This situation with sharpe is why fans are turning on cal.
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Boogie Cousins for one.
Dejaun Wagner was told he couldn't come back and got paid BEFORE getting injured, which has made Cal INSISTANT upon kids leaving when they are going to be drafted high.
Kidd-Gilchrest is another player that said Cal wouldn't allow him to come back because he would be a top 5 pick. There are MANY others(DeAaron Fox even came out PUBLICLY and stated that Cal cared about getting kids to the NBA MORE than winning).
Not that difficult figuring out how this Sharpe situation is going to end.
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Yeah, he’s a train wreck even for a hater.
Dude because you don’t agree doesn’t make it wrong or bad there are about half of bbn that feel the same as me on both issues. Attacking me bc you don’t like the substance well thats the civil war going on in the fan base. I always thought you were a good poster who could understand discourse whether you agree or not. Too many people want to attack the messenger for what’s actually happening and been happening for years instead addressing the root cause.
It is happening bc the entire time our fans have been lied to and continue to be mislead. It’s the very definition of drama. How can you honestly act like none of this is occurring. Cal says it’s sharpes decision to play this year his handler says it’s Cals. Someone is lying and we’ve been mislead on many things for years. There is a collective cry for this stuff to stop. Some of you haven’t caught the train yet
I hear this all the time and it makes no sense. The "one and one system" is not a Kentucky thing. It is an NBA rule. So are we supposed to not recruit the best talent because we are afraid they won't come back their sophomore year? Instead, we should focus on players like Dontae Allen, who was Mr. Kentucky, but after 3 years still isn't worth a shit and can't help us beat a good team? To blame Cal for recruiting the best players is flat stupid. I understand that our fans have had to adapt to the changes in the rules. So has everyone else. But, Kentucky didn't make this shit up. We just happened to be the first school to figure it out and take advantage of it. To be mad at our coach because a kid leaves is wrong. If your desire is that we recruit players that aren't good enough to go to the NBA because you are mad at Cal for marketing our program as an NBA feeder, we will have worse seasons than last year. You have to always get the best players that are available, no matter how long they stay. So if Sharpe does decide to leave, which right now he says he isn't, that will still show other great players that they should come to Kentucky. Keep in mind that Sharpe is not keeping anyone else from being on our roster. He is basically an extra. If he plays this year and can help, great. If he can't help, I trust our coach to make that decision. There are too many people on this board that think they know more basketball than a Hall of Fame coach.
Go away, UK is 14-3 and on a run and this is your take! What is wrong with you? I know there are several ready to pounce after a loss and many like you are praying it comes at Auburn. I advise you to either get a new hobby or a new team if it makes you this miserable. You know it isn't your decision right? Many on this board are downright pathetic or mad bc he isn't Anti American enough
I hate the way this season is going, there are at least 10 teams better than we are! That is unacceptable. After last season we had better win 2 natty's this year
So you delete the "or one of his minions" and then claim I exaggerated?
A portion of the polls on this board represents the majority of UK fans of basketball (which by my definition is eliminating the political nuts that see everything Cal through Florida Orangeman lenses)?
Yes. The vast majority of the frothing anti-kneelers are January 6'ers.
I don't know or care what Cal's politics are. I have strong feelings about Kentucky basketball and I hate to come in here and wade through incredibly short-sighted mindless posts attacking our HOF coach (1 of only 6 active coaches to be named) that has won a National Championship, 4 Final Fours, a 354–96 (.787) record at UK, 6 SEC Tournament Championships, 6 Regular Season SEC Championships, 3 time Naismith COY, AP COY, 3x NABC COY, 2x Basketball Times COY, 2x Adolph Rupp Cup, Jim Phelan National COY, 2x SEC COY, 3x CUSA COY, and 3x A10 COY.
The reason it is so PATENTLY ABSURD to be trying to run Cal off is it is at exactly the moment when K at Duke is retiring, Roy is already gone from UNC, Bill Self has been and still probably is in trouble at Kansas... Cal is poised to own College Basketball but a small, highly stupid, dull witted, big mouthed rabble of snake handlers are trying to ruin it all because of what some kids did to protest police violence against African Americans.
So "yes" I cannot stand the air you morons breath.
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Your entire post is nothing but pure denial.
You don't want to admit it, but deep down you know he's gone.
And he's not going to risk injury to play this season. If I end up being wrong, I'll be astounded.
Not true. Deli Owl is good people. He just needs to admit the truth to himself. You're okay too but you're just living in denial.
how do people keep coming up with this dumb ass stuff is just unbelievable.
If he never plays, just how would that be a selling point for Cal or for any coach for that matter? I mean, the only thing he could take credit for is getting the kid to sign a piece of paper.
You are an absolute moron and should be shown the door. You are trash, and that’s an insult to trash.
Funny thing is I don’t notice all these “political nuts” on the board. But I see you. Grouping “the vast majority” of those who don’t like Cal as UK’s coach as “January 6’ers.” Good grief. You’ve got multiple people, in this thread, telling you they lean politically left and don’t like him.
I can’t imagine viewing everything through a political lens. Maybe stop reading the news and labeling and categorizing everyone and spend some time outdoors. Might serve you well.
Don’t bother. The little guy clearly has the I.Q. of a banana slug. He’s a newbie and probably came onto the board to just to spew stupidity. I’ll give him credit. He’s good at that.
He's a one trick pony. Only has one argument and it's the 'kneeling' political one. So he just recycles it over and over.
My mom died in a fire at the hospital she was volunteering at to take care of cancer patients so your remark is very hurtful. Please donate 10% of your salary this month to help the crippled see again. Thanks.
The way we are doing things is NOT the only way to win in college basketball and if you say it is you just aren’t looking. Cal has sold everyone on the idea that this is the way it’s done now, and yes some programs are doing it that way but several others are not and they have won just as many titles as Cal has. I have many friends from my military days that live all over the country and root for other teams, To a man they rib me about rooting for Mercenary U. I said earlier that I did not blame Cal for whatever Sharpe chose to do, I do blame him for creating a culture here that the majority of players sole reason for coming here is an NBA prep school., you are mistaken if you believe players at every D1 power 5 have that culture.
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I could live with getting the best players available that want to play basketball for the University of Kentucky. I think we could find some pretty good ones and actually build a team
I’m not attacking you, I just think that those posts are what’s helping this “civil war”. I’m sorry you don’t like it but the overall reaction to that post was that it was wrong and it’s objectively not true. You have every right to continue to post whatever you want. Doesn’t mean it won’t get feedback though.
I don’t hate Cal, nor do I worship the ground he walks on. I WANT to like Cal, but he’s making it difficult.
All the talk about “ending generational poverty” is nice, but it’s starting to ring hollow with me. Cal is notorious for not using all available scholarships. Playing in the NBA isn’t the only way to “end generational poverty”, it can also be done with a college education.
Why not give those remaining scholarships to KY basketball players who wouldn’t otherwise have the means to pay for an education, regardless of their skill level/worthiness of playing bball at UK? Maybe a kid from a poor region in the state who might be the first in his family to go to college? Who cares if he isn’t a D1 level talent and “won’t help us hang a 9th banner”? If Sharpe doesn’t play, he didn’t either.
That to me is what is so infuriating about this SS situation if it plays out the way many people (myself include) suspect.
All the talk about “ending generational poverty” is nice, but it’s starting to ring hollow with me. Cal is notorious for not using all available scholarships. Playing in the NBA isn’t the only way to “end generational poverty”, it can also be done with a college education.
Why not give those remaining scholarships to KY basketball players who wouldn’t otherwise have the means to pay for an education, regardless of their skill level/worthiness of playing bball at UK? Maybe a kid from a poor region in the state who might be the first in his family to go to college? Who cares if he isn’t a D1 level talent and “won’t help us hang a 9th banner”? If Sharpe doesn’t play, he didn’t either.
That to me is what is so infuriating about this SS situation if it plays out the way many people (myself include) suspect.
This sort of incapsulates why our fan base (at least on this board) will never be satisfied. We’re in the middle of a great season, and you’re mad at Cal because…he used a scholarship on the number one recruit in the country instead of a good ole kentucky boy who might not even be D1 caliber.
So no Anthony Davis, no Karl Anthony Towns, no MKG, no John Wall, no Demarcus Cousins, no Devin Booker, no Jamal Murray, no Malik Monk, no Julius Randle, no PJ Washington... no top 50 players at all. Just the Travis Fords, John Pelphreys, and Richie Farmers...
Great idea. We can change our name to the Eastern Kentucky Wildcats and play NAIA basketball.
With all that said we have won 1 title, Villanova has won 2 doing it a totally different way, Virginia has won as many as us in that time frame doing it differently. I am not saying we haven’t had success but at what cost. I am saying that the Cal model is NOT the only way that works in modern college basketball as many of our fans think.
With all that said we have won 1 title, Villanova has won 2 doing it a totally different way, Virginia has won as many as us in that time frame doing it differently. I am not saying we haven’t had success but at what cost. I am saying that the Cal model is NOT the only way that works in modern college basketball as many of our fans think.
Maybe, but why so angry, man? It’s just a discussion.
When it’s all said and done, is it worth getting mad about?
I’m just in wait and see mode.
Either way, in the end, I’m still a Cat fan just like you.
Respectfully, you missed the point entirely.
I’m ONLY referring to the notion of Sharpe potentially never playing a minute at UK despite benefiting from everything UK has to offer instead of staying HS this season. Of course, it remains to be seen how it will play out.
I’m simply saying that if Cal is going to have this happen again in the future (whether intentionally or not), might as well burn the other scholarships on guys who won’t give anything back either in terms of wins and losses, but would benefit from the educational perks of UK, not just the bball perks.
I am ecstatic about the team we have on the floor. We beat UNC, and we pounded UT, couldn’t go much better IMO, we lost to a very good Duke team and a loss to Notre Dame in first road game, regrettable but we always seem to lose 1 or 2 that we shouldn’t with better rosters than we have this year. So far so good.
What good is it if they don't play?
Your agenda shows when you argue dishonestly.
He didn't say he was 'mad' so you overstated that.
And you understated what Cal did. He used a scholarship on the 'number one recruit in the country' WHO ISN'T GOING TO PLAY.
You're so transparent it's laughable.
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I think over time that post has proven to be true. Without a doubt we re not making a run unless tyty and mintz have the ball in their hands. Wheeler is to inconsistent to win even 3 in a row in March. It don’t have anything to do with wheeler or anyone’s feelings it’s solely what gives us the best chance to win.
I’m gonna throw this in there. I was one of the first people to call for LB at qb 2 seasons ago. I was ridiculed and raked over the coals for at then saying our best chance was to put it into the hands of our best player every snap. I got the same crap I did in the wheeler thread. Well that turned out pretty well. I’m saying the same thing here. Put the ball in your best players hands every possession. Let your best player who happens to be a pretty damned good pg, let him run the stinkin offense. It’s the same thing. As a soccer coach, hi level not of this ymca crap high school 5A and college level D2 head coach I had a simple philosophy: your best player needs to be getting the most touches. With one exception is if the goalkeeper is the best player. Then you’re Fd. I mean right ? My dominant player was usually a center mid or vs a dominant opponent maybe I started him in a more defensive mid role. The bottom line that guy is going to be our primary point of attack, play through him. Don’t forced square pegs into round holes. And when I say best player I’m talking 80% mentally 20% skill. It’s all between the ears my man.
It’s evident that tyty is this player. He’s the best player outside oscar on the team. He’s more than capable at pg, very cerebral, without a doubt we should be running our offense through him. He is a complete player run it through him it’s a no brainer. I can live with tyty growing pains bc I know we will be a better team in March. Don’t get me wrong wheeler will be valuable in some games but we can’t count on him consistently.
Do you really think they were sincere, I mean honestly? The one I could halfway agree is Boogie, as he said he loved UK and it was the first time in his life he could be himself without being judged. But I still don't legitimately think he was gonna stay behind without Wall and Bledsoe.
You are badly paraphrasing what Fox said on what I assume is the JJ Redick podcast.
Look we're having a good season. Why let something that hasn't happened yet bother you? Don't sweat stuff that's outta your hands. Save the vitriol for the moment, if it comes to pass.
People were good with Sharpe not playing this year, and being the dog next year. They're rightfully ticked upon learning that it's quite probable that he will neither play here this year or next. But after this game with Auburn, everyone will have something new to talk about, win or lose.
