If you don't think people care nationally about Michigan State's basketball program, I don't know what to tell you. No national appeal? Give me a break.
You guys hearing anything on Bridges?
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If you don't think people care nationally about Michigan State's basketball program, I don't know what to tell you. No national appeal? Give me a break.
I almost felt sorry for you until you made this post. "Light years"
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I'm a Michigander by birth (Monroe) a Kentuckian by grace. (I'm thankful)
I read a few homer posts about UK, that's normal on a UK site and totally acceptable. Izzo and MSU are up there but not quite at the top but they are far from being washed up.
I'm just thankful for Cal and UK together at this time. What a ride....
Oh (Not that it matters) I don't call you a troll. You stated who you are. A flea bite maybe but not even a pain. At least you're an honest flea bite. Be Good
Read my subsequent post for additional explanation on that logic.
Getting a good draw, surprising some folks, and getting to the Final Four is different than actually being considered a serious title threat the whole time. There's not a fan alive who thinks Michigan State had a viable shot at the national title last year, even though they were in the Final Four. Same could be said of their runner-up in 2009 and their run in 2005.
Izzo needs talent to win the whole thing - just like everyone else. Bridges represents that type of talent. That's my point. He needs to bag guys like Bridges to make the next step happen. If he continues to try to win with his current system, then yes, he is certainly on his last leg in terms of having a viable chance to win the whole thing.
But go ahead and post some more about how Calipari is leaving for the NBA.
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The "last leg" comment refers to viable chances at a title, and although shading on hyperbole, which I rarely use, I felt it was an appropriate term in this case considering Izzo has had but two realistic shots at a title in the last decade. Look back at some of his most recent Final Four teams and find a team that stood a legit shot of winning it all, even though they were in the Final Four. "Last leg" referred to actually having a realistic shot at winning a title, not merely drawing out a good run and getting to a Final Four only to get slaughtered by Duke (2015) or UNC (2005, 2008).
Izzo needs elite players, just like everyone else. Failing to land Bridges will prevent him from once more having the legit final piece or two, the type of pieces that take a team from the type of team that surprises everyone with a Final Four run to the type of team that actually is considered one of the better squads the whole time.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Top-10 prospect Miles Bridges tells ESPN he will choose between Indiana, Kentucky and Michigan State on October 3: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/on-the-trail/insider/post/_/id/14493/espn-no-8-sf-miles-bridges-trims-list-to-three-schools…
Top-10 prospect Miles Bridges tells ESPN he will choose between Indiana, Kentucky and Michigan State on October 3: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/on-the-trail/insider/post/_/id/14493/espn-no-8-sf-miles-bridges-trims-list-to-three-schools…
Probably means he's MSU"s to lose. Win some lose some.
On the flip side, he could be thinking, MSU wasn't all that and his mind is made up on UK, but I doubt it.
Congrats MSU fans, you showed up and get to leave with your head held high.
On the flip side, he could be thinking, MSU wasn't all that and his mind is made up on UK, but I doubt it.
Congrats MSU fans, you showed up and get to leave with your head held high.
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Interesting that he has moved up his time table so will not make it to Madness before his decision.
Do you guy's have any other officials for this weekend? If he chooses UK I am sure he would be there in a recruiter capacity.
If the kid wants to be a cat, he has prob known this for a long time now. If that's the case, changing dates doesn't mean much. I'm of the opinion these kids know where they are going for as long as a year ahead of time. I guess we will soon find out.
This thread is embarrassing for UK fans. Totally reasonable MSU fans posting and all we get is stupid trash talk to them that doesn't even make sense. We lost to a frickin big ten team last year fellas, good grief.
State has a great program.
Big 10 is a better conference than the SEC.
Bridges wouldn't be making a bad choice at all if he picks State. We all know what Kentucky offers, however, so it's not even worth stating at this point.
I agree with your comment about Bridges and the type of talent he possesses being a program changing type talent but I don't think I agree with you about Izzo. He just went to the Final Four with a team that is surely one of his weakest FF teams that he has had at MSU. They had no chance against Duke but just the fact that he got them there was impressive. Personally, I remember thinking how impressed I was with the job Izzo did with that group while watching the Duke game. I don't think it's wise to assume Izzo is done. Now, I don't like him much myself at all and never have but if there is one thing certain about him, it's that he is consistent, he will get the most out of his talent, his players will play beyond their abilities, and he will lose in the Final Four. So, while I don't agree with your opinion of him being on his last leg, I don't worry so much about it either.
Agreed. Still not a fan of him moving up the visit and setting an announcement date before visiting again.
Isn't Kobi Simmons still set to decide in a few days? I thought he personally contradicted that report that stated he changed his announcement date.
For the record, it's now 74-26 UK on the crystal ball. One guy picked UK yesterday and one picked State(an Indiana guru).
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I want to believe that Crystal Ball so badly -- but remember when eveyone changed their picks to Oregon for Jamal Murray - and it was UK? I just think its an iffy indicator at best. But you're right - the mystery is - WHY visit UK is its nearly a "don't deal" to Michigan State?
Why are SEC fans so quick to concede the big 10 is so superior? Big 10 has one title in 25 years. The SEC has 6. They haven't won one in 15 years.
I like Izzo and MSU is probably my favorite B10 team, but last year's Final Four was a gift, IMHO. The East bracket was the weakest I have seen in many years. Nova had no business being a 1 seed. UVA was limping and Oklahoma was just another B12 pretender like the rest. UofL was not very good last season either. MSU just happened to be in the right place at the right time. A Final Four appearance is still impressive, but not all Final Four runs (or title runs for that matter) are equal. Put MSU in any of the other three brackets and they likely lose in the Sweet Sixteen. Just my opinion.
I definitely agree with this. I drives me nuts when fans try to say that all FF runs or championship runs are equal or are of equal difficulty. Anyone who doesn't think Duke had a cake walk to the title in 2010 is just delusional. I totally agree with you here. I basically set up this whole posts just to set up the ending. Lol. Izzo always seems to make a good run but he definitely got put in the easiest bracket last year.
Didn't a Big Ten team beat undefeated Kentucky last year? I guess the Big Ten must really suck.
The Big Ten in the modern era is unquestionably one of the most overrated entities in sports history, professional or college. Places like ESPN can barely catch their breath pre-season when talking about how good the league is, yet in the last 20 years they've got one title. And it was 15 years ago.
look at the aggregate. i know you dont want to though. its ok. uk will keep on winning, going to final fours. big ten will keep destroying what basketball is meant to be.
No hard feelings guys. Since it is down to KY and MSU I thought I would get an opinion from the other side, as well as provide input from the midwest people, particularly the IU TOS guy.
As for Meyer, he is my least fav analyst-national guy, doesn't do any detailed research, takes the safe bet until the end.
As for Meyer, he is my least fav analyst-national guy, doesn't do any detailed research, takes the safe bet until the end.
As of most recent preseason poll I saw (can't remember which one) it had 3 SEC teams vs. 5 Big10 teams. The SEC never claims to be a basketball conference but is certainly heading that way with coaching hires like Pearl, Avery Johnson, etc. Not to mention what A&M, LSU, and Auburn have been bringing in recruiting wise. People act like the Big10 is way better, it is certainly heading into the SEC's favor fast. Outside of MSU, OSU, Wisconsin (who is gonna fall off when Ryan leaves), and the addition of Maryland they don't have any consistent teams. Oh and they have Indiana....enough said.
I think everyone knew this MSU visit was critical. I think the fact that we've managed to get past it without him committing outright and cancelling the UK visit is a victory in itself.
I think that is why so many insiders are still feeling good about UK's chances, even though Miles seemed to have a great visit to MSU. You can bet money that Izzo did not want him visiting UK.
I think that is why so many insiders are still feeling good about UK's chances, even though Miles seemed to have a great visit to MSU. You can bet money that Izzo did not want him visiting UK.
No, because UK doesn't even seem to be recruiting Jackson. If the chance of UK signing Jackson is 0 (like it seems now), then there's nothing that can reduce it further.
