2010-2011 Cats all over again

[mcnicKY91]

You are clueless. This also makes me question your UK Fandom even more.

Knight was a top 8 pick. TJ was 18th. Doron lamb went 42nd. Miller went 46th and liggins 53rd.

Those guys aren't close to that.

Where players (especially one and dones) are drafted/ how many are in the NBA is not the end all/be all when discussing college success.

I highly doubt that 2011 team beats the 2024/25 Duke, Gonzaga, or UF team that this year's version beat. Maybe they sneak one out, but not all three. No way.

The 2011 team lost to numerous teams that didn't sniff the tournament (and that was while playing in a very, very weak SEC, unlike this year), and were a last second Brandon Knight shot from going to OT against Princeton in the first round. That team had many flaws.

I think you are letting # of draft picks and a surprise tournament run that nobody saw coming cloud your judgment.

 

[Ron Mehico]

I mean y’all acting like 2011 UK was 2015 or something lol. That team was a 4 seed that got hot in the tournament. I absolutely loved that team and think it was Cals best coaching job but had it not been for a last second buzzer beater we would’ve lost in the 1st round to Princeton and that team would’ve been a forgotten memory.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Let’s break it down. There’s no a lot of difference between a freshman knight and senior butler. Owen and liggins are equal. Brea and lamb are equal. I’ll take miller over Robinson. The only significant advantage that team had over this one was jones. Considering how young they were there’s not a whole lot of difference

You’re getting too comfortable. The facade is wearing too thin.

 

[sk73]

That team with Brandon knight struggled to play well against sec teams on the road and we all know how well they played on neutral courts/home games. I can see this season playing out the same way. This team doesent handle the adversity of a raucous road crowd and their offense is so bad on the road. But when not on the road the offense is a thing of beauty

I agree. The Brandon Knight team had a slow start. They continued to improve and by seasons end they were much better. I hope this team can do the same but one thing that stands out to me is , the Knight led team had mostly 18 and 19 year old players. Team improvement was very noticeable. This team is made up of a few players that are 5 to 6 years older. We will see how it all works out.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Pope would have won the championship with that team though...

Oh yeah because he would have magically prevented the raping from the refs against uconn.

Pope couldn't have recruited that team so it's a moot point.

 

[Mike-D]

You are clueless. This also makes me question your UK Fandom even more.

Knight was a top 8 pick. TJ was 18th. Doron lamb went 42nd. Miller went 46th and liggins 53rd.

Those guys aren't close to that.

I think it's safe to say that Cal proved putting a bunch of random NBA players together didn't always necessarily mean we would have a great team. That 10-11 team struggled, and got it together very late. We also saw that 20-21 team that had quite a few NBA players absolutely suck.

You can build good college teams without a team full of future NBA players, but I think it does help quite a bit to have at least 1 or 2. We don't seem to have that this year, and the hope was for Robinson to come into form. Moving forward, Pope can't bring in BYU's 6th man to lead our team. It was a stupid idea then, and it's a stupid idea now. That said, I still like a lot of the pieces on this team, and they could make a run.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

I think it's safe to say that Cal proved putting a bunch of random NBA players together didn't always necessarily mean we would have a great team. That 10-11 team struggled, and got it together very late. We also saw our 19-20 team that had quite a few NBA players absolutely suck.

You can build good college teams without a team full of future NBA players, but I think it does help quite a bit to have at least 1 or 2. We don't seem to have that this year, and the hope was for Robinson to come into form. Moving forward, Pope can't bring in BYU's 6th man to lead our team. It was a stupid idea then, and it's a stupid idea now. That said, I still like a lot of the pieces on this team, and they could make a run.

You are exactly right. We need at least 1 to 2 high level talented guys to make a final four here, much less win it all. All you have to do is look at every final four team we have had the past 50 years and it's always there.

 

[The_Answer1313]

I dunno.

I mean that team lost a bunch of road games yes but they were CLOSE games.

This team has already lost games by 13 and 20.

I also tend to think that with Cal's teams some of them just needed more time to figure it out compared to others.

Whereas this team has been in college for years now. If they didn't figure it out by now.........lol.

 

[L.O.D.]

What position exactly was that team not a level better than this team?

Knight> Butler
Lamb> Oweh
Liggins> Jax
Terrance> Carr
Jorts > Amari

Maybe this team has a better bench but Miller alone was better thsn any now

That was when Cal was an elite coach not the shell of himself he is now

 

[UKBB4Ever]

I think it's safe to say that Cal proved putting a bunch of random NBA players together didn't always necessarily mean we would have a great team. That 10-11 team struggled, and got it together very late. We also saw that 20-21 team that had quite a few NBA players absolutely suck.

You can build good college teams without a team full of future NBA players, but I think it does help quite a bit to have at least 1 or 2. We don't seem to have that this year, and the hope was for Robinson to come into form. Moving forward, Pope can't bring in BYU's 6th man to lead our team. It was a stupid idea then, and it's a stupid idea now. That said, I still like a lot of the pieces on this team, and they could make a run.

I agree with this. But Pope didn’t have a lot of options. He played the hand he was dealt.

And it’s actually worked out better than most expected.

This is foundation building. To be winning while building is a bonus.

I think Pope will do exactly like you describe. He will have a super star or two surrounded by solid role players that know their role and just as importantly, accept that role.

I’m looking forward to the process. But I’m also old enough to not want to wait too long. 😜