If Rogers the Cowboy comes to UK…. Dude I’m all hyped back up…..
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Dude if you don't like it just ignore it. Does it make you feel better to keep anyone from being positive about the program? I have no idea if this guy knows what he's talking about but I do have faith Stoops will make changes. He's shown over and over again he's willing to make the tough decisions. and I honestly don't mind if you think differently, just please don't do it on every thread about Stoops. It'll make for a terrible off season around here.
I wish we would go back to the 4-3. We don’t have elite athletes on the edge any more to depend on for a pass rush so let’s go back to a 4 man front where we can stunt and move solid lineman around
No one is celebrating a 6 win season? Where are you getting this?
I’m curious if one potential receiver is Corley from WKU? He made a x comment about his last season at WKU. He is a junior currently.
I don’t think Key has an attitude problem. He’s a legacy player and for whatever reason went through several games with a case of the yips this year. Yes he has some fundamentals to work on, but he’s a solid kid with usually good hands. He never struck me as a YAC type guy, but we know from his freshman year that he by and large can make the tough catch when needed. He seems to have gotten his confidence back for the last few games, minus the fumble, but again, he’s not a YAC guy and ball protection is something he needs to work on. I’ve not given up on Key being an important piece of the puzzle moving forward. I’m mixed on Brown. I think he can be replaced and I think the whole receiver group needs an upgrade in coaching.
I half think Yenser was kept as the lesser of two evils hoping that Scangs offense contributed to the OL deficiencies and so they had some bit of continuity with that unit instead of the OL having to be on their 4th coach in 4 years. As for OC, Coen leaving for the Rams wasn’t expected either. Had he stayed we would be in year three of Coen and likely running a crisper offense.
Last night his arm looked like it was his 89th season.
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IMo Coen trying to channel Levis to Wandale with all the deep stuff to BB. Just doesn’t work. Like to see more of an attacking philosophy instead of deception based play calling.
This years defense is so bad I’m not sur
Running pro style is not modern per se . It is complicated to learn and requires people make plays before the catch not just after. It takes a while to learn and understand it. We bring in a qb that doesn’t even do pro style so he comes in and everybody has to pick it up in a short amount of time and it’s not what made his skill set good when he was successful. Stoops wanted the rams thing a couple of years ago just to change the narrative and they had just won a Super Bowl. The offense and Levis struggled the first half of that season and then came on in the second half by zeroing in on Robinson and cutting the field in half for Levis. The pro style felt like modernizing to stoops but still kept it in that ‘comfortable’ range for him that season. It all worked out that year. But now you’re seeing the effects of teams getting early leads and we’re stuck in the mud. Can’t play fast nor can we ever overcome a negative play. We also don’t have near the o line we had several years back where we could still run some even though they knew it was coming.
Not sure Rogers excites me much as a potential starting QB. He does technically have a history of putting up numbers in the SEC, which is probably the justification for looking into him, but he did almost all of that in the air raid system, which is also what he ran in high school. I know he’s played a few games this year when he hasn’t been hurt in a somewhat more traditional offense, but he hasn’t really been that good other than one big game against
South Carolina. We’d still largely be in the process of re-training him as a pro style QB in his one year here, which would have disaster written all over it to me, especially since he doesn’t really have any stand-out physical attributes that could make up for some lack of polish.
South Carolina. We’d still largely be in the process of re-training him as a pro style QB in his one year here, which would have disaster written all over it to me, especially since he doesn’t really have any stand-out physical attributes that could make up for some lack of polish.
100% Our pass rush and run stopping has been a problem all season.
Would never happen but Brown has no business playing offense and should be a lock down corner IMO.
Not as easy as it sounds, we don’t have the personnel and depth to just transition over. I would like to see us bring some pressure in certain situations but our corner blitz is one of the least effective I’ve ever seen and gets blown up nearly every single time we use it. That in turn leaves the safeties, our weakest unit imo, in an even worse position. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t but you’re definitely right in that we have and will constantly get picked apart without any pressure. Big time edge and secondary issues have really hurt us and we don’t have the dogs or depth at either.
BulldogBlitz - Mississippi State QB Will Rogers expected to enter transfer portal
Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers plans to enter the NCAA transfer portal, according to multiple reports.
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A lot of addition by subtraction needs to be done ASAP both with players and the staff. I think Stoops is a big part of the problem but he isn’t going anywhere so you just have to hope 2 crappy seasons in a row lights a fire in him again and he is dead set on making the right moves this time and goes out and finds quality staff that can recruit and develop players and not take more chances on unproven coaches. Players wise, need a complete reboot. Find players who are talented yet hungry and high character who will come in and add that chip on their shoulder mentality that the program is desperately missing right now. Somehow, someway find enough NIL to get a proven edge guy because the defense desperately needs one to make White’s system work. Not easy to recruit but man have they missed on that position in a big way since Allen graduated.
Sounds like we are going back to the drawing board and praying the portal pays off . Not good in our hyper competitive conference. After the last 2 years I’ve run out of confidence stoops can turn it around . JMHO .
Staff has to find a guy who has multiple years of eligibility left. What hurts the offense more than anything is having to start from scratch with a new QB.
The most concerning part of these posts is that it’s mostly about how good players are or aren’t if this is at all an accurate account.
1. What coaches are doing with players needs to be evaluated and adjusted.
2. This reads as though it’s a surprise the personnel is bad. It’s concerning that this staff is now ‘our personnel sucks’ even though they were running around leaking ‘this may be the year’ in the summer and fall during workouts and practices. Do they not have a clue what they are watching on the practice field or what they are recruiting here? I mean how do they miss the mark that badly running around saying the next step is here and then at the end of the year it’s overhauls everywhere?
1. What coaches are doing with players needs to be evaluated and adjusted.
2. This reads as though it’s a surprise the personnel is bad. It’s concerning that this staff is now ‘our personnel sucks’ even though they were running around leaking ‘this may be the year’ in the summer and fall during workouts and practices. Do they not have a clue what they are watching on the practice field or what they are recruiting here? I mean how do they miss the mark that badly running around saying the next step is here and then at the end of the year it’s overhauls everywhere?
So…. new QB, RB, revamp WR room, get cheap, but improved, EDGE(S). overhaul OL and DB room.
Sounds like barely an inconvience to do all that. Easy peasy.
Also, after the fan base have a lived out a couple of 10 win seasons…. they get testy real fast when they don’t get them.
8 or 9 wins?…… they shouldn’t get testy.
7 or 6 wins?……. They do get testy. And deservedly so.
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I hope not because I think if we’re targeting Rogers as our QB we’re going to be in for a long season again next year. He is not the answer
Dane is definitely a good kid. I actually knew him a little bit when he was younger. So when I talk about this it's purely football related. I also think this team is better if they get both Dane and Berrion on the right track. I doubt we'll get two receivers with better upside than those two. However, Dane showed an arrogance this year (especially) early in the season, patting the guys helmet, celebrating after dropping two balls, etc. It's like Matt Jones said, acting like hes done something when he's done nothing but shown flashes of talent. That was both of their problem this year. They have a long way to go before they can show up with an "I'm the man" attitude. They're not good enough for that yet.
Last year was supposed to be the flop
Now it’s this
And already setting up next years debacle?
FIRE MARK STOOP(ID)S
Now it’s this
And already setting up next years debacle?
FIRE MARK STOOP(ID)S
Why should the past be a justification for us having expectations for the future. They shouldn’t be as bad as they have been the last two years, and a majority of it falls on coaching and the system in place
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If you want those players out the portal or recruiting then you better start ponying up. Doesn’t matter if stoops is the guy or the next one, if you want to be real about competing that’s the answer.
Too many whiny moochers on message boards and Twitter that don’t contribute one dollar in season tickets, K fund, or NIL. But sure love to run their mouth.
Just like what we expect from our coaches the fans need to do as well: Less talk, more action.
Regardless, is he an improvement - experience/depth- on what we'll have for next season as things stand today? I judge quite the bit of improvement & thus a take.
Good point but what went wrong with these current players? These are his players.
They ignored character for talent/stars.
Stoops isn't going anywhere.
He also recruited these players.
I also doubt he turns anything around but we have no expectations at UK so it's really hard to nail down a metric to turn things around.
Brown doesn’t have the hips for a corner. Not even close . Plus he hates contact . That’s preposterous.
And you can see the frustration on Coach Stoops face and hear it in his responses during the Press Conferences over the last 5 games because of it. The staff kept kids we have and brought in transfers, paid them competitive NIL money but did NOT get the production they had hoped for from them.
We need to get back to bringing in kids that WANT to prove themselves, that will work HARD to get there AND WANT to win!!!
Obviously every coach should be a really good coach. Just as important or maybe even more so, every coach hired has to be a very good recruiter. Recently saw a list of the top 75 rated recruiters. Several SEC schools had at least 3 or more. UK had one, Vince at #13. We need more.
I don't like saying players names in a negative fashion but if Brown makes it happen today would be very happy to have him stay and if he doesn't it's okay if he goes.
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