Will has HORRIBLE pocket presence and field recogintion.

[catben]

I realize our O-Line is not that good, but Will makes it worse by not reading the defense pre-snap, locking in on ONE receiver, not creating more pocket space by moving up, back or laterally and NOT throwing the ball away and holding on too long and running too late.

It's as big of a problem as our O-Line

 

[HagginHall1999]

I realize our O-Line is not that good, but Will makes it worse by not reading the defense pre-snap, locking in on ONE receiver, not creating more pocket space by moving up, back or laterally and NOT throwing the ball away and holding on too long and running too late.

It's as big of a problem as our O-Line

Not it isn't. The lines on both offense and defense are the most important part of football. Does Will have elite pocket presence? No. He isn't Joe Burrow...but very few QB's at any level could work with what Will has this year.

UK gave up 25 sacks in 13 games last year with Levis as QB. Less than 2 per game.

Through 8 games they've given up 30. Almost 4 per game. That is pacing to almost double the total from last year in a 13 game season.

Doubling total given up when the QB is the same as last year points to how bad the line is.

 

[STL_Cat]

Haggin has been working overtime defending WL and his overall pocket presence, sorry bud. OP is absolutely right.

 

[Boyd94]

On his throw to a covered Key earlier, he had a receiver underneath wide open.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Johnny Unitas would struggle with this line.

 

[sam_o]

Will holds onto the ball FOREVER. He takes a lot of unnecessary sacks

 

[BlueTick2]

He has no pocket to have a presence in.

 

[Nawlij]

On his throw to a covered Key earlier, he had a receiver underneath wide open.

Amen…misread have been a consistent problem…

 

[rolaid]

I agree with OP - he’s feeling pressure before it arrives not making quick decisions
Something is amiss - how bought a QB draw get him going
Do not see him limping at all not sure how dinged he is

 

[ktbug]

Missed 2 wide open receivers, never even looked. Should have stepped up and hit CR who was open.
What I think is he has no trust in our OL. So when they do their job, he hurries like he normally has to, because he feels like he has to.

 

[sam_o]

He has no pocket to have a presence in.

That’s just not true. He has a lot of plays where he holds onto the ball for wayyyyy too long.

 

[flacat22]

Looked pretty solid in the “pocket” on the third down pass to Robinson.

 

[Lempface]

He has no pocket to have a presence in.

The line has not been good but he takes at least twice as many sacks than he needs to. Needs to throw it away.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Haggin has been working overtime defending WL and his overall pocket presence, sorry bud. OP is absolutely right.

Please enlighten me on what the difference is between last year and this year

 

[STL_Cat]

Please enlighten me on what the difference is between last year and this year

I don’t know, man. I wish I could tell you.

 

[HagginHall1999]

I don’t know, man. I wish I could tell you.

It's pretty simple it is the offensive line. It is a train wreck.

 

[HagginHall1999]

For what it's worth Crod is down a yard per rush this yr too.

 

[cats2010]

It's pretty simple it is the offensive line. It is a train wreck.

The offensive line is not as good. WL takes too long, both can be true at the same time.

 

[STL_Cat]

The offensive line is not as good. WL takes too long, both can be true at the same time.

Agreed. The O-Line has been awful, but Will has his share or responsibility here too. He’s made plenty of questionable decisions this year.

 

[HagginHall1999]

The offensive line is not as good. WL takes too long, both can be true at the same time.

OP said half of the blame is on Levis and that just is not true. If you don't have a good line and good protection it makes reads way more difficult and it's not as easy as folks are making it out to be.

Working with split seconds here and if you throw every ball away well the offense will do nothing.

I'm not saying the guy is perfect but not sure what you want him to do when 75% of the time he has someone in his grill.

 

[megablue]

He plays a mean air guitar.

 

[K_TIME]

Please enlighten me on what the difference is between last year and this year

1. Oline is different for sure
2. But also Scang is different from Coen is anotehr a change.

 

[Mike_Edwards]

The NFL exec that takes him top 5 will be un or less employed within 24 months.

 

[RobEStacy]

Will only had one target to really look for last year, if Wandal was covered, he looked to Ali. Now he has 3 WR and TEs to look at. He is not making fast enough reads and focuses on the big play to much. Countless times there has been receivers open right in front of him and his is locked in on one big hit play. Very rarely do you see him throw the ball away to protect yardage. The line is not helping much, and shoulders a good chunk of the blame. There is enough blame to go around and none of them should be happy about the performances being put on the field.

 

[Catluv]

Missed 2 wide open receivers, never even looked. Should have stepped up and hit CR who was open.
What I think is he has no trust in our OL. So when they do their job, he hurries like he normally has to, because he feels like he has to.

That check off to CROD would of went for big yards if not a TD.

 

[crashtestdummy]

Looked pretty solid in the “pocket” on the third down pass to Robinson.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

 

[crashtestdummy]

Please enlighten me on what the difference is between last year and this year

On the plays where the only receiver he looked at wasn't open....he ran the ball.

 

[catben]

Will has trouble going through his progressions fast enough. Some of that is on the Line, some of it is on Scang, but Will just doesn't like to come back to the opposite half of the field after his primary receiver is covered.

 

[HagginHall1999]

On the plays where the only receiver he looked at wasn't open....he ran the ball.

Well in fairness we really only had one receiver last year ha. But I do agree I wish he would run the ball more this year and don't quite understand it unless it has to do with injuries.

 

[specialkd24]

Will is hurt. If he could run it would be a little different (although he does hold it too long). Hurt with limited mobility and the worse O-Line in the SEC is not a good combo.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Please enlighten me on what the difference is between last year and this year

The difference has been much discussed. Last year the plan was one read then run. This year there is a consensus plan to avoid him running. He's actually playing the QB position by going through progressions. He's just slow. Couple that with a mediocre and inconsistent pass protecting OL; and it's been an adventure.

On his throw to a covered Key earlier, he had a receiver underneath wide open.

When he sees what he wants and lets it rip, there are none better. It's just inconsistent at best and trending downward the last two games. He's waiting to see someone open but that just doesn't happen in the sec. He must anticipate the throw and he just doesn't do that

 

[Cawood86]

Not it isn't. The lines on both offense and defense are the most important part of football. Does Will have elite pocket presence? No. He isn't Joe Burrow...but very few QB's at any level could work with what Will has this year.

UK gave up 25 sacks in 13 games last year with Levis as QB. Less than 2 per game.

Through 8 games they've given up 30. Almost 4 per game. That is pacing to almost double the total from last year in a 13 game season.

Doubling total given up when the QB is the same as last year points to how bad the line is.

O line is definitely not very good. His pocket presence is equally bad.

Not sure why a NFL takes him if that issue isn't fixed. Someone will likely, but it will be a huge problem for him.

 

[NoDef]

O line is definitely not very good. His pocket presence is equally bad.

Not sure why a NFL takes him if that issue isn't fixed. Someone will likely, but it will be a huge problem for him.

Scouts are obviously thinking that play calling and/or line play is a big part of the problem. If Levis was as bad as some on here think, they wouldn't still have him top 5. Our line is horrible. CRod not as good either and it's not close. There is a breakdown on about every play.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

O line is definitely not very good. His pocket presence is equally bad.

Not sure why a NFL takes him if that issue isn't fixed. Someone will likely, but it will be a huge problem for him.

Because they see flashes. He does it, just not consistently. They think they can coach that consistently. They can't coach anyone to have his physical gifts

 

[ck-2]

Besides holding the ball too long, the thing that drives me nuts is when you have the ball let’s say on your own 10 yard line. Picking up first downs is paramount to flipping the field. Even if you don’t score you at least dig yourself out of a hole and keep the opponent from having great field position.
So on 3rd and 5 instead of checking down to the tightend wide open in the middle of the field for the first down, he takes a shot and throws it deep for a low percentage incompletion and gives them the ball. These kinds of decisions add up to losing football.

 

[Bluesbrother]

I realize our O-Line is not that good, but Will makes it worse by not reading the defense pre-snap, locking in on ONE receiver, not creating more pocket space by moving up, back or laterally and NOT throwing the ball away and holding on too long and running too late.

It's as big of a problem as our O-Line

I have to agree but the problem now is that the Will Levis "hype" is in runaway mode and there's no way he could ever measure up with his low-level protection from the OL. You're right though because his failures you mention only make the overall problem with offense worse. Levis is talented but he has so many areas for improvement and will probably have to wait until NFL coaches fix him if even then. His only real assets are his size and arm strength. I just don't think he has the intangibles that make a great QB. He's good but just not great. I saw better intangibles with Sheron who I think would probably be the better college QB with game experience.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Scouts are obviously thinking that play calling and/or line play is a big part of the problem. If Levis was as bad as some on here think, they wouldn't still have him top 5. Our line is horrible. CRod not as good either and it's not close. There is a breakdown on about every play.

Correct, scouts know better than probably everyone on here including myself.

That said, the line is terrible. CRod is now sub 5ypg on season. Coming into this year his career avg was 6.6 on 400+ carries. Couple this with the fact that Levis has been sacked 36 times in 9 games (25 in 13 games last season) I don't know how anyone doesn't draw the conclusion that 90% of the problem is the OLine. Levis is on pace to be sacked more than 2x compared to last year.

 

[Cawood86]

Scouts are obviously thinking that play calling and/or line play is a big part of the problem. If Levis was as bad as some on here think, they wouldn't still have him top 5. Our line is horrible. CRod not as good either and it's not close. There is a breakdown on about every play.

I don't disagree with their being breakdowns on al most every play.

 

[K_TIME]

The NFL exec that takes him top 5 will be un or less employed within 24 months.

Man...Love Will but i just don't see it either.

If NFL is all about arm strength and size and an occasional pass with many poor reads/throws....then why are not kids with cannon arm and 6'3 and taller...not automatically first rounders?

He's played very bad this year IMO.

 

[yoshukai]

Haggin has been working overtime defending WL and his overall pocket presence, sorry bud. OP is absolutely right.

He must be his uncle or something.