Name the facts that are wrong, most of them came from UK budgets, etc at the time. What has Tubman and Joker's situation got to do with the situation, what is it that I should have to refute? My facts were not defending Joker, and no, I did not say that Joker would have been (or should have been) allowed to stay, maybe two NONE CONFERENCE wins can be defended when rebuilding (Claiborne had zero his first year and led us to a much rarer bowl game after that) but not when you are coming off bowl seasons------and I think he lost a lot of player support by not giving the team a chance to win their bowl game, whoever suspended Hartline cost the whole team, not just Hartline.
Did mitch have to wait his turn when doing all the other improvements with the money the football program brought in, and isn't he the face of UK athletics, does he deserve none of the blame? If he is just a PR man he was a big failure at that, as pointed out before, and you don't remember the long thread about fans on here saying they wouldn't donate anything to any UK programs because of the way he ran the KFund?
Of course fans were willing to donate to football projects, they finally had some support from UK for the program they love.
You know, if he had just been guilty of a few of the offenses I pointed out it would be one thing, but the list of his failures in our football program is long in both their number and their duration.
Was everyone remotely connected with UK athletics just dumb, did they not notice the tremendous increase in interest in football AND the money it brought in, wasn't he supposed to be the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, shouldn't he have pointed out those facts to them?