Zach Yenser
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Not judging any coach at any position at any school 4 games into season 1. By that criteria almost no coach would be in the profession in a few years time 😂😂😂
Hard to say if it's coaching or talent or both.
Another poster suggested that Cox be moved back to G and insert Wilson at C and see if that helps.
I don't know what the solution is but whatever we're doing is not working consistently. Something needs to change.
Another poster suggested that Cox be moved back to G and insert Wilson at C and see if that helps.
I don't know what the solution is but whatever we're doing is not working consistently. Something needs to change.
I don't know what they've been doing in practice but something needs a big time change. I'm not a football Benny and even I can see our OL has serious issues at the LOS damn near every snap.
Protection was better in the 2nd half and Levis did a better job checking down for short gains instead of holding onto the ball for too long. It's not ALL on the 0-line. But what concerns me is that there's no running lanes. C-Rod's not going to kick-start the run game when there's a wall of 300 pounders clogging the line of scrimmage.
He’s bringing an NFL type scheme in and these kids are confused evidently. I think we can all agree and say the O line is struggling really bad. Hopefully it gets better quick, because the meat of the schedule is HERE.
Exactly. Anyone who thinks having CRod is going to magically make things better doesn't know wtf is going on. We HAVE to shore up this OL.
CRod aint gonna do a damn thing to help this awful ass line.
Unsophisticated watchers see sacks and blame the O line. I see a QB unwilling to get the incomplete pass stat of throwing it away under pressure. Levis swallow the ball and gets sacked instead of winging it into the 3rd row. He wants the O line to get the negative stat if a sack than him get the negative stat of an incomplete pass
Fact. Truth
Fact. Truth
Very sad we are exiting Sept and they made the decision to leave Goodwin on the bench. 5 star tackles don't grow on trees. We've got 1 and are afraid to play him on either side.
Yet we may very well end up tomorrow with our highest ranking in the AP poll in 45 F’in yrs. and will be getting an All SEC caliber RB back this week.
Woe is meeeeeeeee…..
Bottom line?
4-0
How many of you were even alive in 1977?
I’ll hang up and listen.
I agree on the sacks Levis shoulders some of the blame....but he got sacked 5 times and many more hits on the QB....
But none of this has zero to do with why in games vs. non conference teams we've yet to generate a consistent drive with running the ball. It's been all pass plays or zilch. That is squarely on the Oline. Guys are getting hit in teh backfield multiple times a game right off the handoff,, etc...It's a pure mess up front IMO.
Yenser's unit looks like they can't make simple Oline calls to pick up unblocked DLine, etc.. A lot of coaching issues is what I see thus far.
I agree that the running lanes are not consistent, but there were time were if the RB vision was better, one cut would've made a big difference.
The only thing you can hope for is that the guys on the OLine are still too young and need time to mature. We hope that the talent is there, the heart is there, and the coaching can match the expectation. Certainly not impressive to this point ... so no, not impressed.
This is my impression. Kids are blowing assignments entirely or do not understand subtleties of their responsibilities... too often anyway.
4 games in and I still see multiple OL blocking one guy while other defensive players are unblocked. Either Cox/Levis aren't making the right calls at the LOS or our guys are not clear on what they're supposed to do. Doesn't matter if they're great athletes or not if they don't block who they're supposed to.
Pass pro was better in the 2nd half but were still having way too many running as go for 2 yards or less with many more sacks and TFL than we've come to expect. CRods vision and strength will help somewhat but he's gonna get hit in the ba kfield a bunch of times same as Wright, Smoke, et al, unless the OL really picks it up.
Pass pro was better in the 2nd half but were still having way too many running as go for 2 yards or less with many more sacks and TFL than we've come to expect. CRods vision and strength will help somewhat but he's gonna get hit in the ba kfield a bunch of times same as Wright, Smoke, et al, unless the OL really picks it up.
Levis has thrown it away plenty. Most his incompletions against UF and YSU were throw aways.
When he’s getting pressure prior to hitting his last step of the drop…”winging it to the third row” is a 10 yard penalty and a loss of down. It is the worst penalty in football not resulting in an ejection. If he is still in the pocket “winging it” leads to interceptions or penalties and a lot of our pass plays under scang are longer developing routes without a back to check down to. If it’s even a question then then you don’t take the chance of the IG penalty….outside the pocket sure get rid of it.
The Oline is getting beat in all facets of the game currently which is why there is zero push or lines in the run game as well. It’s due to a more complicated blocking scheme…Coen tried it too and then abandoned it when he realized it wasn’t going to work and went back to a man blocking scheme. We don’t have a line full of pros so it’s time to move on and simplify it even if it means you loose a few plays in the playbook based on those schemes
Haven't watched the replay yet (obviously) but watching it live at the stadium it looked like niu brought numerous guys every snap. Nothing the OL can do with that especially if the QB holds the ball.
I saw horsey get beat once but otherwise looked like pass pro was good and run blocking was at least decent.
On runs we have rbs that just don't see cut back AND go down at first contact. Luckily McClain started working his way back but noticably not 100%
I saw horsey get beat once but otherwise looked like pass pro was good and run blocking was at least decent.
On runs we have rbs that just don't see cut back AND go down at first contact. Luckily McClain started working his way back but noticably not 100%
I just don’t think the line has the make up to run the scheme. The BBW was made to play power football blocking straight ahead. That’s my opinion.
Agree except the stat motivation. I think he just desperately wants to make a big play and at times it costs us. Sometimes the big play is moving the chains via dump off to give your offense more opportunities. Plus sometimes especially in blitz situations just getting the ball in someone's hands can mean 6. We saw that at least once last night.
Our best run plays have been toss sweeps. So the OL is plenty athletic and mobile. Difference is smoke has zero vision and can't run zone. On toss his vision isn't cluttered so it's better for him.
Also on at least two different occasions we were really close to popping a big run but our rbs were easily tackled by their safeties 1 on 1 in the hole. That just can't happen. Especially not as easy as it happened.
Finally consider that niu pooched it to smoke all night instead of kicking to brown. For an sec rb, that's massive levels of disrespect because they know he won't hurt them. That's embarrassing
This^. Saw Wright twice and Smoke a few times have a running lane that they just didn't see. Instead of 5+ yards, they got 1 or 2. CRod has much better vision than those two. Maybe Wright improves with more reps but Smoke is what he is.
McClain had a nice run where he stopped and made a guy miss. But, getting to the edge against NIU vs SEC teams is a whole 'nother ballgame. Still waiting to see what the fuss about JM is all about.
I won't be surprised if the inside zone reappears along with CRod this week... at least some of it, along with a couple other elements of the Gran system. If it gives us the immediate capacity to improve run game production, CMS will insist. He won't subject Scang to the indignity of Gran running practice (he cannot by rule, and would not as a matter of common sense) but there will likely be a meeting this afternoon after players clear out of facility. My guess, anyway.
We need CRod allowed to be CRod.
We need CRod allowed to be CRod.
I listened to Mel Kiper talk about him yesterday morning, he literally said the pros don’t care about his intercepions and they know he has a weak line, basically they care about his physical traits and potential , just like Josh Allen.
Smoke clearly can’t run inside, this team will look way better Saturday.
I have slept since last night, but if I could have jumped thru the tv screen and yanked smoke outta the game I would have done it. Perhaps I’ve become spoiled with Boom, Benny and CRod, but Smoke looks like he could b tackled by my 8yo sons team. Zero yards after contact. Zero.
That said, I don’t know what he’s supposed to do when he gets hit as he gets the handoff? To me, that is the MOST concerning thing. I don’t expect every play to be a positive gain, but it sure feels like teams r living n our backfield
I only saw that once. They brought the house basically the entire game. We're going to have times when they get there. It's unavoidable. We just have to make them pay all the other times.
QB holding the ball, drops (key dropped a TD too), rbs with poor vision and weak running. All major factors in missing major opportunities to make them pay.
The OL can and will play much better. They're already playing much better than people want to understand. Consider the QB sneaks - we get 3-5 yards on those which is outstanding. Get our RB back, get McClain back to 100%, get more OL reps, and we'll start really seeing the run game take off
BBI,
What do you see in McClain that I don't? I see a guy with pretty good hands, smallish, average speed. I know there has been a lot of positive comments from the staff but I've been very underwhelmed thus far by his career. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see him as an effective SEC RB.
What do you see?
What do you see in McClain that I don't? I see a guy with pretty good hands, smallish, average speed. I know there has been a lot of positive comments from the staff but I've been very underwhelmed thus far by his career. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see him as an effective SEC RB.
What do you see?
Crod will turn these 1 to 2 yard gains into 2 and 3 yard gains, he's that much better. And that will make a huge difference in down and distance, on 3rd down.
The lack of BALANCE from our O-Linemen has been a major factor in our inability to block. How many times have we seen one of our linemen get knocked on his butt so far? Horsey and Flax have had it done to them NUMEROUS times!! That is COACHING. footwork and body control are the most basic parts of blocking and if you don't have it, you will STRUGGLE. Heck, ALL of these kids are strong enough.
Why hasn't anyone in the media asked about it??!!!
Why hasn't anyone in the media asked about it??!!!
The big thing overlooked about CRod is his vision and patience inside. He's not just a battering ram. At times, Smoke appears to be stopped due to penetration when he's really just blindly running to the basic gap, which either hasn't or isn't opening. As someone else observed, he doesn't show much cut back inside. Frankly, I find his running style equally disappointing outside at times. He too often tries to reach the corner when he should cut back inside for 5 and staying ahead of the chains. Pretty sophomoric approach to carrying the ball... still trying desperately to turn the corner for big gains when we just need a workmanlike approach to piling up yardage.
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Nope but I wasn't impressed with Schlarman either. He proved me wrong.
Except it hasn't been just 4 games. Yenser has been working with this O line for about 9 months.
If you were failing at ANY JOB after 9 months on the job, probably going to get the ax.
First, it takes time for an OL to gel. BUT, I don't understand not getting backups at least ONE series along the way. Noticed too that Manning missed about all of the second half last night, Wilson filled in at his G spot.
It magically becomes great next week when an SEC level running back returns to the team & gets the ball.
Coach Scan said in post-game of the 5 sacks 2 were on O line, 2 in QB eating, 1 on RB failing at protecting
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