With 20 minutes to spare, Hamidou Diallo has decided to return to UK for his SO yr! In Cal I trust!
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Loser, pardon me?
I've gone on record since day one that I'd rather have Cam Johnson anyway. He fits our needs a lot more than HD. Even though HD may be the better NBA player, Cam is a better fit for next year's roster, IMO.
Also, selfishly, if HD stays in the draft I hope he falls until the 2nd round for making us wait so long. Thank goodness Cam waited.
In my completely worthless opinion as always.
I've gone on record since day one that I'd rather have Cam Johnson anyway. He fits our needs a lot more than HD. Even though HD may be the better NBA player, Cam is a better fit for next year's roster, IMO.
Also, selfishly, if HD stays in the draft I hope he falls until the 2nd round for making us wait so long. Thank goodness Cam waited.
In my completely worthless opinion as always.
I really have reservations about his commitment to UK if he comes anyway. I believe his whole season will be a NBA tryout. He going to worry about his draft stock over the teams success. This could be a killer to the teams success.
WildmanWilson,
Agreed 100%. At this point, his only reason for returning is improving his stock and not giving his all for the team's victory.
There's a difference between the two. Archie Goodwin comes to mind. Ryan Harrow...
Agreed 100%. At this point, his only reason for returning is improving his stock and not giving his all for the team's victory.
There's a difference between the two. Archie Goodwin comes to mind. Ryan Harrow...
The_answer1313,
No doubt that Diallo is the better NBA prospect, but that doesn't make him the better college player. Some players are a lot more successful in college than they will be in the NBA. I believe Cam to be such a player.
There have been SEVERAL players that were excellent in college that weren't even drafted. I think HD is more in the Rondo/Drummond type mold of a player that will excel in the NBA a lot more than in college.
No doubt that Diallo is the better NBA prospect, but that doesn't make him the better college player. Some players are a lot more successful in college than they will be in the NBA. I believe Cam to be such a player.
There have been SEVERAL players that were excellent in college that weren't even drafted. I think HD is more in the Rondo/Drummond type mold of a player that will excel in the NBA a lot more than in college.
You two have been around too long to make questionable posts like these.
Every top recruit Cal has taken would all do the exact same thing HD has done.
@EclipsingYou you seriously cannot wait 2 hours? You may need to go get checked for ADHD brother.
I believe Cam Johnson could be a Adam Morrison, JJ Reddick (Ended up being alright in the NBA), Travis Ford, Jimmer Fredette, etc type player that is a TOP NOTCH college player that has a hard time translating his game to the NBA.
He is too slow to guard an NBA 2 guard and too small to guard a 3. In college, it won't be an issue, but scouts might be turned away by those facts alone.
Give me a GREAT experienced college player over an unproven highly rated NBA potential star for this year's team any day of the week. Call me crazy.
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
He is too slow to guard an NBA 2 guard and too small to guard a 3. In college, it won't be an issue, but scouts might be turned away by those facts alone.
Give me a GREAT experienced college player over an unproven highly rated NBA potential star for this year's team any day of the week. Call me crazy.
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
Sounds like Cam is waiting to see if Huckleberry can get the one year wait lifted.
Not ADD at all, just cannot believe a player would wait until literally less than 2 hours before the deadline to decide.
I doubt he is currently on the phone at 10:10 still talking to NBA teams to help make his choice. Maybe I'm wrong.
I doubt he is currently on the phone at 10:10 still talking to NBA teams to help make his choice. Maybe I'm wrong.
Great read I agree Cam will be a better fit I think for us I want number#9. But if Diallo can come and put team 1st then ok but I just feel its all about him.
Cam is trying like hell to go to UNC and you guys are pissed that a kid is deciding on going pro or UK in the next 2 hours?
Also, if Cam was half as good as you are touting him he would be in the draft - 6'8 guards that are that good leave.
We haven't even seen Diallo play a single college game yet.
Yeah sure you can say there have been players that have been better in college that weren't even drafted. But the majority of players that do get drafted do so because they were good college players. The fact that Diallo is getting considering for the first round when he hasn't played a single college game should say something.
This is less about Cam Johnson who I think is a good college player and more with the fact that I think Diallo is going to be alot better.
Cam is 6"9'. He shot 42% from 3 in the ACC, 82% from FT, and averaged 12 ppg on a team that revolved around feeding the post to their 2 extremely good big men.
He RS his FR year. He has 3 years of experience practicing in the college environment. That is something I think we are currently lacking. Experience.
He has played in the toughest of environments, unlike all of our FR and can help tell them what to expect.
If Cam were 4" smaller with the foot speed that came with that, he would be entering the draft, not transferring. Without question.
He is a tweener. A dead eye experienced shooter that has shot the 3 better than HD at every stage of his career.
In the end, I trust in Cal 100%. If you were to ask me, though. I'd rather have Cam Johnson on next year's roster. On other teams, HD might very well be the better fit.
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
He RS his FR year. He has 3 years of experience practicing in the college environment. That is something I think we are currently lacking. Experience.
He has played in the toughest of environments, unlike all of our FR and can help tell them what to expect.
If Cam were 4" smaller with the foot speed that came with that, he would be entering the draft, not transferring. Without question.
He is a tweener. A dead eye experienced shooter that has shot the 3 better than HD at every stage of his career.
In the end, I trust in Cal 100%. If you were to ask me, though. I'd rather have Cam Johnson on next year's roster. On other teams, HD might very well be the better fit.
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
This is either going to the last minute, as foreshadowed, or I wouldn't even doubt if we don't hear either way.
This is not questionable. It's an opinion. I think the twins played for draft position as well the first year and it killed them. The whole situation with this case is different. The way he comes in early. The way he decided to not play. The way he's stringing this out. I still think his mind and heart is in the NBA and he wants nothing to do with UK if he can help it. He may be a great kid personally but I will not be heart broken if he didn't come. We have other options.
WildmanWilson,
I REALLY hope that you're correct and the Johnson ship has not sailed at this point.
The fact he has waited so long and even admitted to making his choice based on who leaves and returns has to help. Since Arizona and UNC have had players return, I think Johnson will commit in a heartbeat if indeed HD stays in the draft. Most all signs point that way.
I REALLY hope that you're correct and the Johnson ship has not sailed at this point.
The fact he has waited so long and even admitted to making his choice based on who leaves and returns has to help. Since Arizona and UNC have had players return, I think Johnson will commit in a heartbeat if indeed HD stays in the draft. Most all signs point that way.
... and this is why the handling of this process was such a miscalculation.
If he returns, his motives will be questioned and game even more so scutinized bc he sought to hide it during the weeks leading up to the draft,
Very poorly handled.
And why I actually think he would be better off staying in the draft at this point.
TheAnonymous13,
I'm to the point that I am in agreement. Even if HD comes, he appears to be more concerned about his draft position than UK winning another title.
It is certainly possible that both can come hand in hand, but I think a player like Cam Johnson that has waited so long to see what his PT will look like at UK will be more of a help on next year's roster full of youngsters.
If Cam is a guarantee, I'd prefer to lose HD at this point. Sad to say. Hell of a player. The main reason I want HD is to guarantee we don't strike out on both players at this point.
I'm to the point that I am in agreement. Even if HD comes, he appears to be more concerned about his draft position than UK winning another title.
It is certainly possible that both can come hand in hand, but I think a player like Cam Johnson that has waited so long to see what his PT will look like at UK will be more of a help on next year's roster full of youngsters.
If Cam is a guarantee, I'd prefer to lose HD at this point. Sad to say. Hell of a player. The main reason I want HD is to guarantee we don't strike out on both players at this point.
Geez the way he is stringing it out is making you 2 grown men mad at him. Ok...
He shouldnt play here this season because he wants to an NBA player.. Ok.
He should stay in the draft because it has taken him too long to make a decision... Ok.
brianpoe,
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.
I firmly believe that if HD is NBA bound, he will be in Lexington.
The enquiries made with UNC were incase Diallo decided to come back.
You could be 100% right, though. We are just making educated guesses at this point and I respect your opinion.
The last I heard, Pitt wasn't going to let him go to UNC, anyway. His top 3 were Arizona, UNC, and UK. After Arizona's returnees, he enquired about UNC only to have Pitt blobk his transfer.
Who knows at this point. I always respect differing opinions and if HD is heading to the pro's, I REALLY hope you are wrong. Ha ha!
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.
I firmly believe that if HD is NBA bound, he will be in Lexington.
The enquiries made with UNC were incase Diallo decided to come back.
You could be 100% right, though. We are just making educated guesses at this point and I respect your opinion.
The last I heard, Pitt wasn't going to let him go to UNC, anyway. His top 3 were Arizona, UNC, and UK. After Arizona's returnees, he enquired about UNC only to have Pitt blobk his transfer.
Who knows at this point. I always respect differing opinions and if HD is heading to the pro's, I REALLY hope you are wrong. Ha ha!
You misunderstood my post.
I'm not at all mad at him.
But I think the handling of the process will unfairly heighten expectations and also place his game under greater scrutiny.
And so I think it may be in his best interest to stay in the draft... while his game hasn't yet been subjected to that level of analysis.
I have no idea if HD is leaving or not.
And Cam himself said if he thought there was a chance to go to UNC he would have been talking with them since DAY ONE.
I disagree he has handled anything wrong. He declared to se if he will get drafted, he has 15 minutes to make a decision.
It is the whiny grown men on here that have blown this totally out of proportion and i do agree with you that the expectations will be higher and that his game isnt where it needs to be yet.
Just saying it isnt HD's fault. Our whacked out fanbase does this.
Well, there it is. With 20 minutes to spare. Hamidou Diallo will he suiting up for The University of Kentucky instead of staying in the draft!
In Cal I trust 100%. I'll still follow Cam Johnson wherever he lands, but this is why Cal makes the big bucks and I'm on a computer at midnight over an 18 year old kid!
In Cal I trust 100%. I'll still follow Cam Johnson wherever he lands, but this is why Cal makes the big bucks and I'm on a computer at midnight over an 18 year old kid!
We will see. I think you have pumped him a bit too much but you may be correct.
I was excited for him seeing the 24 points at the deancheater dome.
Then I saw he scored like 5 points total in 3 games vs Duke and UL twice.
If he has all that talent not sure why he is a grad school transfer and not going to the league?
I'll take Diallo over Cam this season we will see who was right or wrong, wish them both the best...unless Cam does in fact go to UNC...
I never give up on anything since Cal came here. Keep your powder dry and your F5 finger hard, and almost always it will be OK.
Dude it is his future he is dealing with not yours. You need help if your life is determined if a player decides to stay or go to the NBA. I am die hard UK fan as much as anyone, but I'm not going to wish anything bad on a 17 or 18 yr old kid that is trying to decide about HIS life not your life. Get over yourself.
LOL! That's some thin skin.
It was nothing more than a jab made in jest which I thought was obvious.
HD is only returning due to not getting his 1st round guarantee. He made that extremely obvious.
In Cal I trust! While I wanted Cam more, Cal makes the big bucks and must trust that HD gives us a better chance in March than Cam.
Going to be such a fun year to be a Kentucky basketball fan!
It was nothing more than a jab made in jest which I thought was obvious.
HD is only returning due to not getting his 1st round guarantee. He made that extremely obvious.
In Cal I trust! While I wanted Cam more, Cal makes the big bucks and must trust that HD gives us a better chance in March than Cam.
Going to be such a fun year to be a Kentucky basketball fan!
I promise that I didn't pump Cam up. If he ends up at UCLA, he will score over 15 a game to lead the team.
Might be the best shooter in college. Scouts claim he lacks the vertical quickness to guard NBA 2s and is too small for NBA 3s. Neither of those will be an issue in college since he may see a NBA 2/3 4-5 times in the entire season.
He would be a 1st round pick this season if he were 3" smaller and that much quicker or if he put on 25 pounds and could bang with a NBA 3. He is a tweener that will continue to succeed in college wherever he ends up. Much like Morrison, Fredette, Reddick, Kennard, Meeks, etc. even though he isn't getting any love from the NBA.
Might be the best shooter in college. Scouts claim he lacks the vertical quickness to guard NBA 2s and is too small for NBA 3s. Neither of those will be an issue in college since he may see a NBA 2/3 4-5 times in the entire season.
He would be a 1st round pick this season if he were 3" smaller and that much quicker or if he put on 25 pounds and could bang with a NBA 3. He is a tweener that will continue to succeed in college wherever he ends up. Much like Morrison, Fredette, Reddick, Kennard, Meeks, etc. even though he isn't getting any love from the NBA.
I mean, didn't you see the Pitt @ UNC game and see what he may very well become this year? Players develop at different rates. Cam was freaking RS as a commit after needing a nice sized shoulder surgery. Quite the turn around in 3 years. If he repeats that improvement his last 2 years, look out! He'll be the next Kevin Durant or Dirk Knowitzki (ha ha, extremely unlikely)!
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No you are incorrect. I'm not made at him. I have no reason to be made at some kid for his own career choice. I don't like how it all played out however. As a fan I have a right to an opinion but it's not my life to live. I can still question his motives and drive to make this about him vs the team.
Averaging 15 at UCLA isn't that difficult in their no defense all the time system. He also won't sniff the Final Four or even Elite 8 while UK will definitely be there.
UKWildcats#8,
With our team full of 9 5* players with 5 of them projected to be lottery picks in the next draft, UCLA or anyone else will have a close to impossible ride putting down these Cats once Calipari begins prepping them to be one of the college teams with the least amount of weaknesses in Cal's UK history, IMO.
5 players currently projected to be lottery kicks in the next draft. Going to be such a fun season for all us Kentucky fans...
With our team full of 9 5* players with 5 of them projected to be lottery picks in the next draft, UCLA or anyone else will have a close to impossible ride putting down these Cats once Calipari begins prepping them to be one of the college teams with the least amount of weaknesses in Cal's UK history, IMO.
5 players currently projected to be lottery kicks in the next draft. Going to be such a fun season for all us Kentucky fans...
