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I guess Carl Nathe will teach us how to pronounce his full name. He transferred with Leary from NC State with less fanfare.

Leary spoke of him at some length regarding his talents at the spot:

“Then you’ve got Demi Sumo (Karngbaye) coming in, kind of bringing that versatile attack in the passing game. I think it’s cool to see how they all collaborate with each other and make each other better. They definitely each have their own aspects of the game that are going to help us.”


 
RB by committee which is good but still hoping we have a consistent back that can move the chains. You can’t replace a guy like CRod but hopefully our RB room can collectively keep the chains moving.


Hoping Jefferson or Davis can provide that...although I read a stat (I think yards after contact or something similar) somewhere in the last couple of weeks that showed Davis did not do that well at Vandy.

Regardless, Davis @ 5'10 216 & Jefferson @ 5'10 210 both have good stature to be good at short yardage. Even DSK and La'Vell Wright are both 6'0 210-215 as well, so there are multiple RBs with the size to do it.
 
Yeah i don't think we have a true #1, a bell cow, but a room full of solid #2's

My biggest worry is not having a guy on the roster who can take the handoff at 3rd & goal at the 1 & power up the gut and into the end zone. Might have to settle with being cute inside the 5 at the goal line, fades to Key.
 
Yeah i don't think we have a true #1, a bell cow, but a room full of solid #2's

My biggest worry is not having a guy on the roster who can take the handoff at 3rd & goal at the 1 & power up the gut and into the end zone. Might have to settle with being cute inside the 5 at the goal line, fades to Key.
Davis will get the first opportunity to excel in the early season.
 
My concern with Davis is that his stats at Vandy look really good, but that may be because he was their whole offense and racked up yards because they had nowhere else to turn, sort of like the top scorer in basketball on a bad team.
 
I guess Carl Nathe will teach us how to pronounce his full name. He transferred with Leary from NC State with less fanfare.

Leary spoke of him at some length regarding his talents at the spot:

“Then you’ve got Demi Sumo (Karngbaye) coming in, kind of bringing that versatile attack in the passing game. I think it’s cool to see how they all collaborate with each other and make each other better. They definitely each have their own aspects of the game that are going to help us.”


I think DSK will be sneaky good.
 
My concern with Davis is that his stats at Vandy look really good, but that may be because he was their whole offense and racked up yards because they had nowhere else to turn, sort of like the top scorer in basketball on a bad team.
But wouldn't that mean he was target #1 for every defense to focus on stopping? But SEC D's still couldn't?

Irregardless, UK's O is not all eggs in 1 basket, so many talented skill players we aren't counting on Davis carrying us
 
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Yeah i don't think we have a true #1, a bell cow, but a room full of solid #2's

My biggest worry is not having a guy on the roster who can take the handoff at 3rd & goal at the 1 & power up the gut and into the end zone. Might have to settle with being cute inside the 5 at the goal line, fades to Key.
I think if Jefferson is healthy he'll help greatly on short 3rd down or on the goal line. Go to You Tube and watch the FCS Championship game and watch how hard it was to tackle him. He was a FCS All American, several backs in the NFL in the lower divisions have had great careers. Hopefully we have 5 backs to stay fresh through the game. Davis DSK, McClain, Jefferson, Wright and adding Wilcox, that's a lot of talent.
 
Yeah i don't think we have a true #1, a bell cow, but a room full of solid #2's

My biggest worry is not having a guy on the roster who can take the handoff at 3rd & goal at the 1 & power up the gut and into the end zone. Might have to settle with being cute inside the 5 at the goal line, fades to Key.

I font think that is a bad think in today's game. Of course you want a guy who can get you that yard or 2. But not sure backs want those 25-30 touches a game any longer. Just so many carries in those bodies, don't want to use too many in college.
 
It was good to hear Wright's name mentioned the other day as someone who was doing some good things. I thought he had potential his first year, but since he has not looked like an SEC back. Maybe Coen's return will mean good things for him.
Saw Wright miss some holes last year but think a lot of it was due to getting adjusted to the blocking scheme and holes opening late. It looked like once he was committed to a hole, he was going there; not sure if that was due to field vision or confusion about how things were late developing. Loved the guy as a freshman and think he has a lot of potential, not going to judge him by last year as Scang’s playbook apparently had a lot of people confused imo.

We may not have that one guy but we collectively have a backfield as good if not better than most teams we face.
 
I would love to see Wright have a breakout year. And I am very interested in seeing how Coen is going to use all of these backs. GO CATS!!
 
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I am looking forward to Leary and what our offense could be. Picking up easy yardage with throws to the RB is a staple in the NFL, and something we could never do for whatever reason. I think Leary will have the ability to do that.
 
Hoping Jefferson or Davis can provide that...although I read a stat (I think yards after contact or something similar) somewhere in the last couple of weeks that showed Davis did not do that well at Vandy.

Regardless, Davis @ 5'10 216 & Jefferson @ 5'10 210 both have good stature to be good at short yardage. Even DSK and La'Vell Wright are both 6'0 210-215 as well, so there are multiple RBs with the size to do it.
Not true. I have read that Davis gained 737 yards last year after contact. By the way, the Vandy OL graded out as the worst blocking OL in the SEC last year. Worse than UK.
 
But wouldn't that mean he was target #1 for every defense to focus on stopping? But SEC D's still couldn't?

Irregardless, UK's O is not all eggs in 1 basket, so many talented skill players we aren't counting on Davis carrying us


He ran on South Carolina, UK, and Florida.

The other SEC defenses shut him down.
 

He ran on South Carolina, UK, and Florida.

The other SEC defenses shut him down.
Had over 100 yards and TD against Ole Miss. Bama, Georgia, and Missouri shut him down, and TN limited him. Had big games out of conference. I’d take 4 big SEC games from him, along with out of conference, although I doubt he’ll get 20-30 carries per game here
 
My concern with Davis is that his stats at Vandy look really good, but that may be because he was their whole offense and racked up yards because they had nowhere else to turn, sort of like the top scorer in basketball on a bad team.

A legitimate question, but then you also have to consider that if you play on a team with a poor passing game the defense is keying on the run. And if you have a poor o-line, you're doubly hurt. See CRod's ypc dropping from 6.1 to 5.2 last year. We should have a good passing game this year, and the o-line should be improved, so Davis will be running in a better situation than he was.
 
Had over 100 yards and TD against Ole Miss. Bama, Georgia, and Missouri shut him down, and TN limited him. Had big games out of conference. I’d take 4 big SEC games from him, along with out of conference, although I doubt he’ll get 20-30 carries per game here

Took 27 rushes to get that 105 vs Ole Miss.

TN shut him down. They scored 0 points. Half of his yards came after being down 28-0 and he still didn't end up with many.

His OOC games weren't as impressive as his best SEC games FWIW.

We should have a good passing game this year, and the o-line should be improved, so Davis will be running in a better situation than he was.

I think the goal is to create situations where Davis isn't running into defenses predicting "run, run, pass". Or to be able to run twice, get a 1st down, and reset the status quo with your play calling.
 
I don't understand why anyone would say Ray Davis and Ramon Jefferson are not workhorse-style RBs, or that they aren't good at gaining yards after contact. To say they aren't is simply at odds with their performance histories. Some people are understandably afraid we can't replace CRod, and I get that. CRod was great here. But that doesn't mean we can't. Prior to CRod, some people were afraid we couldn't replace Snell. But we did. It all starts upfront.

Here is what we have to understand. Liam Coen is back. Coach Coen will use a prostyle approach to set up our running game by forcing our opponents to back their safeties out of run support in order to defend Devin Leary and our receivers. Coach Coen will use our RBs inside, outside, and as receivers. He will take advantage of the flexibility in his RB room. We probably won't see one UK RB get 20+ carries in one game very often, if at all. But that doesn't mean Davis or Jefferson can't ram the football down the throats of our opponents in the fourth quarter if necessary. It all starts upfront, and our OL is getting better.

And BTW, Davis was sensational in 2022 given that Vandy's OL wasn't very good.
 
Not true. I have read that Davis gained 737 yards last year after contact. By the way, the Vandy OL graded out as the worst blocking OL in the SEC last year. Worse than UK.


That's great. Honestly, I don't remember where I read/heard it, but I was a little surprised b/c I was thinking that Vandy didn't have a dominant OL, so he had to have gained a lot of yards somewhat on his own.

IIRC, it wasn't specifically yards after contact but some other "advanced" metric sort of stat that was supposedly a better predictor of backs picking up yards in spite of poor blocking not b/c of great blocking. It was something like % turning negative plays (hit in the backfield) into positive yards. CRod was mentioned as being phenomenally good at doing just that.

If I find it, I will post it.
 
Took 27 rushes to get that 105 vs Ole Miss.

TN shut him down. They scored 0 points. Half of his yards came after being down 28-0 and he still didn't end up with many.

His OOC games weren't as impressive as his best SEC games FWIW.



I think the goal is to create situations where Davis isn't running into defenses predicting "run, run, pass". Or to be able to run twice, get a 1st down, and reset the status quo with your play calling.
Again. It was Vandy’s OLine. Not the 49ers.
 
Guy named CRod only had 72 yds on 19 carries, 3.8 yds per against Ole Miss
 
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