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4* Kendrell McFadden

Would be a huge pick up for us. Was once commited to West Virginia but decommitted to look around a month ago.

Love to land this guy.
 
Hope he gets that score, no matter where he lands. Would definitely be a welcome addition. Would be excited to hear he is visiting this weekend, if he has not done so previously.

It trips me out when kids commit without any visit.
 
Absolutely and he is a position of need we didn't sign any safeties after the twins decomitted.
 
Was talking to Patrick Loney earlier today and he was saying he is not sure UK is really that interested based upon grades/test score. He said in his OPINION if grades and score was up tp par that the interests would be mutual.
 
Originally posted by AbsoluteCats:
Was talking to Patrick Loney earlier today and he was saying he is not sure UK is really that interested based upon grades/test score. He said in his OPINION if grades and score was up tp par that the interests would be mutual.
If UK is interested they should tell him that A SS is open if you qualify but again I do not think UK has a SS unless there is attrition. I believe Stoops said that they were at their 85 SS limit. Unless a SS opens up the best UK could offer is a greyshirt.
 
Originally posted by C1180:
Originally posted by AbsoluteCats:
Was talking to Patrick Loney earlier today and he was saying he is not sure UK is really that interested based upon grades/test score. He said in his OPINION if grades and score was up tp par that the interests would be mutual.
If UK is interested they should tell him that A SS is open if you qualify but again I do not think UK has a SS unless there is attrition. I believe Stoops said that they were at their 85 SS limit. Unless a SS opens up the best UK could offer is a greyshirt.
They could take him in this class. You don't have to meet the 85 limit until the fall. Where will be more attrition by then. In fact I look for us to take as many as 4 more player in the next few months.
 
Popular athlete on twitter. You've even got Ohio State fans wondering if they can pick him up if he qualifies.
 
Originally posted by C1180:

Originally posted by AbsoluteCats:
Was talking to Patrick Loney earlier today and he was saying he is not sure UK is really that interested based upon grades/test score. He said in his OPINION if grades and score was up tp par that the interests would be mutual.
If UK is interested they should tell him that A SS is open if you qualify but again I do not think UK has a SS unless there is attrition. I believe Stoops said that they were at their 85 SS limit. Unless a SS opens up the best UK could offer is a greyshirt.
I think if everyone that is expecting to be on scholarship returns next year along with the new guys just signed that will put UK at 84. That is still counting Tubman and subtracting Clemons.
 
I had read somewhere that we would be at 84 also.

Of course if he were considering UL there would be no problem anyway, he is a four star. Hell, probably no problem getting in there anyway, jurich does have a lot of resources available.

I hope he can make it somewhere, and if he can I hope it is UK.
 
Originally posted by jauk11:

I had read somewhere that we would be at 84 also.

Of course if he were considering UL there would be no problem anyway, he is a four star. Hell, probably no problem getting in there anyway, jurich does have a lot of resources available.

I hope he can make it somewhere, and if he can I hope it is UK.
I see where UofL is on his offer list. However, I can't find where this kid has stabbed anyone yet so I doubt they want him.
 
Gossie21: We signed Marcus Walker (S) and Chris Westry is likely destined to be a safety.

Also, only 1 twin was a safety...the other one was a CB.

We signed 5 DBs this class. While its not a position of need, it would be nice to get a 4* safety on board.
 
Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by C1180:

Originally posted by AbsoluteCats:
Was talking to Patrick Loney earlier today and he was saying he is not sure UK is really that interested based upon grades/test score. He said in his OPINION if grades and score was up tp par that the interests would be mutual.
If UK is interested they should tell him that A SS is open if you qualify but again I do not think UK has a SS unless there is attrition. I believe Stoops said that they were at their 85 SS limit. Unless a SS opens up the best UK could offer is a greyshirt.
They could take him in this class. You don't have to meet the 85 limit until the fall. Where will be more attrition by then. In fact I look for us to take as many as 4 more player in the next few months.
You are of course right that there will likely be attrition but I keep hoping that the attrition will be small. Attrition was a major factor in the abject failure of Joker at UK. Heck it seems they lost almost half of most of their recruited classes to attrition. There is another option if they really wanted to push the issue. There is a few fifth year players that has contributed little to the team that they could pull their SS but I detest this option unless they are slackers.
 
Originally posted by mdeer1:
WVU cut him loose
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I can see why. WVU's defense has been stellar the past few years.
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Guys he's right, WVU pulled there offer. But who cares McFadden is legit and just has grade problems. If he gets qualifying scores he's UK's to lose just about everyone else pulled their offer because they are full now.
 
This is from an article on him, keep up the tweets he's noticing

"A former West Virginia pledge, McFadden said the Mountaineers' offer still stands, but other college programs, including Kentucky, also remain interested. On Twitter, he's received dozens of entreaties from fans of both schools."

McFadden Article
 
West Virginia DID cut him loose. But not because of talent. If his grades are in order then WVU and many other schools would take him in a heartbeat
 
"Absolutely and he is a position of need we didn't sign any safeties after the twins decomitted"

Always good to sign and stockpile talented athletes in the secondary. We signed Marcus Walker this year and have two 4 star safeties redshirting this year in West and Edwards. I hated losing David Dowell, I think he will be an excellent college player. On the other hand I didn't even flinch losing Andrew Dowell. He would probably project as an OLB in college, but I don't see him being an impact player at the next level. If his name was Andrew Donald he would not be ranked nearly as high.
 
Originally posted by C1180:
You are of course right that there will likely be attrition but I keep hoping that the attrition will be small. Attrition was a major factor in the abject failure of Joker at UK. Heck it seems they lost almost half of most of their recruited classes to attrition. There is another option if they really wanted to push the issue. There is a few fifth year players that has contributed little to the team that they could pull their SS but I detest this option unless they are slackers.
You're right - I don't look for any early departures to be significant. Some guys that won't see the field will head for the exist as they have been over-recruited. You're also right about the previous staff - it was a revolving door of players which is why we were "forever young". Which brings us another point. Retention is just as important as recruiting. A lot of fans are unhappy over this current class not being what they thought it should be but ignore the fact that Stoops is doing a phenomenal job of retaining the talent we are stacking up. Much better than some teams ranked above us.
 
Originally posted by mdeer1:
WVU cut him loose

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B/c they didn't want to risk signing a player who may not qualify. But if those test results come back for him on the 12th.....well, sorry about your luck.
 
Originally posted by UKani:
Guys he's right, WVU pulled there offer. But who cares McFadden is legit and just has grade problems. If he gets qualifying scores he's UK's to lose just about everyone else pulled their offer because they are full now.
He's right, but it's not b/c they questioned his talent. It was due to academics.....which is a little different, wouldn't you say? He may still end up being qualified as well.
 
It sounds like a no brainer to me, if he qualifies we want him.
 
If he's qualified, get him here. Too easy.
Besides, another player in the defensive backfield would be nice. We have a lot of hybrid players for the S/CB or S/OLB spots, so i don't see why we couldn't work this kid in as well, grades and scores permitted of course. Adds and entirely new dimension to our defense when you have players like that.
 
Originally posted by deuces r wild:
"Absolutely and he is a position of need we didn't sign any safeties after the twins decomitted"

Always good to sign and stockpile talented athletes in the secondary. We signed Marcus Walker this year and have two 4 star safeties redshirting this year in West and Edwards. I hated losing David Dowell, I think he will be an excellent college player. On the other hand I didn't even flinch losing Andrew Dowell. He would probably project as an OLB in college, but I don't see him being an impact player at the next level. If his name was Andrew Donald he would not be ranked nearly as high.
I thought Marcus Walker was already on board before the Dowell twins decommitted. I probably used the wrong term when I said signed, since all of our recruits technically signed on signing day.

What is the word on Edwards? Did he ever enroll (he's not listed on the UK roster)? I'm a little concerned about him and West given their injury history.
 
^Stoops has mentioned Edwards is "good to go". Read elsewhere he is going thru conditioning drills with team as well.

West is also on team.

Both could be key in the next season or two.
 
Walker is a safety, Westry and Jackson project at boundary corner, Beckham is a Nickel, and Baity is probably a field corner but he could play any position in the secondary
 
Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by C1180:

You are of course right that there will likely be attrition but I keep hoping that the attrition will be small. Attrition was a major factor in the abject failure of Joker at UK. Heck it seems they lost almost half of most of their recruited classes to attrition. There is another option if they really wanted to push the issue. There is a few fifth year players that has contributed little to the team that they could pull their SS but I detest this option unless they are slackers.
You're right - I don't look for any early departures to be significant. Some guys that won't see the field will head for the exist as they have been over-recruited. You're also right about the previous staff - it was a revolving door of players which is why we were "forever young". Which brings us another point. Retention is just as important as recruiting. A lot of fans are unhappy over this current class not being what they thought it should be but ignore the fact that Stoops is doing a phenomenal job of retaining the talent we are stacking up. Much better than some teams ranked above us.
Good post!!
 
Originally posted by gossie21:
Absolutely and he is a position of need we didn't sign any safeties after the twins decomitted.
According to stoops and DJ 3 of the DB 's that we did sign can play all the positions in the secondary and Stoops himself said Walker is going to be SS on the signing day special.
 
Originally posted by Deeeefense:


Originally posted by C1180:


You are of course right that there will likely be attrition but I keep hoping that the attrition will be small. Attrition was a major factor in the abject failure of Joker at UK. Heck it seems they lost almost half of most of their recruited classes to attrition. There is another option if they really wanted to push the issue. There is a few fifth year players that has contributed little to the team that they could pull their SS but I detest this option unless they are slackers.
You're right - I don't look for any early departures to be significant. Some guys that won't see the field will head for the exist as they have been over-recruited. You're also right about the previous staff - it was a revolving door of players which is why we were "forever young". Which brings us another point. Retention is just as important as recruiting. A lot of fans are unhappy over this current class not being what they thought it should be but ignore the fact that Stoops is doing a phenomenal job of retaining the talent we are stacking up. Much better than some teams ranked above us.
C1180 brings up a very relevant fact, which I have brought up often. In fact one of Joker's classes did have 50% attrition before they were seniors IIRC. And the problem was compounded by the fact that most of that was from higher rated recruits.

Brooks 09 class was a very good class for him, from 19 two stars in 07 to 12 in 08 to getting TWO 5.9 four stars (both JCs) and another 5.8 in 09 (can't remember a four star in 07 and Boyd disappointing in 08). The two 5.9s did well but were JCs gone in two years, the 5.8 nothing (maybe not the players fault in a lot of the failures, who knows for sure) but 5.7 Newton and 5.7 Crawford ended up disappointing and of the SIX 5.6s Huzzie, Kendrick, Russell, S Simpson, J Walker were disappointing to me, ONE of the six very good, Warford. What if the other five with the same rating had turned out as well as he did, woweey. AND the SEC athlete of the year from that class (primarily because of baseball), winner over the All American football beasts from Bama, Florida, LSU, etc AND the basketball stars from teams like UK, was a 5.4 (primarily because he almost died) that was a 6' 4" 220# WR that was the fastest receiver on the team. Did little, starred in baseball and dropped football for baseball, what ever happened to Adams, I thought he would make it in baseball.

I was encouraged by Joker trying to solve our MAIN problem, lack of talent, by firing most of the VERY good coaches that wouldn't recruit, and adding three 5.7s to our ONE that he got committed early AND a four star, all at the last minute, that was very encouraging. Until NONE of the four, Smith, Patterson, Priester, and Joiner did ZIP, in fact none of them lasted very long, they only tied up a scholarship for a couple of years.

As Deeeefense points out, retention (and development) is VERY important, and so far Stoops has lost ONE player, K Thomas that had a bad influence from his brother that was a Joker recruit from the 13 class.

From the 14 class he has lost ONE commit that really blew up and had offers from all the SEC teams plus the NC, from the 13 class, and he has lost ONE excellent prospect that had off the field issues that may be able to come back, hard to say now.

Yes, he has lost several commits in the 15 class, but that seemed to be an epidemic, and was partly understandable because of our poor finish AND because they spotted some excellent talent and got them committed before the Big Dogs heard about them (encouraging to me), and lost them when better programs (for now) offered.

An amazing turnaround not just in recruiting but in retention, this year we will see the coaching start to kick in IMO.

And if the coaching doesn't improve one bit a lot of fans on here are liable to think they are much better because of the improved talent, experience, and depth they have available. Funny how that works.
This post was edited on 2/8 2:06 PM by jauk11
 
Managed to read an article from Senteniel Sun on him (screenshots before article was protected). Several issues it seems. For one there is a brewing academic scandal at his hs with suspicion of falsified grades for some of the football players. McFadden has changed hs to get his grades/ test scores in order. If I understood it correctly, his grade/ test scores issues are two-fold; investigation into the grades of the football players. Whether that means he met the requirements before this seemed unclear. I guess we won't know until spring semester grades are in by the end of May/ early June.
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It would be pretty awesome to get a T2000 on the team, that would be one hell of a lineman.
 
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