for a few roster decisions actually.

Wheeler (twice) was never UK caliber, Askew, was not even Louisville caliber, Hagans (2 years), not UK caliber, Shaedon Sharpe needs no introduction here, Ryan Harrow never should have been offered a scholarship here.

Cal has rolled the dice on too many guys at the most important position on the roster way too many times for me to say he gets an A+ for roster construction.
 
kyjeff1 …lately Cal has sucked …nobody debating that …but he’s rebounded with recent additions to our roster and hopefully more …pretty sure you understand the thread …some national media burying Cal and the program at the same time .

Are you pulling for Cal ? Are you pulling for UK ? Do you want them to succeed ?
 
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Agree it's looking up now, LOD was a little premature.

If we get beat in the first weekend again does it even matter?
 
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kyjeff1 …lately Cal has sucked …nobody debating that …but he’s rebounded with recent additions to our roster and hopefully more …pretty sure you understand the thread …some national media burying Cal and the program at the same time .

Are you pulling for Cal ? Are you pulling for UK ? Do you want them to succeed ?
Is this your first year as a UK fan?

Cal gets good players every year, but eventually people (me and many others) are tired of falling for the hype, then watch as Lucy pulls the football away each time.

What you're seeing is media members that feel the same way. Every year they put UK in their pre season top 5 and every year Calipari shits his pants. Talent has never been the issue, just look at the NBA man, it's loaded with, UK/Cal players.

My question to you is, how long are you going to fall for the hype? When are you going to stop and say "prove it"? That's where I've been for many years now, I want Cal to prove that he cares more about UK than individual player accomplishments and goals.
 
What did Matt Jones say that was inaccurate? He reiterated what those close to the program knew for a fact.
Truth is, NIL was an issue in the locker room. The only dude that got what he was promised, was Oscar, the rest got much less than what they were told they would get.

Then there was the Wheeler saga, do we even need to discuss that? That guy was not a UK caliber pg, but Cal started him 2 years in a row, then realized SW was killing the team deep into year 2, made a change and SW pouted.

Livingston, Reeves and Oscar, to a point, held UK hostage while they went through their NBA processes and Cal fell for it, he didn't play the portal to his advantage at all. He missed out.

But then, Huggins gets fired and Cal gets a pre wrapped gift. Was CBS and MJ supposed to predict Mitchell was even going to be an option?

Matt wasn't wrong.
that is not the truth
either someone gave you false info or you made it up to make yourself feel important
 
that is not the truth
either someone gave you false info or you made it up to make yourself feel important
So Matt just made it up and announced it on his show? Oh that's right, you know more than everyone else, I forgot about that. Eyeroll.
 
Cal knew Bob Huggins was gonna get a DUI and get fired. If you ask me, we should give him a raise for that forethought. Just my opinion.
Cal obviously went to a fortune teller who told him his buddy Huggy Bear was going to get a DUI and have to resign. And that a WVU would be transferring to UK. Amazing how that worked out.
 
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Is this your first year as a UK fan?

Cal gets good players every year, but eventually people (me and many others) are tired of falling for the hype, then watch as Lucy pulls the football away each time.

What you're seeing is media members that feel the same way. Every year they put UK in their pre season top 5 and every year Calipari shits his pants. Talent has never been the issue, just look at the NBA man, it's loaded with, UK/Cal players.

My question to you is, how long are you going to fall for the hype? When are you going to stop and say "prove it"? That's where I've been for many years now, I want Cal to prove that he cares more about UK than individual player accomplishments and goals.
Gotta give it a chance Jeff …we got new life …I’ve started many a negative Cal thread …but when he does something right I start threads too …if we flail again I’ll be right there with you …as I’ve been saying I like the position we’re in …for me it will be fun doing the chasing this year with such a young talented team …something different then having expectations and being ranked top 3 every season
 
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Wake me up when our overpaid man in charge ( I won’t call him a coach) has us competing for an SEC title and makes it to the second weekend of the tournament.
He should be apologizing every time he speaks publicly.
 
The Negative Nancy's and the Debbie Drama Queens rear their ugly heads again...

It's the same posters over and over...

"Misery loves company"
 
Cal has good players every year, but it is what he does with them is the problem, being knocked off in the first and second rounds of the tourney and have not even been to a sweet 16 in years no reason to apologize.
 
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CBS 3 weeks ago said it’s time to panic in Lexington …Kentucky needs an overhaul

Field of 68 …UK is screwed, what are they doing …Cal is stuck in the Stone Age

Matt Jones …program is in total disarray 😂

No matter how it happened it still got done …Cal deserves credit

He deserves credit for pulling out a good roster. He does not deserve credit for how it happened. For example this latest key piece never happens if Huggins behaves himself.
 
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Gotta give it a chance Jeff …we got new life …I’ve started many a negative Cal thread …but when he does something right I start threads too …if we flail again I’ll be right there with you …as I’ve been saying I like the position we’re in …for me it will be fun doing the chasing this year with such a young talented team …something different then having expectations and being ranked top 3 every season
The "gotta give it a chance" mindset was so 2018, I'm way past that. Cal doesn’t get to prioritize the draft and lose at a historic level and.still keep me in the palm of his hand.

You obviously don't know me if you think I don't come on here and pat Cal on the back when he does a good job.
 
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CBS 3 weeks ago said it’s time to panic in Lexington …Kentucky needs an overhaul

Field of 68 …UK is screwed, what are they doing …Cal is stuck in the Stone Age

Matt Jones …program is in total disarray 😂

No matter how it happened it still got done …Cal deserves credit
Absolutely no one owes Cal anything ... much less a damn apology. At this point, that clown should thank the universe everyday that he's allowed to coach at UK.
 
The roster is pretty much set(maybe we add Cyril)We get a taste of what we are in about 2 weeks. The Canadian competition will likely be a bit better than the Bahama competition. I doubt if anyone( including Cal and the staff) has much of an idea what we have or don't have. Probably better than the 9-16 crew but beyond that who knows

I for one look forward to July 12, let's see these guys on the court. Have our 3 holdovers gotten better? Are the frosh ready to be on a big stage as a team?
Who is the big dog in this bunch? Let's get the show on the road.
 
Welch has deep experience at NBA level so I don't see him taking this job to only be Cal's lapdog like the others. I'm confident he will make a huge difference.
 
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Maybe I am missing something, but being way too early #17 isn't going to go over well after the last several years. Not mention we tend to underperform lately.

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That puts us about mid sec. Question: How many programs have started with a preseason ranking as low as #17 and then went on winning the championship? Honest question. I know most come from a preseason top ten ranking.
 
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Has Cal got it together, yes. Is it time to start singing his praises for the rooftops? That remains to be seen. A lot of holes and boxes left to check. Roster has potential but gonna take some time for it to work.
 
I do think Cal should be criticized for a few roster decisions actually.

Wheeler (twice) was never UK caliber, Askew, was not even Louisville caliber, Hagans (2 years), not UK caliber, Shaedon Sharpe needs no introduction here, Ryan Harrow never should have been offered a scholarship here.

Cal has rolled the dice on too many guys at the most important position on the roster way too many times for me to say he gets an A+ for roster construction.
Wheeler ranked in CBS as top 25 in the portal and one f the top pt guards who was in the portal. Higher than UNC's Love.
 
That puts us about mid sec. Question: How many programs have started with a preseason ranking as low as #17 and then went on winning the championship? Honest question. I know most come from a preseason top ten ranking.
Answer …just last year …UCONN won it all and was not even ranked top 25 preseason …I didn’t do any further checking
 
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