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This isn't the foul you're looking for.
 
This is something the rules committee needs to look at several players throughout the years have done this and nobody ever gets called for leg kicking. You can’t get within 3 feet of the shooter if they are going to let the shooter do this and benefit from it.
Which is funny…because I’ve seen it called against us multiple times in the last 2 seasons….but never see it in any other games
 
Complain about the refs all you want, but fouling three point shooters is becoming a pattern. They're not all bad calls. Something that needs to be addressed in practice for sure.
 
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I think they’re calling it on our guys for not giving the shooter room to land. The problem, at least on that play, is that the player jumped forward and came down within the 3 point line. If you jump behind the 3 point line and land in front of it, there should be no expectation of room to land. The defender has the right to that space. They need to be watching the feet. If they jump forward it can’t be a foul.
 
Been talking about this for a few days now.

You have to coach to how they are calling it.

By rule you cant move into a players space that he jumped from. Thats not the problem.

Even if you're close to the shooter and jump straight up and the shooter flops or kicks legs out...they'll fall for it. Almost every single time, they fall for it more than they call the foul if the shooters hand is actually hit.

As much as they get up on Brea, he should just fall down every time.
 
The rule about giving shooters room to land is good in theory. They’re in a vulnerable position and can really screw up a foot or ankle if they land on someone after taking a jumper. Frustratingly though, the offensive players have gotten pretty good at fooling the refs into calling it more often than it should be. I think they’re just seeing a jump shooter hit the floor and assuming they weren’t given room on some of these plays, when the reality is that the shooters are kicking their legs out and/or launching themselves backwards as they shoot.
 
pingComplain about the refs all you want, but fouling three point shooters is becoming a pattern. They're not all bad calls. Something that needs to be addressed in practice for sure.

You are right that they have not all been bad calls. However, too many of them have been.

By comparison, Oweh had a 3pt shot during the game when he didn't really have room to land either. He spread his feet and landed against the MSU defender. I don't want the UK players going to the ground, but they may HAVE to if that's the only way the official will call it.

My preference would be just to quit calling the flop that shooters are doing.
 
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As I've said at times, in every game there are at least 4 or 5 fouls called when the replay from all angles shows no contact at all. The refs are anticipating fouls rather than calling ones they actually see. It could be bias or ineptitude, but neither is good. It's been going on for years. Maybe someone should remind the refs that you cannot call a foul unless you actually see body contact.
 
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Crooked or incompetent refs

That play highlighted it
A shooter has to be able to land and not have contact with defender. His landing space was blocked. It was a foul and will be 90% of the time when a shooter is not given space to land. The 10% that it is not called is a ref error. That is the rule.
 
Yeah, it's getting disgusting to watch so many 3pt shooters flopping. In this particular play, the MSU players (Hubbard maybe?) even pulled the Reggie Miller "leg kick" to exaggerate it.
Hubbard did it several times, where he kicked his leg out towards the defender- no idea how the officials do not see this as an offensive foul
 
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A shooter has to be able to land and not have contact with defender. His landing space was blocked. It was a foul and will be 90% of the time when a shooter is not given space to land. The 10% that it is not called is a ref error. That is the rule.
Yeah but he jumped forward and landed within the 3 point line. His “landing space” was behind him! There should be no expectation of room to land if you jump forward. The defender has the right to that space.
 
A shooter has to be able to land and not have contact with defender. His landing space was blocked. It was a foul and will be 90% of the time when a shooter is not given space to land. The 10% that it is not called is a ref error. That is the rule.
I disagree
These guys are coming down and extending all body parts when they land, plus if they’re jumping at a slight slant they need a damn acre of ground to land.
 
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They could put a stop to all this flopping/acting if they wanted to. Go back and review every game, which happens anyway, and if a player is determined to have done it, he gets a one game suspension. Remember the UL kid (Jones?) from years back against us? That’s the kind of stuff I’m talking about. That kid should’ve been suspended
 
They kept showing the "foul" on Butler on the 3pt shot that the player made and then made the free throw. I still dont see the foul.
Agree Lamont did not foul, but he did jump towards the shooter. The ref sees the defense then sees the shooter fall and blows his whistle. This happens in most of the games that I have watched this year. Seldom does the defensive player block the shot. Close out under control as the shot is already on his way, pray for a miss, then block the shooter out. The refs should not call the foul in most cases, warn the coach that the next time any of his players do the fake fall then a technical will be assessed.
 
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