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1972 UofL Sports Illustrated Article

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Mods, this is not meant to upset anyone. Not sure if it will. I found this 1972 SI article interesting and thought some on this site might also since UK is mentioned. If it unsettles anyone, please delete it.

Some old folks might like to rehash the UofL/UK history and newer folks might like some background on how it started.


A CRUM COULD TAKE THE CAKE​

HE CAME FROM UCLA, HE TALKS AS THOUGH HE WERE UCLA AND HE HAS HIS LOUISVILLE TEAM PLAYING LIKE UCLA, WHICH SPELLS TROUBLE FOR—UCLA

Before Denny Crum arrived at the University of Louisville from UCLA, where he had been John Wooden's varsity assistant and No. 1 recruiter for three years, the Cardinals were known chiefly for two things: a load of talent and a talent for losing.

But along came Crum with his enthusiasm, his cockiness and his UCLA winner's charisma. He shuffled the starting lineup, installed Wooden's high-post offense and pressing defense and, best of all, established a solid rapport with his players. "He's so young that we can really relate to him," says Henry Bacon, a senior Crum shifted from forward to guard. "It's like he's coming right out of his teen-age years, just like we are." Presto! Instant gap-remover.

And presto! Instant controversy. After an opening loss to Florida on the road, the Cards reeled off 11 straight victories, including two last week—at Dayton (71-64) Wednesday night and at Bradley (75-71) Saturday night. Most satisfying of all, they swept over Syracuse, St. Peter's and Fordham to win the Holiday Festival in Madison Square Garden.

Unhappily, what should have been Crum's finest hour on the floor became his sorest trial off it. Doing exactly what many other college teams do, the Cards returned to their dressing room after warming up for their semifinal game against St. Peter's for a prayer. Deliberately, they did not return until after the national anthem had been played. From there it was nothing but rockets glaring and bombs bursting in air. To quiet matters, Crum claimed he would "come out with the flag draped over my shoulders if they want me to," but when the team appeared for the anthem before the final game, he was in mufti and the Garden crowd was in loud, derisive voice.

"I wish there was some kind of devil we could have placed on those people's heads," said Jim Price, the senior guard Crum has compared with Walt Hazzard and Gail Goodrich. "I'll bet that while the anthem was being played, 95% of that crowd were thinking about how much they had bet on the game. And then they make us the dirty guys. We really respected Coach Crum, because he stuck up for us."

The fans in Cincinnati a week later were even more generous with their boos than the New Yorkers. The Cards beat a tough Cincinnati team 84-76, and for their efforts were showered with popcorn boxes and soft-drink cups. A cup hit Price, and Crum got into a jaw-to-jaw hoedown with one blasphemous citizen, prompting Mike Lawhon, a Louisville forward who doubles as associate minister at the Clifton Christian Church, to tell Crum, "Way to go, Coach."

Coach went about all the way soon after, singlehandedly taking on Adolph Rupp's legions of devoted followers who, even in Louisville, outnumber Cardinal fans. This season Kentucky has an all-white, all-star, all-winning freshman team that supposedly is the finest in Rupp's long career. Crum announced that he was not overly impressed with any of Kentucky's freshmen and that his own Allen Murphy, a 6'5" black from Alabama, would "eat any of them alive." That really cut it. "Can you imagine such gall?" editorialized the outraged Lexington Herald.

Nobody doubts that Crum has the best varsity in the state, perhaps one of the best in the country. When Crum forced Price to cut down on his razzle-dazzle, behind-the-back passes, Price suddenly emerged as a fine player. So did Ron Thomas, a forward who may be the most intimidating 6'5" rebounder "anywhere. When Thomas was at Thomas Jefferson High in Louisville he was widely recruited in both football and basketball. "I love to hit," says Thomas. If Thomas does not get what he considers to be an attractive pro basketball offer after this season, he plans to return to Louisville next fall and play football for Coach Lee Corso under the five-years-to-play-four rule.

When Bacon, the team's finest all-round athlete, was shifted to guard, his forward spot was filled by the 6'4" Lawhon, a very steady player. At center the Cards may have a worry, for 6'9" Al Vilcheck on occasion seems timid and a bit awkward, facts that concern the home folks when they think of him playing against the likes of, say UCLA's Bill Walton or Marquette's Jim Chones. When will they meet? In the NCAA championship tournament, of course, Cardinal supporters are saying.

All of which brings up the question of what Crum would think of a confrontation with UCLA. Well, he "loves and respects" Wooden, Crum says, but Crum also has implied that he and his predecessor, Jerry Norman, had more to do with UCLA's success than most people realize. As one writer said, "To hear Crum, you would think Wooden was his assistant for three years." Well, offcourt, anyway.

  • Final Four (Los Angeles, California)
    • National semifinals
      • Florida State 79, North Carolina 75
      • UCLA 96, Louisville 77
    • National championship
      • UCLA 81, Florida State 76
    • Third-place game
      • North Carolina 105, Louisville 91
 
SI loved Crum and UL. I don’t recall that article but I vividly recall their college preview in 1974 when they picked UL to win the championship. The article said “there’s another great team in Kentucky this year, but it’s in Louisville, not Lexington.” Both teams ended up in the Final Four.
 
Crum was Woodens #1 recruiter. That should tell you all you need to know as to why he had early success at UL. Couple that with the fact his players didn't have to meet academic standards at real conferences and it was a perfect place for him to continue to ply his trade.

Dirty Birds
 
SI loved Crum and UL. I don’t recall that article but I vividly recall their college preview in 1974 when they picked UL to win the championship. The article said “there’s another great team in Kentucky this year, but it’s in Louisville, not Lexington.” Both teams ended up in the Final Four.
But only one ended up in the Finals.
 
Crum was Woodens #1 recruiter. That should tell you all you need to know as to why he had early success at UL. Couple that with the fact his players didn't have to meet academic standards at real conferences and it was a perfect place for him to continue to ply his trade.

Dirty Birds
Bingo. Been a dirty program forever.
 
The Denny Crum in this article is the one I remember. Crass, egotistical, whiny, LITLLE BROTHER!!! Also a heck of a coach. But after all of the posturing and goading he did to MAKE UK play them, he won the first one, then proceeded to be DOMINATED by UK from then on. Heck, even in 86 when his team won the championship, we beat them in the "Dream Game" part 4 earlier that season.

Joe B. Hall took A LOT of grief from Denny and UofL. They pressured John Y. Brown into MAKING UK play them after the 83 Elite 8 game. That's why I ALWAYS ADMIRED Coach Hall for NEVER harboring hard feelings toward Denny to the point of eventually teaming up with him to make an EXTREMELY successful radio show. I don't know if I could have done that after all of crap Coach Hall took because of Denny's whining.
 
I was a kid in Western Kentucky and UK was my team but since we never played em when I was a kid I always rooted for Uof Lo when they they played because they were a Ky team.They had some great teams in the 70s especially that team with Bridgeman , Cox and Buntin. I didn't start to actively dislike them until 83 and that heartbreaking loss in Elite 8 . To this day, Minniefields blown layup at the end of regulation is the biggest MISS in UK history. When Pitino went there I really hated them but was so grateful he never tried to emulate the style of play at Uof L he did at Kentucky, probably because of the lack of talent. U of L under him was a Detroit Pistons like team. Dirty, grabbing holding on every play( much like Pearls teams now) . He is a great coach but Uof L could never capture Pitinos magic while at UK.
 
I hated Denny Crum with a passion but that man could coach. If he surrounded himself with better assistants he would have never taken the fall the last few years as a coach.
 
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This season Kentucky has an all-white, all-star, all-winning freshman team that supposedly is the finest in Rupp's long career. Crum announced that he was not overly impressed with any of Kentucky's freshmen and that his own Allen Murphy, a 6'5" black from Alabama, would "eat any of them alive." That really cut it. "Can you imagine such gall?" editorialized the outraged Lexington Herald.
Fwiw, this 72 UK freshmen class that Crum was “not overly impressed with” was the Kevin Grevey, Mike Flynn, Jim Dan Connor and Bob Guyette group that carried UK to the national championship game as seniors in 75. Perhaps he should’ve been more impressed.

But, then, the 72 UL freshmen also ended up reaching the 75 Final Four as seniors (where they lost an overtime thriller to UCLA). Seems both schools had exceptional classes that season.
 
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Fwiw, this 72 UK freshmen class that Crum was “not impressed” with was the Kevin Grevey, Mike Flynn, Jim Dan Connor and Bob Guyette group that carried UK to the national championship game as seniors in 75. Perhaps he should’ve been more impressed.

But, then, the 72 UL freshmen also ended up reaching the 75 Final Four as seniors (where they lost an overtime thriller to UCLA). Seems both schools had exceptional classes that season.
remember the that UCLA game. Crum put in a kid late, can’t remeber his name, at the point with the lead who hadn’t missed a free throw all year. UCLA fouled him and he missed the free throws giving the Bruins a chance to win, which they did.
 
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Denny was awesome. He was what many UK fans wanted Joe B to be. But Joe was stuck in his ways. And it was the boring, white way. Denny was a totally different approach. The above article was before my time. I was maybe 8 or 9 when it was written. But fast forward to when I was in high school, a few years after. I attended Bryan Station … the “black school”. We had maybe 1500 students, and roughly 400 were black. But we were the north side. We were the black school.

I always played sports, and sports were where I made friends. So some of my friends were black. Obviously UK/UofL was a big controversy at the time. Way bigger than some of you outsiders understand. It even became a hateful discussion. For us white kids in Lex, we grew up loving UK. But for black families, we were the bad guy. You just had to be there at the time. My black friends were torn … they liked UK, but their parents had a different view. It went way beyond sports.

All I know is, at the time, Denny Crum changed things. That game against St John’s, on national TV, when Darrel did the reverse ally oop dunk, on a Saturday afternoon. And the two championships. I was still a diehard UK fan, but Louisville had become my second favorite team. Denny was better, and more exciting than Joe. I was supposed to hate UofL back then, but I didn’t. I hate them now. It would take another Denny type to change that.
 
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Denny was awesome. He was what many UK fans wanted Joe B to be. But Joe was stuck in his ways. And it was the boring, white way. Denny was a totally different approach. The above article was before my time. I was maybe 8 or 9 when it was written. But fast forward to when I was in high school, a few years after. I attended Bryan Station … the “black school”. We had maybe 1500 students, and roughly 400 were black. But we were the north side. We were the black school.

I always played sports, and sports were where I made friends. So some of my friends were black. Obviously UK/UofL was a big controversy at the time. Way bigger than some of you outsiders understand. It even became a hateful discussion. For us white kids in Lex, we grew up loving UK. But for black families, we were the bad guy. You just had to be there at the time. My black friends were torn … they liked UK, but their parents had a different view. It went way beyond sports.

All I know is, at the time, Denny Crum changed things. That game against St John’s, on national TV, when Darrel did the reverse ally oop dunk, on a Saturday afternoon. And the two championships. I was still a diehard UK fan, but Louisville had become my second favorite team. Denny was better, and more exciting than Joe. I was supposed to hate UofL back then, but I didn’t. I hate them now. It would take another Denny type to change title.
I had a very similar outlook on UL growing up. Both my parents graduated from UK (where they met) so I was of course raised a wildcat fan. My dads sister married a UL grad and so their family were and are respectful (crazy, I know) UL fans. Quick tangent- they’re the kind of fans that were embarrassed by all the things that happened under Rick’s watch. On and off the court.

Anyway, when Crum was their coach I was very young and just started getting into watching basketball with my family. I was raised to cheer for UL when they weren’t playing UK (this later changed for my family when Rick took over for them). This was before the great internet age so my family and I (I was just too young- pre teen) to know or care about what went on behind the scenes so there were no dark clouds (speaking about Crum’s violations).

in Crum’s last season, and his last home game my dads sister offered me the opportunity to be a ball boy for a Louisville home game (of what would become Crum’s last season). I took it because I was in love with college basketball and I my parents said to be courtside for a division 1 game was a once in a lifetime opportunity.

I was the only white ball boy. And I had glasses and was absolutely the worst at handling the ball. The other kids were dribbling between their feet and shooting like their favorite NBA players. But the Louisville players (almost all black) took an interest in me and tried to tutor me the best they could. Trying to teach me to shoot like Kobe and dribble between my legs. They were really nice, at least to my face lol.

Louisville lost the game and the ball boys got to pick 1 thing to send to the locker-room for autographs. As I walked over with my ball boy ticket/pass one of the players (black- I’ll explain why this is important later) came up to me, a nerdy little white kid (only one) and handed me the game ball to get autographed before he went to the locker-room. The lady that escorted us to the front of the autograph line said the coach was really mad so don’t expect everyone to sign it. My ball came out with every players’ and coaches’ signature. The lady that took our stuff back said the player told Crum who he gave the ball to and Crum made sure everyone signed it (they all signed the little pass things that the other kids brought).

I know some folks on here hate Crum but that experience really made him and Louisville special to me. Second only to UK. And the way that black players treated me, like I was apart of the team (I would go on to be bullied in junior high by preppy white kids) was beyond impactful of how utterly worthless I view the color of peoples’ skin in regards to their character.

Unfortunately, Pitino would go on to completely ruin how I see UL. And I obviously no longer cheer for them when they aren’t playing UK. But Crum was alright in my book. And at the very least, his last team was chalk full of nice guys (at least what I saw and knew of them).
 
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Couple that with the fact his players didn't have to meet academic standards at real conferences and it was a perfect place for him to continue to ply his trade.

Dirty Birds

I think there's some BS in here. Some UK fans at the time (and if you were around then you will remember) claimed that U of L's players were too "dumb" to play at UK, played "street ball", etc. I hope we can all agree that those were some misguided criticisms.
 
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The Denny Crum in this article is the one I remember. Crass, egotistical, whiny, LITLLE BROTHER!!! Also a heck of a coach.

I hated Denny Crum with a passion but that man could coach.

Denny was awesome. He was what many UK fans wanted Joe B to be.

All I know is, at the time, Denny Crum changed things. Denny was better, and more exciting than Joe. I was supposed to hate UofL back then, but I didn’t. I hate them now. It would take another Denny type to change title.
Denny Crum, even with the cheating, is 80th in all time win/loss percentage. He was a competent coach for sure, but hardly better than most others. He won 69% of his games and most were played in very weak conferences. Much weaker than the SEC.

Joe B. is 44th.

Don't drink the red koolaid fellas.
 
I think there's some BS in here. Some UK fans at the time (and if you were around then you will remember) claimed that U of L's players were too "dumb" to play at UK, played "street ball", etc. I hope we can all agree that those were some misguided criticisms.
Yes, I was around for the entirety of Crum's stay at UL. I lived in Louisville at the time so I saw quite a bit of evidence as to what kind of program he ran while he was there.

Flash forward to when Jurich took over and they moved to the Big East. Jurich stated to the fans that, paraphrased a little, "we've made a good living by taking partial qualifiers, now that we're in the Big East we won't be allowed to do that any longer".

So yes, some of the UL players were not and would not have qualified to play in the SEC. Make of that what you will, but don't try to shoot the messenger.
 
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Denny Crum, even with the cheating, is 80th in all time win/loss percentage. He was a competent coach for sure, but hardly better than most others. He won 69% of his games and most were played in very weak conferences. Much weaker than the SEC.

Joe B. is 44th.

Don't drink the red koolaid fellas.
I can't stand the Dirty Birds and a BIG part of it started with Denny Crum, but he won 2 National Championships and made it to several Final 4's. The dude could coach.

Joe B. Hall was ALSO a a GREAT coach. If not for that CHEATING John Wooden announcing his retirement the night before the 75 Final, Joe B would have 2 championships also.
 
Crum was Woodens #1 recruiter. That should tell you all you need to know as to why he had early success at UL. Couple that with the fact his players didn't have to meet academic standards at real conferences and it was a perfect place for him to continue to ply his trade.

Dirty Birds
Ridiculous. Crum signed under the radar players at a time when national recruiting was not a precise science. There was no cheating, at least not at UofL. The “academic standards” were those set by the NCAA at the time.
 
Ridiculous. Crum signed under the radar players at a time when national recruiting was not a precise science. There was no cheating, at least not at UofL. The “academic standards” were those set by the NCAA at the time.
Why didn't you just use your regular account to post here? You came from the Louisville board, right?

Crum signed under the radar players alright. With under the table benefits. He didn't hang out with Wooden and Sam Gilbert without picking up on the tricks of the trade.

Why don't you just go ahead and tell us that the reason Crum left UCLA was to get away from all the corruption? To come to UL, the bastion of integrity.
 
Crum's fifteen year run from 71-86 was incredible. After that, he fell off a cliff due to the game changing, his getting too comfortable, and maybe other reasons too. But there is no justification for looking at the first 15 years and saying he was only a "competent" coach.

I do very much dislike that on these message boards you have fans trying to rewrite history for the benefit of younger posters who were not around to witness it.

BTW, if U of L and UK had played for the national championship in 1975, as they should have done had U of L not choked at the end of the UCLA game, I do wonder how that would have changed the rivalry.
 
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Crum and Hall were good buddies in the end. Not going to say anything too bad about him.

As I recall he took over from Dromo. Dromo was not a good coach. He managed to take good, experienced players and do dumb things with them. That drove me from neutral to despising U6 as a basketball program. Hence Crum became the enemy.

As I got older and gained more experience on the court, I leaned it was the players and not the coach that ultimately determine the success on the court. I’ve softened a bit toward Dromo. Still despise U6 though.
 
Why didn't you just use your regular account to post here? You came from the Louisville board, right?

Crum signed under the radar players alright. With under the table benefits. He didn't hang out with Wooden and Sam Gilbert without picking up on the tricks of the trade.

Why don't you just go ahead and tell us that the reason Crum left UCLA was to get away from all the corruption? To come to UL, the bastion of integrity.
Louisville had integrity issues in 1972?
 
Louisville had integrity issues in 1972?
Evidently, they did. They had already been on probation and had a 2 year post season ban by that time. I'm sure that punishment put an end to the duplicity though. They reached out and hired Crum because of his fantastic coaching abilities. Even though he had never been a head coach before.
 
Evidently, they did. They had already been on probation and had a 2 year post season ban by that time. I'm sure that punishment put an end to the duplicity though. They reached out and hired Crum because of his fantastic coaching abilities. Even though he had never been a head coach before.
I have been following UofL sports since 1968 and I am not aware of any infractions prior to hiring Crum. Do you have a source to support your claim?

Crum had 4 years of HC experience at Pierce College.

Are you familiar with the head coaching experience of Rupp prior to being hired by UK?
 
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Look at who Louisville beat in the tournament in Crum's Golden Era, then look at who Hall, Pitino and Cal beat. The tournament they won in 1980 is still, I believe, the only one to have a Final Four without a 1 seed. The one in 86 they dodged us (we had already beaten them) because we had to beat Alabama and LSU FOUR times each. Louisville got 11 seed LSU while 1 seeds Duke and Kansas (who had beaten Louisville twice that year) squared off in the second game. You can only beat the teams in front of you, but Louisville always seemed to get lucky in how it played out
 
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I have been following UofL sports since 1968 and I am not aware of any infractions prior to hiring Crum. Do you have a source to support your claim?

Crum had 4 years of HC experience at Pierce College.

Are you familiar with the head coaching experience of Rupp prior to being hired by UK?
Hickman 1956, 2 year post season ban for recruiting violations. Crum had violations. Pitino had violations. Mack wouldn't violate I suppose, so he was forced out.

Pierce Junior College. Was at UCLA when Louisville hired him and I doubt they even knew about Pierce.
 
Hickman 1956, 2 year post season ban for recruiting violations. Crum had violations. Pitino had violations. Mack wouldn't violate I suppose, so he was forced out.

Pierce Junior College. Was at UCLA when Louisville hired him and I doubt they even knew about Pierce.
Show me a link, a newspaper article, etc...


Both UK and UofL have infractions in their history. Fans of neither school should point fingers.

You said Crum had no HC experience, then I showed you that he did.

Now, tell me about Rupp's HC experience prior to UK since HC experience seems so important to you. Let me help you. He was the Head Coach at Freeport High School in Illinois.
 
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Show me a link, a newspaper article, etc...


Both UK and UofL have infractions in their history. Fans of neither school should be point fingers.

You said Crum had no HC experience, then I showed you that he did.

Now, tell me about Rupp's HC experience prior to UK since HC experience seems so important to you. Hall?
Show me where Rupp worked side by side with Sam Gilbert. Maybe UK was impressed with his relationship to Phog Allen and the inventor of the game James Naismith.

None of that traces back to UK, the university. Dwayne Casey became a very rich man over that ruse. UK wanted Sutton gone for cause and told the NCAA that they would accept any punishment. They had no idea it would be excessive and prejudicial. We were over penalized and UL has never once received proper punishment for their filth.
 
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Show me where Rupp worked side by side with Sam Gilbert. Maybe UK was impressed with his relationship to Phog Allen and the inventor of the game James Naismith.

None of that traces back to UK, the university. Dwayne Casey became a very rich man over that ruse. UK wanted Sutton gone for cause and told the NCAA that they would accept any punishment. They had no idea it would be excessive and prejudicial. We were over penalized and UL has never once received proper punishment for their filth.
I hope things get better for you. Take care, LC.
 
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Show me where Rupp worked side by side with Sam Gilbert. Maybe UK was impressed with his relationship to Phog Allen and the inventor of the game James Naismith.

None of that traces back to UK, the university. Dwayne Casey became a very rich man over that ruse. UK wanted Sutton gone for cause and told the NCAA that they would accept any punishment. They had no idea it would be excessive and prejudicial. We were over penalized and UL has never once received proper punishment for their filth.

So the point shaving scandal of the 1950’s with UK never happened?
 
So the point shaving scandal of the 1950’s with UK never happened?
It was happening with EVERY team, UK was the target because we were beating all of the East Coast teams that used to win it all. That was a set up from the start. That wasn't helping UK in ANY way, just the individual players. However, unlike UofL, we ADMITTED our problem, took the penalty and went right back to being great again.

When will UofL EVER admit to ANYTHING(even when caught red-handed)?????
 
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