Why don't we slow screen to the RB?

[brian.mikeson]

Early in the game. Invite the DL and/or blitzing LB's upfield; dump ball over their heads to CRod or McClain with OL in front vs LB's that dropped.

It's safe in regards to potential turnovers (Stoops' main concern offensively).

It's safe in regards to keeping the QB clean (can throw into ground if defensed correctly).

It gets the ball in the hands of a great ball-carrier.

It's a constraint vs teams that like to blitz/pressure.

I can remember running maybe ONE of these this year (big play vs Florida or Ole Miss?). Why is this not something we do 2-3 times/game? I think would not only be a big play when it works but would help our weakest area (OL protection).

 

[NostraDanis]

Good question, O.P.
There could be an issue regarding the Oline's responsibilities in setting up a screen; it requires dicipline and timing, so maybe that's a problem. I think, however, it's more likely that it's not in Scang's playbook, and he seems like he's pretty sure he's smarter than everyone else, so why change?

 

[bigblueinsanity]

We threw numerous screens early in the season. I suspect the change is two fold: 1) direct keys on crod and 2) will is very limited mobility wise.

If I recall we ran a screen vs UT and Jager didn't even punch his man. Just let him free run and UT was already hard flowing to the RB. Will wisely put it in the dirt.

 

[Girthang]

Early in the game. Invite the DL and/or blitzing LB's upfield; dump ball over their heads to CRod or McClain with OL in front vs LB's that dropped.

It's safe in regards to potential turnovers (Stoops' main concern offensively).

It's safe in regards to keeping the QB clean (can throw into ground if defensed correctly).

It gets the ball in the hands of a great ball-carrier.

It's a constraint vs teams that like to blitz/pressure.

I can remember running maybe ONE of these this year (big play vs Florida or Ole Miss?). Why is this not something we do 2-3 times/game? I think would not only be a big play when it works but would help our weakest area (OL protection).

We tried it early in the last 2 games. Defense stayed at home and got pressure both times. In order for that play to be effective we have to have them on their heels with the passing game. When they are crowding the line AND staying disciplined, it's hard to run that play.

What I would settle for would be faking that slip screen and hitting the RB on a flare to the other side. Give CRod or McClain a head of steam before they hit the LOS.

 

[Tf2217]

I love the kid very much but have you seen 160 LB Barion brown block a screen? The boy is dynamic but he gets tossed off blocks pretty bad. He needs to spend extra time in the weight room. BB would be a monster with another 15-20lb of mass

 

[K_TIME]

1. We could certainly use more screens when the pass rush is pinning ears back.....I'd love to see some screens and draws inside the over zealous edge rusher to give them something to think about. I'd argue the bigger impediment is Burton is poor to get on a Lber in space and Flax has zero feet to get out in space. Our better screen guys are Cox Horsey and maye Manning.

2. Screens/draws are fine tool but also we have to scoot teams out the box to get those to work. Teams are litersally standing in the box and even a screen would see a ton of defenders in the box. We need to get the safeties out the box a bit to hit those screens IMO.

 

[cathouse]

We can't "slow block" anyone. Every pass play the pass pro looks like setting up a screen pass.

 

[brian.mikeson]

I love the kid very much but have you seen 160 LB Barion brown block a screen? The boy is dynamic but he gets tossed off blocks pretty bad. He needs to spend extra time in the weight room. BB would be a monster with another 15-20lb of mass

This is an issue on quick screens (wide horizontal screens to WR's). They aren't involved in blocking scheme on the screens I brought up...mainly would run a route and set up in a way to be a late block well after the screen is caught.