8 teams have a top 30 offense and defense

[TOMCATS1990]

In Ken Pom rankings with a legit shot at the Title. 23 of the the last 24 champions have had both with UConn 2014 as the only outlier. These are the 8 ranked top 30 headed into the tournament this week.
1 Duke
2 Florida
3 Houston
4 Auburn
5 Tennessee
6 Gonzaga
7 Iowa St
8 Wisconsin

 

[UKWildcats1987]

In Ken Pom rankings with a legit shot at the Title. 23 of the the last 24 champions have had both with UConn 2014 as the only outlier.
1 Duke
2 Florida
3 Houston
4 Auburn
5 Tennessee
6 Gonzaga
7 Iowa St
8 Wisconsin

Obviously gonna be one of the first 4 teams.

 

[nickhorvathsuxazz]

In Ken Pom rankings with a legit shot at the Title. 23 of the the last 24 champions have had both with UConn 2014 as the only outlier. These are the 8 ranked top 30 headed into the tournament this week.
1 Duke
2 Florida
3 Houston
4 Auburn
5 Tennessee
6 Gonzaga
7 Iowa St
8 Wisconsin

And we've beaten 4 of them!

 

[SemperFiCat]

Obviously gonna be one of the first 4 teams.

Florida, Houston or Auburn. That's the list.

 

[yabbadabbadoo]

But as everyone knows basketball is a game of matchups and a lot of other things don’t matter for whatever reason. Case in point is UK for some reason is a bad matchup for UT.

 

[ukfan1622]

In Ken Pom rankings with a legit shot at the Title. 23 of the the last 24 champions have had both with UConn 2014 as the only outlier. These are the 8 ranked top 30 headed into the tournament this week.
1 Duke
2 Florida
3 Houston
4 Auburn
5 Tennessee
6 Gonzaga
7 Iowa St
8 Wisconsin

This just means teams that win championships are generally not bad at offense or defense. However, with the way NIL has changed things the past few years...I'm not sure any historical data has much predictive value.

 

[SemperFiCat]

This just means teams that win championships are generally not bad at offense or defense. However, with the way NIL has changed things the past few years...I'm not sure any historical data has much predictive value.

Not sure I follow your logic here...

 

[ukfan1622]

Not sure I follow your logic here...

I just mean that college basketball is a different animal than it was 5 years ago so there is no guarantee that things will turn out the same way they used to turn out.

 

[EliteBlue]

I believe that’s post tournament Kenpom top 30 in both. Could be wrong but I believe the “pre tournament” extends to 40 or 45 in both.

One of the guys who track stats for fun could prob answer that like @Aike

 

[megablue]

I don't know about Kenpom rankings, but last season ... there was only one team in the country that was ranked in Top 25 in both points scored and points allowed. It was UConn ... and they won it all !! They finished at 37-3 on the year ...

	POINTS SCORED		W	L		POINTS ALLOWED		W	L
1​	ALABAMA	90.1	25​	12​		HOUSTON	57.6​	32​	5​	1​
2​	KENTUCKY	89.0	23​	10​		SAINT MARY'S (CA)	59.2​	26​	8​	2​
3​	ARIZONA	87.1	27​	9​		VIRGINIA	59.7​	23​	11​	3​
4​	WRIGHT STATE	86.5	18​	14​		IOWA STATE	61.5​	29​	8​	4​
5​	SAMFORD	86.1	29​	6​		MARIST	62.2​	18​	13​	5​
6​	FLORIDA	85.6	24​	12​		McNEESE STATE	62.2​	30​	4​	6​
7​	INDIANA STATE	84.8	32​	7​		VERMONT	63.0​	28​	7​	7​
8​	GONZAGA	84.5	27​	8​		WAGNER	63.1​	17​	16​	8​
9​	HIGH POINT	83.9	27​	9​		UCONN	63.4​	37​	3​	9​
10​	ILLINOIS	83.4	29​	9​		MOREHEAD STATE	63.4​	29​	9​	10​
11​	JAMES MADISON	83.2	32​	4​		TOWSON	63.6​	20​	14​	11​
12​	IOWA	83.1	19​	15​		NORTH TEXAS	63.8​	19​	15​	12​
13​	AUBURN	83.1	27​	8​		SAINT PETER'S	64.0​	19​	14​	13​
14​	KENNESAW STATE	82.8	15​	16​		COLGATE	64.1​	25​	10​	14​
15​	PURDUE	82.3	34​	5​		ARMY	64.3​	10​	22​	15​
16​	CORNELL	82.1	22​	8​		LOUISIANA TECH	64.5​	22​	10​	16​
17​	LIPSCOMB	82.1	20​	12​		MERRIMACK	65.4​	21​	12​	17​
18​	FLORIDA ATLANTIC	82.0	25​	9​		UCLA	65.5​	16​	17​	18​
19​	NORTH CAROLINA	81.9	29​	8​		LIBERTY	65.5​	18​	14​	19​
20​	TULANE	81.9	17​	17​		CHARLOTTE	65.6​	19​	12​	20​
21​	UT - MARTIN	81.5	21​	11​		VILLANOVA	65.6​	18​	16​	21​
22​	BYU	81.4	23​	11​		WESTERN ILLINOIS	65.7​	21​	12​	22​
23​	UCONN	81.4	37​	3​		MARYLAND	65.9​	16​	17​	23​
24​	YOUNGSTOWN STATE	81.2	22​	10​		GEORGE MASON	65.9​	20​	12​	24​
25​	DENVER	81.0	17​	17​		MICHIGAN STATE	66.1​	20​	15​	25​
	AVERAGES	83.7	24.8​	10.0​		AVERAGES	63.6​	22.1​	11.8​

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Since Feb 8 we fit that mold. Top 25 in both offensive and defensive efficiency.

Hey, I’ll grab on to whatever I can to feel better.

 

[SpartanJD]

You completely forgot two teams. Michigan State and Maryland both rank in the top 30 on Kenpom for offense and defense.

 

[SpartanJD]

Wait, you also forgot Louisville and Clemson. What an awful list by the OP--forgot 4 teams that meet that criteria.

 

[Rockford]

23 of the the last 24 champions

Hard to dispute that criteria

 

[chroix]

Since Feb 8 we fit that mold. Top 25 in both offensive and defensive efficiency.

Hey, I’ll grab on to whatever I can to feel better.

That’s what she said.

 

[ukfan1622]

Wait, you also forgot Louisville and Clemson. What an awful list by the OP--forgot 4 teams that meet that criteria.

😂 His list was so bad it got you on my ignore list.

 

[kyleb740]

I believe that’s post tournament Kenpom top 30 in both. Could be wrong but I believe the “pre tournament” extends to 40 or 45 in both.

One of the guys who track stats for fun could prob answer that like @Aike

This is true. It’s the post tournament top 30. So technically you don’t need to be on the list pre-tournament to fit the criteria though it doesn’t hurt.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

I just mean that college basketball is a different animal than it was 5 years ago so there is no guarantee that things will turn out the same way they used to turn out.

The way teams are constructed is completely different. The recipe for success on the court hasn’t changed.

 

[Aike]

I believe that’s post tournament Kenpom top 30 in both. Could be wrong but I believe the “pre tournament” extends to 40 or 45 in both.

One of the guys who track stats for fun could prob answer that like @Aike

Yeah I think Duke was 57 defense going in in 2015.

 

[Edgarman]

Florida, Houston or Auburn. That's the list.

Are you saying TN can't beat Houston or are you saying we can't beat Houston? I don't think Houston is a FF team.

 

[yoshukai]

Wait, you also forgot Louisville and Clemson. What an awful list by the OP--forgot 4 teams that meet that criteria.

So Duke , UL, and Clemson meet the criteria. Could it be because the acc was so weak ?

 

[SemperFiCat]

Are you saying TN can't beat Houston or are you saying we can't beat Houston? I don't think Houston is a FF team.

I'm saying I think those are the three best teams in the tournament.

 

[TOMCATS1990]

You completely forgot two teams. Michigan State and Maryland both rank in the top 30 on Kenpom for offense and defense.

I read a story on it earlier today they said Alabama Michigan St and Maryland were close but weren’t top 30 in both.