This - as long as he's not expected to be one of our best players he can be a really solid piece.
Why Recruit Karter Knox
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I think we may take a little bit of a step back next year in general but I think shooting will be fine as long as we can snag at least 1 solid portal player that's a capable shooter. Reed and Perry are dead-eye shooters (even though we don't know how good Perry is/how much he'll play yet), so if we combine them with a shooter from the portal, with Fland at least being serviceable, I think that's a solid group. Thiero's shot has improved as well (he'll never be a knockdown shooter but with another season to improve he could be a solid shooter as well).
I do think we'll be able to play the same style we're playing this year with our 4/5 men who can play out on the perimeter (with Somto being a similar player to Ugonna).
We may never see a team that has 3 great shooters as good as Reeves, Dilly, and Reed, but I think we will still be able to play the same way.
Lots of truth here.
He is somebody's son and will be our go to in the crunch. 7/24 from foul line and lose by 1.
Peterson to me is a monk or Murray level scorer and pairing him with fland and maybe Reed if he were to return would be another unstoppable backcourt
Dalton I wished you posted more often
This is the dumbest post I’ve read on here in quite some time.
Some of you Cal haters should really take a break
Certainly, there are many other things that are not only important, but absolutely required to win. Still, I think you and I would agree that 3pt. shooting is crucial because of the relative value of the shot and the impact on the defense (e.g., it spreads the floor for driving lanes). So, everything being equal, the more good perimeter shooting a team can get from all five positions on the floor the better. But you’re right in that if you don’t have good enough rebounding, defense, etc. then 3pt. shooting by itself usually isn’t going to win many games – and will never win 6 games in the Tournament. On the other hand, I think you need 3 pt. shooting from at least 3, and preferably 4, spots on the floor to be good enough.
He is fantastic. The issue is Dad has this vision of him as a PG/ball in hands and what Kentucky preaches and why they are successful with players transitioning to the College level/NBA level is teaching them to play with/without the basketball.
Cal is also well respected by Agents/Shoe Companies because he will not bully a player into signing with Nike just because that's way he makes $. So if Peterson were to choose UK, Adidas knows he'd be their client after he's done at UK while still promoting apparel when not on the court. Thing is they prefer him to be at a flagship program like Kansas (see Andrew Wiggins getting 7 figures as a bonus to choose KU and they had shoe deal ready for him when he went to NBA).
But the amount of Adidas guys who have signed with Kentucky is insane. Dating back to John Wall/Brandon Knight/Bam/Quickley up to Reed Sheppard now. Jayden Quaintance had left Nike for Adidas in Summer and that scared a lot of people too.
if averaging 15 &5 a game on 34% from 3 is disappointing idk what to tell you besides you have zero basketball knowledge
Yeah some of these comments are startling. As a secondary scorer to SGA he was just fine, and even had the big game against WVU. Unless you were expecting him to be Jamal Murray or Monk, I don’t see how he was disappointing.
As for his brother, i don’t know why some act like players don’t improve. I believe it was ralphdalton that pointed out the improvement with Reeves and Dillingham. It’s probably best to let it play out.
Yeah I don't get fox2monk comparing Knox to edwards. Geez, that's insulting to knox.
This is my dream scenario right now.
Sheppard/Fland/Johnson in the backcourt (1-3 spots).
That’s three guys that can handle, shoot, and pass. Smart players as well.
Those three with Perry and Richmond off the bench would be a great backcourt.
The frontcourt is already very solid, with Quaintance/Thiero/Cyril/Burks.
The team just needs Sheppard back and one more wing shooter/scorer to be complete.
Johnson would be perfect.
Peterson would be great, but the Adidas connection keeps me from counting him as a real possibility.
Not a huge Cal supporter these days, no doubt, but I don't "hate" anyone. To use that word with such liberty and indiscretion is just dumb, reckless and f**king stupid and says a lot about IQ, or lack thereof. I care about the Program more than I care about any coach ... always have. Program First.
Me too. He wants to be here one year and only if no one returns or his recruited at his position. Thats per his dad. He can go to G league.
Rob Dillingham is unquestionably one of our best players this year. Last year at OTE he shot 33% from the floor and 31% from 3.
Scout the player not the box score stats of OTE basketball. Hopefully you’ve never wasted time actually watching it.
In some ways he’s a legacy player. If a consensus top 20 prospect that Cal and staff know the family/kid wants to come I’m all for it.
The 3 spot is the most challenging for Cal. A volume play in terms of bodies/talent is a smart play as we’ve seen this year with a struggling Edwards.
Scout the player not the box score stats of OTE basketball. Hopefully you’ve never wasted time actually watching it.
In some ways he’s a legacy player. If a consensus top 20 prospect that Cal and staff know the family/kid wants to come I’m all for it.
The 3 spot is the most challenging for Cal. A volume play in terms of bodies/talent is a smart play as we’ve seen this year with a struggling Edwards.
His stats compare favorably to Rob Dillingham's HS stats. A crap shooting % was the knock on Dillingham.
RR's 2 biggest skills: 1) drawing sweeping conclusions from tiny data sets and 2) believing the loudest voice.
Maybe the difference is Welch. We even run inbounds plays under the basket now.
Maybe if we’re stuck with Cal he can hire a defensive minded coach to make us solid at both ends for times we lack multiple shooters.
The more Cal can stay out of the way it increases our chance of winning.
Maybe if we’re stuck with Cal he can hire a defensive minded coach to make us solid at both ends for times we lack multiple shooters.
The more Cal can stay out of the way it increases our chance of winning.
Pretty sure Kevin Knox was first team all-SEC as the youngest freshman in all of college basketball.
It might be a good idea to save that spot for a transfer who has experience and great shooter.
Just guessing, but with the returning players I think UK could still have 2-3 spots for the transfer portal if they wanted to use them. The issue at that point is to get the best transfer available and not avoid going hard after the best transfers regardless of what high school recruit has committed. I think 2Gs & SFs are particularly strong positions usually available in the portal.
"Fland is a skilled guard whose biggest asset is his ability to shoot the basketball."
-- 247sports
He reminds me of Dillingham.
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At the City of Palms tournament, he routinely split defenders or if closely guarded at the 3 pt line, he'd back up and shoot further.
He made a believer of me. Granted these are highlights, but there were several clips where 4 players had a shot at stopping him. And didn't. He really is like Dillingham and Wagner in that regard.
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Don’t try and moderate my language with your own woke vocabulary. I hate that
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Didn’t you read Daltons post above about Adidas? We’ve had a bunch of players sign with Adidas and come here and he listed a few including Reed.
We get Knox, we still need an another shooter on the wing like Johnson or Peterson. Still plenty of room, IMHO.
9-man rotation
Sheppard
Johnson or Peterson
Knox
Thiero
Quaintance
Fland
Richmond
Cyril
Burks
Then you’ve also got Perry, if you need more guard depth.
And if Sheppard leaves, you still have Fland, Johnson or Peterson, and Perry as pure guards. Also might sign a portal guard for experience, if Shep leaves.
9-man rotation
Sheppard
Johnson or Peterson
Knox
Thiero
Quaintance
Fland
Richmond
Cyril
Burks
Then you’ve also got Perry, if you need more guard depth.
And if Sheppard leaves, you still have Fland, Johnson or Peterson, and Perry as pure guards. Also might sign a portal guard for experience, if Shep leaves.
I would be very happy with those numbers. There was just some inconsistency from Kevin. We all expected him to dominate. Still a very solid player don’t get me wrong.
Yes, but I still have doubts. He also said Adidas would probably rather him go to KU.
Be nice to have a defender like him this year. He could really help us, especially on drives to the basket. I hope our offense stays elite but that we improve on defense a bit.
I dont think the adidas connection is as strong as it seems. I think Kentucky can get Peterson and will go all out to get him
Hope you are right, he would be a good get.
Like I said, we need to add Johnson or Peterson as a reclass, IMHO.
I would take either one. Peterson is ranked higher, but Johnson isn’t that far behind him, and he is a Kentucky kid and a legacy.
I’d take whichever one wants it first.
Miss on both, Cal needs to make the top SG in the portal his top priority.
Hate seems to be a word you obsess over ... but who am I to take issue with you about it ... just an observation but that's on you. LOL ... I'm about as far from "woke" as anyone on the planet. Regarding me trying to "moderate" your language ... I wouldn't do that because, you're entitled to your opinion, just like everyone else. You can say what you want ... it's just an opinion until you try to label others in a vile way and do so indiscriminately, for having a different take from your own. PROGRAM FIRST.
Ideally we get Peterson as the transcendent reclass, and Johnson stays with his current class.
Then Sheppard, Edwards, Onyenso, Burks, Hart, and Thiero return.
Landing Knox right now probably forces Edwards to go pro no matter what because we'd have Edwards, Richmond, Burks, Thiero, and Knox at the 3/4.
That's too many mouths to feed. I hope Knox waits until the spring to see what happens with Justin Edwards.
Edwards will not be back. No way. Isn’t happening. I’ve seen this movie too many times before. We all know how it ends.
My scenario (adding Knox and either Johnson or Peterson) is the most likely to happen.
It is possible Onyenso returns, though. If he does, I think Burks could bolt. There’s not enough minutes in the frontcourt for both.
Quaintance/Thiero/Onyenso/Cyril will be our 4-5 rotation.
Sheppard/Johnson or Peterson/Knox/Fland/Richmond will be our 1-3 rotation.
That’s the 9-man rotation.
Yeah I'm done with these tweeners with minimal basketball skill. They never stay here long enough to develop, so what's the point?
