Why is UL ranked ahead of UK?

[CondorCat]

They earned some (undeserved) respect last year in a weak ACC.

They came into the UK game ranked #9 with a 10-1 record and a win over Notre Dame. Then the wheels came off losing the Governor's Cup, ACC Championship game, and Holiday Bowl.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Talk is Brohm > White and Hamdan combined.

 

[VikingCat21]

For those correctly pointing out UL's cupcake schedule, you also have to realize the 3 "good" teams on their schedule are 3 of the perennially most overrated teams each year. Clemson, ND, and Miami haven't been good in a while but always get the preseason hype.

 

[satcheluk]

Then why do sec teams with more losses get a higher final regular season playoff seed then 1 loss teams from pac10, Big12 or Acc?

Uk has won the UL game 6 of last 7 times…and many of those have been blood baths for Uk. Yo has had I’d argue 3 disappointing seasons going into UL snd whooped them even when a poor season was behind them

Why we’d not be favored when we bring back a ton more is beyond reason

Polls don't seed the CFP, a committee does and they heavily weigh strength of schedule, home vs road wins, squeakers vs blow outs and even if key players were out due to injury and whether that helped with an upset win or caused an upset loss. Pre season polls have no parameters, so some people vote on who they think would win a neutral site game one and others vite as to which team they feel will finish the season higher or lower. Without parameters, they ar emeaningless preseason discussion topics.

 

[Tf2217]

To the average person I could make the argument that we play a hell of a lot tougher schedule than they do, and thus looking at it from the outside you could easily come up with the theory that UL will win quite a few games. If you win games you're ranked.

It's a take that makes sense if you completely ignore the fact that we smack them back to reality every year. There's a reason the 6-6/7-5 SEC gets the 2nd or 3rd ACC team in the music City bowl. Because #2 in the SEC is bama. The #2 team in the ACC is who Clemson? GA Tech? Miami? UNC? 🥱🥱🥱. We should've beat Clemson (don't deserve to beat anyone while committing 4 straight turnovers) I don't think they wanted UGA, LSU or anyone like that

Oh well let them have their cupcakes and good record I like smacking around top 10 teams.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Louisville and Kentucky is a weird series. One team dominates 5 yrs and then the other for five years. I’m not counting them out because they really closed the gap on us last year. I think it may be another shootout.

It's not out of the norm for 1 team to have dominate stretches in a rivalry. Now the 5 year stretch is a little short because several have 20 year stretches before it turns.

 

[The Snoke]

Easy to explain, people think UL will have a better record than us because UL plays in the ACC. We have a MUCH tougher schedule. Teams are ranked on Wins not talent. They think UL will have more wins in 2024 than UK. The folks ranking teams probably don't know or care that UL is on our schedule.

This! It’s this way most every preseason.

 

[hmt5000]

It's not out of the norm for 1 team to have dominate stretches in a rivalry. Now the 5 year stretch is a little short because several have 20 year stretches before it turns.

Oh we know those too. LOL.

 

[hmt5000]

It's not out of the norm for 1 team to have dominate stretches in a rivalry. Now the 5 year stretch is a little short because several have 20 year stretches before it turns.

But to be fair... UK vs ul is less competitive if you take out the probation and self impose Joker probation. Outside of those 2 time frames we have dominated ul.

 

[rockycard]

But to be fair... UK vs ul is less competitive if you take out the probation and self impose Joker probation. Outside of those 2 time frames we have dominated ul.

Louisville won 8 out of 10 while in CUSA and the Big East. We should’ve won last year but didn’t, yet you think that joker years shouldn’t count but Satterfield and Petrino ( who quit coaching when Jurich was fired) should count? Lol

 

[hmt5000]

Louisville won 8 out of 10 while in CUSA and the Big East. We should’ve won last year but didn’t, yet you think that joker years shouldn’t count but Satterfield and Petrino ( who quit coaching when Jurich was fired) should count? Lol

That would be an awesome argument if we weren't beating your ass by over 100 points the last 5 years.

 

[The-Hack]

We played a New Years Day bowl

Huh? I know you were hypothetically speaking as a Card fan as though they had not played us (and lost) but what New Year’s bowl did they play in?

Perhaps you are carrying your hypothetical to an extreme and assuming the Cards would have played on New Year’s Day had they not lost to Kentucky?

Mmmm. Not so sure had they still lost in that beat down to FSU.

 

[The-Hack]

Talk is Brohm > White and Hamdan combined.

Lol.

My Daddy could whip their Daddy’s combined!!

 

[The-Hack]

We should’ve won last year but didn’t

I would like to add to this brilliant sports analysis!

I rewatched last year’s game.

My observations:

We were behind until we were ahead.

We shouldn’t have been behind when we were, but we were.

Had we not scored on a 7 play one-minute drive, averaging over ten yards a play, we might have lost.

 

[CRZ4UK]

Huh? I know you were hypothetically speaking as a Card fan as though they had not played us (and lost) but what New Year’s bowl did they play in?

Perhaps you are carrying your hypothetical to an extreme and assuming the Cards would have played on New Year’s Day had they not lost to Kentucky?

Mmmm. Not so sure had they still lost in that beat down to FSU.

My bad. If I’m wrong it’s from memory. I thought after playing for the ACC championship they got a NYD bowl. Maybe they didn’t because Florida St. got left out of the playoffs and that took theirs away. My bad. Again.

 

[The-Hack]

My bad. Again.

Well, taking your hypo to the end, had the Cards played a G5 pillow fight, instead of Kentucky, and won their 11th game, they would have entered the ACC title game ranked, maybe 8th or 9th, and even with a loss to FSU they might still have snuck into the NYD6 Bowls . . . .

So in any given season, your analysis holds some water: if the Cards don’t play us and stack up double-digit wins, they crow like Redbirds on steroids “that UK is lucky they didn’t have to play us.”

The Holiday Bowl had a good opponent for U of L, and a pretty good payout, but was played on December 27, 2023.

2023 Holiday Bowl - Wikipedia

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[The-Hack]

Maybe they didn’t because Florida St. got left out of the playoffs and that took theirs away.

Actually, that is right. I think the Cards had some chance of the Orange Bowl but FSU got knocked out of the 4 team playoff, backed up to fill the Orange slot.

Had we not beaten them, and FSU smashed them, they might have snuck into the Top 12?!?!?

 

[CRZ4UK]

Well, taking your hypo to the end, had the Cards played a G5 pillow fight, instead of Kentucky, and won their 11th game, they would have entered the ACC title game ranked, maybe 8th or 9th, and even with a loss to FSU they might still have snuck into the NYD6 Bowls . . . .

So in any given season, your analysis holds some water: if the Cards don’t play us and stack up double-digit wins, they crow like Redbirds on steroids “that UK is lucky they didn’t have to play us.”

The Holiday Bowl had a good opponent for U of L, and a pretty good payout, but was played on December 27, 2023.

2023 Holiday Bowl - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Pretty sad you play for your conference championship and don’t get a NYD bowl.
But I guess being undefeated and not getting into the playoffs may be worse.
That league should be removed as a power 5.

 

[The-Hack]

That league should be removed as a power 5.

The simple truth of college football: it is dominated by the SEC, with only the Big Ten as a “near peer,” and two or three other teams, nationally, that occasionally measure up.

With a 12 team playoff, unless they put all SEC teams on one side of the “bracket,” there will be years (likely most years) that an SEC team beats another SEC for the title. And 3 of 4 finalists will be SEC teams in many seasons.

 

[Deeeefense]

I would like to add to this brilliant sports analysis!

I rewatched last year’s game.

My observations:

We were behind until we were ahead.

We shouldn’t have been behind when we were, but we were.

Had we not scored on a 7 play one-minute drive, averaging over ten yards a play, we might have lost.

👍
The three precepts of the proverbial loser - coulda, woulda and shoulda

 

[YaketySax]

Not the best one. F+:

BCF Toys - 2024 F+ Ratings

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UK 26th. UofL 28th.

 

[CRZ4UK]

Louisville won 8 out of 10 while in CUSA and the Big East. We should’ve won last year but didn’t, yet you think that joker years shouldn’t count but Satterfield and Petrino ( who quit coaching when Jurich was fired) should count? Lol

Pitrino created the Kragthorpe years. That’s what you guys bury your heads in the sand about. That roster was so unbalanced he knew the wheels were about to fall off. A lot of coaches could have won in conference USA and beaten a UK team on probation if they sold their soul to win Now and unbalanced the roster that far.

When pitrino left the first time, he had 8 QBs returning, 25 wide receivers, 9 running backs and 8 offensive and defensive linemen. He used up all the defensive players eligibility in 4 years to put together an offense.
Bobby didn’t quit on the team because Jurich was fired his second stint. He Quit because the roster was in the same shape as last time and was gonna completely implode the next year with or without him. He’ll, it imploded before he quit.
He gave you 4 good years, but destroyed the program for a decade.
Without Lucking into 3 star Lamar, it would have imploded faster.
Why do you feel you should have won ? I thought the final score solves all that? We were up 21 when Lamar came in and saved that year. Should we have won that year. Lamar fumbled the next, leading to a winning FG. Should you have won that one.
Winning is the final score, that’s 5 straight years the score has said we won.
You should not have won, because you lost.