Did he beat Mercer with Jabari Parker?
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Did he beat Mercer with Jabari Parker?
Cal has always worked better in th " me against the world " or " underdog " role. He did it at umass and Memphis. Even his best team at Memphis that beat the likes of Westbrook and love , people were saying his team was small and didn't play nobody. He uses this to his advantage.
Look how many we have offered as of late. cal is back in the saddle. He is pulling out all the stops . It's funny how so many criticized his OAD now that K does it , K is a genius.
Cal + UK was and still is the perfect storm. Who would have thought knight and co. Would go to a final four or even Randle and Harrison's the way the season was going. We are in the hunt every year. Not everyone can say that.
I think UK fans will love this team. No more Harrison bashing threads and not living up to expectations talk. No more platoon talk. It's a brand new squad with a new floor general. A new style of play. A guard heavy lineup with a shorter shot clock and a fan favorite in Ulis with a cornerstone in poythress . We have the makings of a fun team that will bring a style of play we haven't witnessed yet in the Cal era.
Look how many we have offered as of late. cal is back in the saddle. He is pulling out all the stops . It's funny how so many criticized his OAD now that K does it , K is a genius.
Cal + UK was and still is the perfect storm. Who would have thought knight and co. Would go to a final four or even Randle and Harrison's the way the season was going. We are in the hunt every year. Not everyone can say that.
I think UK fans will love this team. No more Harrison bashing threads and not living up to expectations talk. No more platoon talk. It's a brand new squad with a new floor general. A new style of play. A guard heavy lineup with a shorter shot clock and a fan favorite in Ulis with a cornerstone in poythress . We have the makings of a fun team that will bring a style of play we haven't witnessed yet in the Cal era.
One title to show for it. Remember 8 years ago when ff banners didn't matter and championship banners were all that did matter. Boy how things have changed
Out in front bwahahaha. Last time I checked it was8-5 UK. Not worried even a little bit.
It's obvious you're not a UK fan. Why are you here other than to spew your ignorance?
The great Coach K, since being at Duke, has averaged winning 1 championship every 7 years.
Luckily for Duke he has stayed around long enough for that ratio to equal out to 5 titles.
Will Cal stay around at UK that long to do the same? Hmmm
You're absolutely right. They never should have fired Gillispie. We were much better off with him. Or even Tubby.
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What's even more bothersome is you and many others -as you say- are failing to paint the true picture. Anthony Davis scored 6 points on 1 for 10 shooting in the NCAA Championship game. Lamb had 22, Kidd-Gilchrist had 11 and Marquis Teague had 14. It was a TEAM effort but don't let the facts get in the way of an ignorant narrative. You suck.
Give me a phuckin break. In 2010, everyone thought Baylor would work Duke and they'd be out at least by elite 8. Well they win that game and then absolutely trounce the team that beat UK.
This year, UK had a cake walk until the final 4. Kansas was a joke of a 2 seed. Once you get to the final 4 it doesn't matter who you play. And of course, like 2010 Duke beats the team that beat UK. Quit crying and win the thing. If you're the best team then it shouldn't matter who you have to play.
A cakewalk to the final four? Wasn't there some notre dame team in there? How'd Duke fare against them?
Duke played frickin Gonzaga and Michigan state to get to the title. You can have your cake and eat it too.
They beat them by 30 something at home and blew the game on the road. They were a scrappy team of midgets that should have beaten KY. Again just win the thing and quit crying.
Quit bitching and beat the teams in front of you. If you're going to play that game then Duke should have at least two more titles, 99 and 2002. They also chocked away the KY game in 98 and got fouled out of the Uconn game in the final four in 04. Those could be two more titles for K.
I give all the credit in the world to Duke for winning the title this year. They won, Kentucky didn't. But don't say Kentucky got a cakewalk when Duke's road was even easier. By the way, I see that your response was a reply to Cut-Nets. Just FYI, the consensus around here is that he is a whiner that gripes about everything he can in regards to Kentucky basketball, especially our coach. So just understand that his opinion is not that of the majority here.
First 5 Final Fours
Coach K: 1 title (86 88 89 90 91); won his first title in his 10th season at Duke
Coach Cal: 1 title (96 08 11 12 14); won his first title in his 3rd season at UK
The only concern here is Coach Cal's age. As far opportunities-to-date go... advantage Coach Cal.
Coach K: 1 title (86 88 89 90 91); won his first title in his 10th season at Duke
Coach Cal: 1 title (96 08 11 12 14); won his first title in his 3rd season at UK
The only concern here is Coach Cal's age. As far opportunities-to-date go... advantage Coach Cal.
I gotcha I just don't agree. Gonzaga was a better two than Kansas and Iowa St. was a better 3 than ND IMO. It wasn't Duke's fault that Iowa St got upset in the first round. It's the tourney that shit happens. I was scared to death of them and breathed a little easier when they exited.
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Albeit with an ineligible player.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...evils-f-lance-thomas-purchased-100000-jewelry
Lance Thomas purchased five pieces of diamond jewelry at a cost of $97,800 on Dec. 21, 2009, in the middle of his senior season, according the lawsuit. Documents included with the suit indicate he made a $30,000 down payment and received $67,800 in credit from the firm, which caters to professional athletes. The nearly $68,000 balance remains unpaid.
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Oh, Notre dame scared me way more than Kansas did. And Wisconsin was the one team I didn't want to face at all. But it is what it is. We move on to next year where Duke and Kentucky will again both be top 5 teams. We'll see what happens....
Thats a pretty good batting average when you consider the vast amount of schools who are averaging 0 championships in 100 years and the vast amount of coaches who are averaging 0 titles for a career.
All Jahlil Okafor talked about this year was winning a national championship for Duke. Even when he was asked about the draft, he dismissed it and said he would worry about that when the time comes.
As Herm Edwards so eloquently stated years ago.... you play to win the game. If you simply focus on playing good, winning basketball, the draft will take care of itself.
Never said it wasn't. I was referring to the idiot giving Cal a hard time for only winning 1 title in his 6 years at UK.
This is just flat-out not true man. Notre Dame was better than Iowa State. But I would not have been scared at all of Notre Dame had we met them in the NCAA tournament, despite them beating us 2 out of 3 times in the regular season. That's actually WHY I wouldn't have been scared of them. Ain't no way that Notre Dame team would beat Duke 3 out of 4. Much less if one of the games was to get to the Final Four.
I do think it's absolutely ridiculous how much UK fans whine about the "easy road" Duke got to the title this year, but Notre Dame was the best 3-seed in the tournament. Agreed that Kansas was a very weak 2-seed. They weren't even as good as Gonzaga.
Congrats on being my first ignore! Clearly not a UK fan, anything you write is a waste of my time to read.
Lol, clearly he won't win another, clearly... Since he wasn't incredibly close to winning one the last two years! LOL
Get lost
Bringing up the past is pointless. It's done and over with. UK's 2014-2015 team will go down as the best team to not win the tournament. This thread is about the future.
lol, that's your opinion buddy. And if you're proud of having the title of best team not to win it all then, well, congrats.
And for the record, '99 Duke would beat the shit out of '15 Kentucky.
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[QUOTE="Nick Horvath, post:
And for the record, '99 Duke would beat the shit out of '15 Kentucky.[/QUOTE]
The same 99 Duke team that played with an ineligible player?
Former Duke player Corey Maggetteadmitted in a sworn statement he took cash payments from a summer league coach while was still a high school student, school officials announced Tuesday.
Maggette earlier denied accepting money from Myron Piggie, his summer league coach for a Kansas City-based AAU team. Maggette has been subpoenaed by federal prosecutors to testify about the payments. He already testified before a grand jury about Piggie.
The statement Duke received Tuesday was also sent to the U.S. Attorney in Kansas City and to the NCAA, which could order Duke to vacate its runner-up finish in the 1999 NCAA tournament for using an ineligible player.
And for the record, '99 Duke would beat the shit out of '15 Kentucky.[/QUOTE]
The same 99 Duke team that played with an ineligible player?
Former Duke player Corey Maggetteadmitted in a sworn statement he took cash payments from a summer league coach while was still a high school student, school officials announced Tuesday.
Maggette earlier denied accepting money from Myron Piggie, his summer league coach for a Kansas City-based AAU team. Maggette has been subpoenaed by federal prosecutors to testify about the payments. He already testified before a grand jury about Piggie.
The statement Duke received Tuesday was also sent to the U.S. Attorney in Kansas City and to the NCAA, which could order Duke to vacate its runner-up finish in the 1999 NCAA tournament for using an ineligible player.
It is what it is. I'm happy enough being the fan of the team with the most wins in college basketball history; the No. 1 college basketball program of all-time.
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So I'm genuinely curious. What would you have the Kentucky basketball program do? Should they have continued getting no further than the elite 8 with Tubby? You obviously think Cal is the wrong man for the job. Should they have given Gillispie more time? Or if not, who SHOULD they have hired instead of Calipari? Should they fire him now? If so who should they hire that would guarantee 2 or more titles in the next 6 years?
If you're talking to Cut-Nets, he rather Bruce Pearl be here. He's a Calipari hater.
Any stiff confined behind their computer could tell you that you can't complain about this program and where we are. I like where the program is now. Who wouldn't like Final Fours virtually every year? I just question Cal's ability to win it all when we are at the end. I know we won in 2012 but we had the #1 and #2 overall draft picks (one of which is a transcendent star for the ages it appears) and still slowed it down and pulled on the reins at the end of that game (requiring MKG and Davis to make game-saving plays). Cal is 1/6 in final fours. I feel like he gets very tight in big games when he is the favorite and somehow finds a way to squander it away as evidenced by his Memphis team that lost to Kansas, and more recently the game last season against Wisconsin when we had 3 shot clock violations. Some guys have that way about them that they tighten up ah-lah Jean Van de Velde at the 1999 British Open. I didn't feel this way before 2014. I felt like Cal's decision to not go zone against Uconn until very late was a bad one and it shocked me considering UL zoned them and blasted them by 30+ just a few weeks prior. It showed me his stubbornness, even in the face of a loss. Then this year against Wisconsin when he said they didn't watch film on Wisconsin and he refused to call a timeout to steady the team after the first two shot-clock violations. Thats bad coaching. But as others have pointed out, being in the hunt is a great place to be, I'm just not as confident that it will equate to bringing home the whole enchilada based on the previous examples I have given. Can Cal get the talent? Absolutely and he has proven it over and over. Can he win big games? Yes, he beat Ohio St and Carolina……as the underdog. Can we get to the final four? Obviously we can. Will we win the whole thing? I really hope so.
Some decent points in there. I don't disagree with all of them. Has he made some mistakes in big games? Absolutely. Believe me, I'm as torn up as anyone about going 38-1 this year and losing the championship last year. But 1 championship in 6 years is a better ratio than any coach at Kentucky ever. Better than Pitino, Hall, and yes, Rupp. We've got plenty of time to get to more final 4's and he's got time to learn from his mistakes. If we're in the hunt like this every single year, that means we are an elite program and much luck is always needed to bring home a championship. But I truly believe more will follow.
I agree and I can get behind that. I should be more appreciative of the fact that we are squarely in the hunt every single year. Its truly rare. But with the players Cal brings in I expect to be in the hunt. He gets the best players every single year.
Granted having the best freshmen doesn't always equate to having the best team, but I feel like with the players he brings in, "being in the hunt" is the expectation. Yes his 1 title in 6 years is better than Pitino, Hall, and yes Rupp……..but did those coaches have the best incoming freshmen every single year like Cal? So say again, when you recruit the best players to your program every year, shouldn't "being in the hunt" be simply the expectation?
Got to give you credit, you are not a homer fan, you tell it the way you see it. Thats how I am
Eh, Pitino was 1/6 if you want to be fair about it. I agree with your point though overall.
