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Why UK needs Lane Kiffin! And he needs UK?

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Think about getting an YOUNG UP AND COMING offensive coordinator that has been apart of 2 different championship programs with Hall of Fame coaches and also has NFL coaching experience. And think about if that young coordinator also has head coaching experience and does not need on the job training? Kiffin only 41 years old now, look at all he accomplished in just his 30's

Kiffin has 5 years of head coaching at big time programs and never once had a losing season. Also, he has NFL head coaching experience. He was on Pete Carroll's staff during the USC glory days. And now, he's under Saban in another dynasty program.

AND HE'S ONLY 41 years old. He took over USC and had to deal with the scholarship reduction and he never really got to coach a team with his talent. He did have a great 10-2 team when he had a somewhat full roster of players with upperclassmen. The probation sanctions gives him good experience dealing with the adversity he would certainly face here. He proved at both spots he could recruit at a high level. Has west coast and southeastern recruiting experience(came in and took Lamar Dawson from UK).

The USC thing wasn't a big deal because of the probation...and I mean he was only 39 when he lost that job. And that 52-3 spanking week 1 showed that it wasn't a Kiffin problem at USC. Look at the dimensions he has added to the Bama offense the last 2 seasons.

Mark Stoops showed that UK is a job with potential. The facilities are nicer, coaches are paid well, and recruits will come here to play.

Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach UK needs. He has the experience needed, NO ON THE JOB TRAINING. He has a personality that can create energy and buzz around the program. He is a brilliant offensive mind. UK is an SEC job that will give him the chance to do what he wants and give him money to bring in a good staff with the connections he has made and from people who knew his father. Bigger programs may not take a chance right now, and UK needs a big time name with potential. He needs a program like UK and UK needs a coach like Kiffin.

Now, Stoops may get it done...but that is my sales pitch for Mr. Kiffin if they do not make a bowl this year. I think with Barker, Boom, and the other talented playmakers...next year may be a waste if there is not a coaching staff that can get it done...and then they'll all start graduating and UK is back to square 1.

Fire Away, discuss!
 
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Think about how he has left every program in ruins when he leaves. He's arrogant, and has been handed job after job because of his dad. Oh, he basically runs USC into the ground and what's he get for it? The OC job at Bama. Where he's caused small problems but Saban has been able to keep him under control. There's other options that aren't as risky. No thanks to hiring a failed head coach who's now a coordinator.
 
Would have to put in a 90 million dollar buyout to keep him but that's just 20% of the budget so it's doable .
 
Think about how he has left every program in ruins when he leaves. He's arrogant, and has been handed job after job because of his dad. Oh, he basically runs USC into the ground and what's he get for it? The OC job at Bama. Where he's caused small problems but Saban has been able to keep him under control. There's other options that aren't as risky. No thanks to hiring a failed head coach who's now a coordinator.
While you make good points, I do believe being under the great nick Saban has brought him down a level or two
 
Think about how he has left every program in ruins when he leaves. He's arrogant, and has been handed job after job because of his dad. Oh, he basically runs USC into the ground and what's he get for it? The OC job at Bama. Where he's caused small problems but Saban has been able to keep him under control. There's other options that aren't as risky. No thanks to hiring a failed head coach who's now a coordinator.
The Tennessee thing was bad yes, but he was a 35 year old that was offered to go coach at the GOLD STANDARD PROGRAM (at the time) in college football. Also not even just the program, a place he coached for years and also lived in California and out west for a while. I do not blame him for that at all looking at the whole situation. Most 34-35 year olds are never pegged to be coaches of big time programs..unless they have a special quality.

Exactly how did he leave USC in ruins?

He takes over USC and they cannot go to a bowl for 2 seasons. Also, his first 3 years they had a loss of 30 scholarship players over that period from the scandal. Yeah...that's his fault they were in ruins.


But hey, go for the LESS RISKY option that UK has opted for the last 50+ years.
 
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Whats great about Alabama or Nick Saben is that they hired him as the OC and avoid getting stuck like LSU. Not sure Kiffen has the overall acumen to be a HC. I do like that he has some juice to back him up but at the end of the day you gotta really know what your doing especially at UK. We are bad and its gonna take someone with some real experience.

I come back to this over and over again. UK football has got to find a damn identity!!!!
 
If you paid attention to what he did to Tennessee you might feel differently. He has never left a program in better shape than it was when he got there. During the 2012 season, Kiffin became the first coach since 1964 to take the pre-season #1 ranked team to unranked by the end of the season.

It's easy to look good when you have more talent available to you than anyone else like what he is working with at Alabama.

Kiffin's ego is way, way, way too big to ever accept the coaching job at UK.
 
Think about getting an YOUNG UP AND COMING offensive coordinator that has been apart of 2 different championship programs with Hall of Fame coaches and also has NFL coaching experience. And think about if that young coordinator also has head coaching experience and does not need on the job training? Kiffin only 41 years old now, look at all he accomplished in just his 30's

Kiffin has 5 years of head coaching at big time programs and never once had a losing season. Also, he has NFL head coaching experience. He was on Pete Carroll's staff during the USC glory days. And now, he's under Saban in another dynasty program.

AND HE'S ONLY 41 years old. He took over USC and had to deal with the scholarship reduction and he never really got to coach a team with his talent. He did have a great 10-2 team when he had a somewhat full roster of players with upperclassmen. The probation sanctions gives him good experience dealing with the adversity he would certainly face here. He proved at both spots he could recruit at a high level. Has west coast and southeastern recruiting experience(came in and took Lamar Dawson from UK).

The USC thing wasn't a big deal because of the probation...and I mean he was only 39 when he lost that job. And that 52-3 spanking week 1 showed that it wasn't a Kiffin problem at USC. Look at the dimensions he has added to the Bama offense the last 2 seasons.

Mark Stoops showed that UK is a job with potential. The facilities are nicer, coaches are paid well, and recruits will come here to play.

Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach UK needs. He has the experience needed, NO ON THE JOB TRAINING. He has a personality that can create energy and buzz around the program. He is a brilliant offensive mind. UK is an SEC job that will give him the chance to do what he wants and give him money to bring in a good staff with the connections he has made and from people who knew his father. Bigger programs may not take a chance right now, and UK needs a big time name with potential. He needs a program like UK and UK needs a coach like Kiffin.

Now, Stoops may get it done...but that is my sales pitch for Mr. Kiffin if they do not make a bowl this year. I think with Barker, Boom, and the other talented playmakers...next year may be a waste if there is not a coaching staff that can get it done...and then they'll all start graduating and UK is back to square 1.

Fire Away, discuss!

How old is Kiffin and how much on-the-job training would he need?

BTW, no coach should count on Stanley being here next year.
 
1. He'd never come here. 2. If you think Bobby Petrino is an a-hole, just wait for Kiffin. He's 1000x the a-hole. 3. If his name was Lane Smith, he'd never have gotten the jobs he has now. 4. He's never proven be a terribly effective head coach anywhere (a 8-5 and a 10-2, but we all know how that ended). 5. He's a-holed his way out of every job he's ever had... he even out a-holed Al "the original a-hole" Davis.

I've espoused how we need to think outside the box, but let's not think this far.
 
If you paid attention to what he did to Tennessee you might feel differently. He has never left a program in better shape than it was when he got there. During the 2012 season, Kiffin became the first coach since 1964 to take the pre-season #1 ranked team to unranked by the end of the season.

30 Scholarship losses in his first 3 seasons...I would think that would catch up around his 3rd and 4th season. I really do not think you can blame him for leaving USC in ruins. Heck, he never even had a losing record at USC.

If he is so bad and his ego is out of control...why would Saban (the greatest coach in modern history) choose him to be his offensive coordinator? His daddy did not hand him that job..and Alabama's offense won them a national championship last season, not their usual vaunted defense. Saban would not let someones daddy dictate who he hires...he obviously saw the potential Al Davis, Pete Carroll, Tennessee, and USC saw when they hired him as well in his 30's.

Take the risk, might as well try for a homerun because the safe bet will be more of the same.
 
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The Tennessee thing was bad yes, but he was a 35 year old that was offered to go coach at the GOLD STANDARD PROGRAM (at the time) in college football. Also not even just the program, a place he coached for years and also lived in California and out west for a while. I do not blame him for that at all looking at the whole situation. Most 34-35 year olds are never pegged to be coaches of big time programs..unless they have a special quality.

Exactly how did he leave USC in ruins?

He takes over USC and they cannot go to a bowl for 2 seasons. Also, his first 3 years they had a loss of 30 scholarship players over that period from the scandal. Yeah...that's his fault they were in ruins.


But hey, go for the LESS RISKY option that UK has opted for the last 50+ years.

He cheated his butt off at Tennesee. There were rumors he was cheating his butt off at USC. That was why he was fired on the Tarmac. It wasn't because he went 3-2 to start the season. It was because rumors were already starting to circulate that he was dirty and since USC had just spent the better part of the decade laughing at the NCAA with Pete Carrol at the helm, I'm guessing Hayden didn't want to get the death penalty. SO if he has to cheat at UT and USC, what are the chances, he's going to not cheat at UK. So no thanks.
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Remember when Rich Brooks said be patient because the scholarship ban was holding him back...and we thought he just was a bad coach? Remember that scholarship ban resulting in losses to Ohio and ending Vandy's losing streak? And then once the scholarship ban ended UK was respectable again?

Quit ignoring he inherited a program on probation and lost 30 scholarships in his first 3 seasons. By his last year, he had sophomore, junior, and senior classes that were not full player. They did not have depth in a very tough Pac 12 conference. His 2nd season when he had an intact roster with junior and senior classes that did not have scholarship reductions, his team went 10-2.


So right now, the argument against Kiffin
1. He did not do well at USC. A program that lost 30 scholarships in his first 3 years.
2. His daddy got him all of his jobs...but yet Pete Carroll and Nick Saban obviously trusted him enough to put them on their staffs in high positions...
3. He's a jerk with an ego. Let's go get Joker back then.
 
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Think about getting an YOUNG UP AND COMING offensive coordinator that has been apart of 2 different championship programs with Hall of Fame coaches and also has NFL coaching experience. And think about if that young coordinator also has head coaching experience and does not need on the job training? Kiffin only 41 years old now, look at all he accomplished in just his 30's

Kiffin has 5 years of head coaching at big time programs and never once had a losing season. Also, he has NFL head coaching experience. He was on Pete Carroll's staff during the USC glory days. And now, he's under Saban in another dynasty program.

AND HE'S ONLY 41 years old. He took over USC and had to deal with the scholarship reduction and he never really got to coach a team with his talent. He did have a great 10-2 team when he had a somewhat full roster of players with upperclassmen. The probation sanctions gives him good experience dealing with the adversity he would certainly face here. He proved at both spots he could recruit at a high level. Has west coast and southeastern recruiting experience(came in and took Lamar Dawson from UK).

The USC thing wasn't a big deal because of the probation...and I mean he was only 39 when he lost that job. And that 52-3 spanking week 1 showed that it wasn't a Kiffin problem at USC. Look at the dimensions he has added to the Bama offense the last 2 seasons.

Mark Stoops showed that UK is a job with potential. The facilities are nicer, coaches are paid well, and recruits will come here to play.

Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach UK needs. He has the experience needed, NO ON THE JOB TRAINING. He has a personality that can create energy and buzz around the program. He is a brilliant offensive mind. UK is an SEC job that will give him the chance to do what he wants and give him money to bring in a good staff with the connections he has made and from people who knew his father. Bigger programs may not take a chance right now, and UK needs a big time name with potential. He needs a program like UK and UK needs a coach like Kiffin.

Now, Stoops may get it done...but that is my sales pitch for Mr. Kiffin if they do not make a bowl this year. I think with Barker, Boom, and the other talented playmakers...next year may be a waste if there is not a coaching staff that can get it done...and then they'll all start graduating and UK is back to square 1.

Fire Away, discuss!

Kiffin would destroy our program more than it is now.

Anyone on this board could've put up great offensive numbers calling plays for the talent at USC and Alabama. Look at Alabama's offensive production pre-Kiffin and you'll see that it's about the same.

He won 7 games his one year at Tennessee. His roster included three top 15 classes, including one top 3, and he lost 6 games (should've lost to us.) Their cupboard wasn't bare until Dooley emptied it.

Ogeron and Sarkasian immediately won with the depleted USC roster after Kiffin left.

So, we have a guy who bombed in the NFL, mediocre at UT, bombed at southern cal but put up great numbers as a coordinator for two of the most talent rich programs ever assembled. He has done nothing to indicate that he would be successful at Kentucky.
 
UK is a coach killer right now. No way on Kiffin. It will either be some FCS type HC or an Art Briles type (someone with baggage) who would end up with the job. It has to be a HC as a hire to stabilize the program not another clueless coordinator. No way in hell kiffin would even sniff the job if it came open. He's waiting for Les miles to go to make that bama v LSU a blockbuster game
 
He won 7 games his one year at Tennessee. His roster included three top 15 classes, including one top 3, and he lost 6 games (should've lost to us.) Their cupboard wasn't bare until Dooley emptied it.

Ogeron and Sarkasian immediately won with the depleted USC roster after Kiffin left.
Sarkasian won 9 games with Kiff's roster..Kiff won 10 games with Pete's roster. USC lost 30 scholarship players in his first 3 recruiting classes. He did not get a chance.

Tennessee went 5-7 in Fulmer's last season, went 7-6 with Kiffin in the 34 year olds first college job, and went 6-7 the year after. 3 coaches with the same talent...Kiffin had the best record

He bombed with the Raiders...lol I do not think you can call him failed with the Raiders. He was a 33 year old in his first job, WITH THE WORST franchise in the NFL. How many different coaches have they had during the last 15 years...how many losing seasons in a row have they had during that time? Failed NFL coach, not really.
 
30 Scholarship losses in his first 3 seasons...I would think that would catch up around his 3rd and 4th season. I really do not think you can blame him for leaving USC in ruins. Heck, he never even had a losing record at USC.

If he is so bad and his ego is out of control...why would Saban (the greatest coach in modern history) choose him to be his offensive coordinator? His daddy did not hand him that job..and Alabama's offense won them a national championship last season, not their usual vaunted defense. Saban would not let someones daddy dictate who he hires...he obviously saw the potential Al Davis, Pete Carroll, Tennessee, and USC saw when they hired him as well in his 30's.

Take the risk, might as well try for a homerun because the safe bet will be more of the same.
USC was preseason #1 and became team turmoil pretty quickly. After he was fired mid season the team got better under Ed Orgeron...and he was a horrible HC at Ole Miss. If USC saw him as so great, why did they pull the trigger on him so quickly?

Being a good OC(or DC) doesn't make you a good HC. Do we really need to be reminded of that fact? Knowing football and being able to manage a team are completely different animals. Great coaches could coach any sport because the have the organizational skills to do so.

...and how many NFL draft picks does he have to work with at Alabama? The Heisman Trophy winner...remember what UK did with Artose Pinner, Moe Williams...they weren't as good as Henry but they were good enough that defenses had to account for them which opens up the passing game.

What he did when he left UT was he encouraged all of his recruits to follow him to USC...and several did leaving UT up a creek late in the recruiting process.
 
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He cheated his butt off at Tennesee. There were rumors he was cheating his butt off at USC. That was why he was fired on the Tarmac. It wasn't because he went 3-2 to start the season. It was because rumors were already starting to circulate that he was dirty and since USC had just spent the better part of the decade laughing at the NCAA with Pete Carrol at the helm, I'm guessing Hayden didn't want to get the death penalty. SO if he has to cheat at UT and USC, what are the chances, he's going to not cheat at UK. So no thanks.
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Don't forget he is divorced which is the moral deal breaker for me :bomb:
 
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Sarkasian won 9 games with Kiff's roster..Kiff won 10 games with Pete's roster. USC lost 30 scholarship players in his first 3 recruiting classes. He did not get a chance.

Tennessee went 5-7 in Fulmer's last season, went 7-6 with Kiffin in the 34 year olds first college job, and went 6-7 the year after. 3 coaches with the same talent...Kiffin had the best record

He bombed with the Raiders...lol I do not think you can call him failed with the Raiders. He was a 33 year old in his first job, WITH THE WORST franchise in the NFL. How many different coaches have they had during the last 15 years...how many losing seasons in a row have they had during that time? Failed NFL coach, not really.

You've listed every excuse for him and not one indicates why he would be successful here.

Fulmers 5-7 season followed a 10 win/SEC championship game appearance. He had recruited a solid team. Shoot, Dooley won one game less than Kiffin his first year. Maybe we should call him?

Kiffins last USC team appeared to quit on him as they won some games under the interim coach and continued winning afterwards, despite a depleted roster.

Kiffins offensive strategy at Alabama is about being more talented than the opponent. I've been using the WKU game as an example bc it really showed this. WKU was routinely in place to make a stop but lost out to athletic ability.
 
I heard Finebaum last year say Kiffen could thrive at a place like Kentucky. FB said pressure low compared to Tenn and USC. Have UK Bowling every year, and hit 8-4 mark in real good years.
 
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Would have to put in a 90 million dollar buyout to keep him but that's just 20% of the budget so it's doable .
Still mad? Stoops buyout os still just 3to 4% of the yearly budget and still very doable. So be mad, facts don't change.
 
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I heard Finebaum last year say Kiffen could thrive at a place like Kentucky. FB said pressure low compared to Tenn and USC. Have UK Bowling every year, and hit 8-4 mark in real good years.
i think the risk is everywhere he's been was an elite driven school - maybe not elite at the time, but that's the goal so the resources were there and the administrations were filled with football people that understood how to help the HC. Our HC will be more on an island with much more limited resources and know how for things off the field available to him. I think that's part of why stoops is struggling. part of.
 
I'm laughing still at all of these insignificant buyouts , who new they were puny .

Yep, 3-4% is a relative term. If I have $100 and someone asks for $3-4, I'd probably give it to them. If I have $100k and someone asked for $3-4k, I'd tell them to pound sand.
 
Said this in a previous thread but I'll repeat.

I like Kiffin but I don't think he's a good fit here at all.

He's a strict west coast/pro style offense guy. Those offenses RARELY work well in college unless you have a ton of offensive talent.

There is a reason most smaller programs don't run a pro style offense.

If there was ever a school that needed a "system coach" it's Kentucky.

Kiffin does not fit that bill at all imo.
 
Said this in a previous thread but I'll repeat.

I like Kiffin but I don't think he's a good fit here at all.

He's a strict west coast/pro style offense guy. Those offenses RARELY work well in college unless you have a ton of offensive talent.

There is a reason most smaller programs don't run a pro style offense.

If there was ever a school that needed a "system coach" it's Kentucky.

Kiffin does not fit that bill at all imo.

He runs a spread uptempo offense at Bama. Sabah brought him in to run that type of offense.
 
He's running a pro style offense with some spread sets in there to be sure. But it's still the old Norm Chow pro system.

Saban said he hired Kiffin because he was the best pro style coach available when he hired him.
 
He's running a pro style offense with some spread sets in there to be sure. But it's still the old Norm Chow pro system.

Saban said he hired Kiffin because he was the best pro style coach available when he hired him.

We can call it whatever we want. Point still stands that he's a top 10 offensive mind in football.

I just don't get why people don't want him.

He's cocky, a fantastic offensive mind, big time name, been coaching a long time and been successful and he's got that edge to him. Every time out he wants to win by 50.

That sounds like EXACTLY what we need.
 
Art Briles now Lane Kiffin..I guess some want to reach as far down in the gutter to grab the next UK FB. If and when Stoops is ever let go and Mitch Barnhart even brings Art Briles on campus for an interview, I will take every UK item I own, throw them in my back yard fire pit and torch each piece. I could give a damn what kind of offense he runs, this guy is lower than a snakes belly and Lane Kiffin is not very far from that level.
 
Not to mention, he would probably bring his brother with him who is the DL coach at Ole Miss and a top 10 recruiter in the nation.

Kiffin would be a homerun and I guarantee you he will assemble a fantastic staff that can recruit AND develop.

Lane Kiffin - HC
Steve Sarkisian - OC
Chris Kiffin - DC

Let's ride.
 
Every pro Kiffin post has consisted of excuses as to why he hasn't been a successful head coach and nothing about how he would elevate our program. What has he done to give the impression that he would succeed here? Be a good recruiter/coordinator at a power school? Like stoops?

I hope Stoops turns it around but Kiffin is far from the answer if he doesn't.
 
Every pro Kiffin post has consisted of excuses as to why he hasn't been a successful head coach and nothing about how he would elevate our program. What has he done to give the impression that he would succeed here? Be a good recruiter/coordinator at a power school? Like stoops?

I hope Stoops turns it around but Kiffin is far from the answer if he doesn't.

He's 35-21 in his career as head coach. That's essentially winning two of every three games. Improved a UT team by 3 wins in his first year and brought in a top 10 class. Had USC ranked number 1 in the nation.

UT: 7-6
USCw: 8-5, 10-2, 7-6 all while on probation.

Everyone knows Lane Kiffin's name. People would tune in to watch us just to see how he does. Some people hate him (like most people I've seen on here) and some love him (like myself).
 
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Think about getting an YOUNG UP AND COMING offensive coordinator that has been apart of 2 different championship programs with Hall of Fame coaches and also has NFL coaching experience. And think about if that young coordinator also has head coaching experience and does not need on the job training? Kiffin only 41 years old now, look at all he accomplished in just his 30's

Kiffin has 5 years of head coaching at big time programs and never once had a losing season. Also, he has NFL head coaching experience. He was on Pete Carroll's staff during the USC glory days. And now, he's under Saban in another dynasty program.

AND HE'S ONLY 41 years old. He took over USC and had to deal with the scholarship reduction and he never really got to coach a team with his talent. He did have a great 10-2 team when he had a somewhat full roster of players with upperclassmen. The probation sanctions gives him good experience dealing with the adversity he would certainly face here. He proved at both spots he could recruit at a high level. Has west coast and southeastern recruiting experience(came in and took Lamar Dawson from UK).

The USC thing wasn't a big deal because of the probation...and I mean he was only 39 when he lost that job. And that 52-3 spanking week 1 showed that it wasn't a Kiffin problem at USC. Look at the dimensions he has added to the Bama offense the last 2 seasons.

Mark Stoops showed that UK is a job with potential. The facilities are nicer, coaches are paid well, and recruits will come here to play.

Lane Kiffin is the perfect coach UK needs. He has the experience needed, NO ON THE JOB TRAINING. He has a personality that can create energy and buzz around the program. He is a brilliant offensive mind. UK is an SEC job that will give him the chance to do what he wants and give him money to bring in a good staff with the connections he has made and from people who knew his father. Bigger programs may not take a chance right now, and UK needs a big time name with potential. He needs a program like UK and UK needs a coach like Kiffin.

Now, Stoops may get it done...but that is my sales pitch for Mr. Kiffin if they do not make a bowl this year. I think with Barker, Boom, and the other talented playmakers...next year may be a waste if there is not a coaching staff that can get it done...and then they'll all start graduating and UK is back to square 1.

Fire Away, discuss!

Please list all the 2 and 3 star players that kiffin has coached up to be great players.

Here's a hint, you won't find them.

Now go look at the players that Butch Davis recruited and coached. Remember Clinton Portis? Florida offered him only to play cb.

Kiffin would be a train wreck at UK, I'd rather keep Stoops than hire Kiffin.
 
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