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Okay apologies then. It could have been worded differently then with you replying to and quoting my post and using "you" (which I took as being me). As I said I was quoting a Reds fan of over 50 years.
How many times has a young player coming up been called the next whoever ? He may wind up being really good, maybe even great but he will never be the next Mickey Mantle. I'd say let him be the first Elly De La Cruz. Kind of unfair to a kid with 61 career ABs to be compare to one of the best players in the history of the game. Those types of projections rarely work out. I would agree maybe being a player that has similar abilities - to this point.
I didn't intend it to sound as if I was saying that. I just think it's unfair to the kid - again who looks amazing so far - to compare him to one of the greatest players in history after such a small sample size. Mike Trout for example was touted as being the next greatest thing ever. Don't get me wrong he's really really good but so many things not to mention injuries has slowed that type of talk. I look for the kid to be good, really good for a long time but he has a long time to reach that.
We will see what happens today! Braves are kicking ass and taking names.De La Cruz looks like he may be the real deal. Then again he could just be another flash in the pan type of player that fizzles out after teams and pitchers study him and start exploiting weaknesses. However until then he is exciting to say the least. I have a buddy who is a big Reds fan and he was telling me at the start of spring training all the talk was how they were going to break the all time losses for a season record. Looks like all those writers and pundits forgot to tell the players how bad they were. Right now they are fun to watch, especially that #44 - my old number by the way![[winking]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/wink.r191677.gif "Winking [winking]")
I think Othani may be the best prospect I’ve seen in a long time. My personal belief is Griffey Jr. Is the best prospect when healthy. My favorite player is ever is Chipper Jones. I do love a switch hitter.
They may be, but if I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard a Reds fan talk about how dangerous they are around the All Star Break I’d be Retired long ago.
Two of the hottest teams in baseball last night. One of us sadly had to lose.
My Braves are pretty dang good. But we still have some issues in the bullpen at times.
You gotta trade prospects to get a legit arm. If they have as much talent as you all think then they have plenty of trade chips.
They can but Lodolo and Greene will be back and Connor Phillips is dominating double A. I wouldn’t sell the farm when we’ve got the pieces to compete this year and the next 6-7 years
I get that but you also need pitching to win. If the Reds have pitching down there, bring ‘em up! That’s what a farm system is for. It’s why the Braves are set up for success for many years. They kept the players that helps rebuild and signed them all fast for 7-8 years. The rest they used to trade for players who would help them now.
Lively on the IL now, was supposed to start tomorrow. Wonder if it’ll be Phillips or more likely, Lyon Richardson
And I’m not about hoarding prospects but we don’t have a big payroll (like the Braves) so we need to be smarter with our moves and think of the future. We want a consistent winner
The Braves don’t have a large payroll either, not compared to really big cities. They have won by signing great deals. Locking Acuna Jr. Up for 100M over 7 years is an absolute steal these days. The Reds biggest problem is their owners. They won’t commit any reasonable money to the prospects they get and trade them or won’t sign them as soon as they hit the market.
They have a top 5-6 payroll and are owned by a huge media conglomerate, money isn’t an issue for any team but Braves are definitely not hurting and can spend freely
And yes, Acunas deal is a steal, I was in attendance for his MLB debut so I cheer for the guy
Braves are the best run team in MLB imo and I want the Reds to reach that level of consistency and then start spending to keep the stars. I think it’s possible and what they’re trying to do
I agree, they have been well run since the late 80’s. Schuerholz built a foundation of success and they have hired based on his model in the front office. I didn’t realize they were 8th, payroll from 8-15 is a similar range. That’s about where I expected them. Around 13th or so. I think it’s funny the Mets have a 353M payroll and they stink 😂. Cincinnati only having an 83 million dollar payroll is a huge roadblock to contention for sure. If they would invest I think they would make a lot more money. Fill that stadium every game if they are good.
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Reds fans complained when we traded everyone away but what everyone fails to mention is all the money we put in to completely retool our scouting and development departments. We’re just now seeing the fruits. Years of terrible drafting, not developing much pitching is over. This is just the beginning imo
I am a Reds optimist and a UK pessimist at this point, what a world
Now they have to invest to keep these guys. Sign some early to long term deals at a discount. If they believe De La Cruz has HOF potential then lock him up after this year way cheaper than the 300 million it will take 4 years from now if he has 2-3 monster years.
are owned by a huge media conglomerate?
unless i am mistaken they are still owned by Bob Castellini
Castellini Group of Companies combines to form one of the largest distributors of fresh produce in the United States, with more than 3,000 fruits, vegetables and floral items including a complete line of fresh-cut value added, organic, specialty and locally grown products for the retail and foodservice markets.
Is Bob Castellini a billionaire?
Castellini's Wealth (or lack thereof) In 2006, the Castellini led ownership group acquired the Reds for $270 million. Since then, the value of the club has grown by 340% to reach roughly $1.2 billion. In spite of this growth, Castellini is reported to have a tiny net worth in comparison with other MLB team owners.Dec 23, 2022
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IF starting pitching gets better, Reds will be a tough out, and legit threat to make playoffs, their division is not that great, they can win it.
Guess they have no choice but one has to wonder how long the Reds can run out Ashcraft and his 4 innings, 10 hits, 6 runs once a week. Guy probably needs a few starts in AAA to get his mind right. Reds pitching in deep shit.
I didn’t think his stuff looked awful yesterday despite getting hit around. But yeah, in a perfect world, he’d go to Louisville for a while. Not even depth in starting pitching with Lodolo, Greene, Lively on the IL and Ashcraft and Weaver sucking a$$
See what happens
Correct. While I love what the Reds front office has built, the fear that always lingers is the owners unloading talent when contracts are up and failing to find the missing pieces for a playoff run because of salaries.
I understanding this thinking, but I like Votto's presence on the team as a mentor. His offensive output has been reminiscent of 2021 so far too. I hope he ends his career in Cincinnati.
No
First, No team would take on his contract. Second, why would someone give us arms of any count for a 39 year old?
Third, no
