Why are we posting so much on offense?

[BLEEDBLUE444]

It's clogging the lane and it's making our offense stagnant! I realize you gotta post sometimes, but it's not working for us right now. I just don't think Skal is going to thrive with his back to the basket, he's going to hit a jumper at a higher percentage than a post up! It would be cool to see us run some true "small ball" space and pace type stuff...

Imagine Murray really catching and shooting off some well designed screens instead of having to shoot off the dribble! Mulder could be the same weapon, and even Willis for that matter. Run some Klay Thompson type stuff early for easy buckets and rhythm.

I would also love to see some quick hitter stuff early for Skal to get a couple open jumpers to get In rhythm. Briscoe has the body for pin down screens that roll Skal up to the elbow for open jumpers, instead of feeding him on the block with his back to the basket...

I'm not sure if we are just not executing right now or these things aren't in the playbook, but we have capable, creative guards, that could be a lot of fun with a little more structure than we are seeing at the moment

 

[BLEEDBLUE444]

This team is not going to be a world beater defensively, but we have the personnel in the right system to really our score people, so why not speed the game up, get a ton of possessions, and run a little more intricate stuff on offense... Take advantage of that 30 second shot clock, the more possessions you have, the more chances you have, and the more baskets you will convert... There's a reason this stuff works in the NBA so well...

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

We haven't clogged the lane really at all the last two games because everyone is running zone to make them shoot. However I will agree they I'd like to see them run pick and pop with skal.

 

[caneintally]

i am with you 100%

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

I haven't posted a single comment about offense

 

[Cefiro]

I'd like to see us use Skal like UCLA used that tall white kid. He had so many wide open jumpers!

 

[TNCatfanforever]

It is offensive

 

[WeWant9]

We also need to remember that Cal is basically starting from stratch with this team. The things we did last year will not be the best options for us this year. I know Cal wants to post up Skal to help prepare him for the NBA, but the guys body isn't to that point yet. I'm not saying don't post him up ever, but we need to get creative in finding ways to utilize Skals talents. I would think with this month of extra practicing we will start to see a more fluid offense come SEC play.

 

[kybassfan]

They'll keep posting up till they execute it successfully and repeatedly then they'll work on another aspect of their offense that needs work. It's a very sophisticated process. Top secret. It's called learning.

 

[armchairpg]

I think when good shooters take good shots the percentages take care of themselves. We have decent shooters taking guarded or rushed shots and the results have not been great. I think as the defense ramps up and we start to get more easy baskets things will loosen up. I wonder if the shorter clock combine with a team that is still learning where to be, etc is leading to more rushed/desperate shots?

As for Skal, I don't deny that he could use 30 lbs of muscle but I think his problem is more about technique and understanding where he needs to be a different points in a given play. If he started on the block he would not get pushed to the 3pt line without some serious calls being made. Instead I think he is starting a step out from that and he get nudged the whole time our perimeter guys are passing and by the time he gets it, he is taking a contested 12 footer. He has a nice touch so he has made more of those than most would in the same position. I think in January he will be playing closer to the basket and lower to the ground and he will get more looks from 2ft. He will look a lot better.

 

[Chuckinden]

Well, the main goal is to get these guys in the NBA, not win championships.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

Well, the main goal is to get these guys in the NBA, not win championships.

Thanks troll

 

[KDcats11]

Well, the main goal is to get these guys in the NBA, not win championships.

Geez, you're a moron.

 

[Teachable Moe]

It's clogging the lane and it's making our offense stagnant!

A zone defense doesn't care if you post up or not since the players guard an area not a person. If the team wants to unclog the lane they need to hit outside shots regularly. Not rocket science. Not brain surgery. Not magic. It isn't a novel "scheme". It's hitting shots.

The tough part of the "scheme" is what to do when you don't hit outside shots. It comes with an implied warning: This Will Get Fugly.

 

[Teachable Moe]

I don't know how to quote everyone who dismissed the idea that the main goal of the program is to put players into the NBA. The main goal of the UK program IS to put the guys into the NBA. It's a "players first" program. So, he teaches skill appropriate for the professional game. Calipari wants both of course and expects the championships will follow from the tactic, but he's only stated a blue million times that it's a "players first" program.

 

[mustnotsleepnow]

I don't know how to quote everyone who dismissed the idea that the main goal of the program is to put players into the NBA. The main goal of the UK program IS to put the guys into the NBA. It's a "players first" program. So, he teaches skill appropriate for the professional game. Calipari wants both of course and expects the championships will follow from the tactic, but he's only stated a blue million times that it's a "players first" program.

RECRUITING.

 

[.S&C.]

I don't know how to quote everyone who dismissed the idea that the main goal of the program is to put players into the NBA. The main goal of the UK program IS to put the guys into the NBA. It's a "players first" program. So, he teaches skill appropriate for the professional game. Calipari wants both of course and expects the championships will follow from the tactic, but he's only stated a blue million times that it's a "players first" program.

It's a recruiting tool.

 

[KDcats11]

I don't know how to quote everyone who dismissed the idea that the main goal of the program is to put players into the NBA. The main goal of the UK program IS to put the guys into the NBA. It's a "players first" program. So, he teaches skill appropriate for the professional game. Calipari wants both of course and expects the championships will follow from the tactic, but he's only stated a blue million times that it's a "players first" program.

There's a way to say that without implying that Cal is sacrificing on court success to do so, which the above poster did. Again, anyone who thinks Cal is sacrificing on court success to get kids to the NBA is a moron, period.

 

[Re2126]

He said it was his MAIN goal. Not only.

 

[Chuckinden]

Geez, you're a moron.

I did't say it. Cal did. Now who's the "moron".

 

[Chuckinden]

There's a way to say that without implying that Cal is sacrificing on court success to do so, which the above poster did. Again, anyone who thinks Cal is sacrificing on court success to get kids to the NBA is a moron, period.

If you don't think Cal has sacrificed the good of the team to get players in the pros then you will figure it all one day.....maybe. Plenty of examples that many have eluded to.

 

[brianpoe]

I'd like to see us use Skal like UCLA used that tall white kid. He had so many wide open jumpers!

Sounds good, but who is our Tony Parker in the paint if we do that?

 

[mustnotsleepnow]

If you don't think Cal has sacrificed the good of the team to get players in the pros then you will figure it all one day.....maybe. Plenty of examples that many have eluded to.

Let's hear one.

Better yet, three since there PLENTY of examples.

 

[kybassfan]

Well, the main goal is to get these guys in the NBA, not win championships.

Without getting into context, coach speak and the depth and breadth of team goals, I have a simple but very important question.

Do you actually believe what you said in the quoted post?

 

[Chuckinden]

Without getting into context, coach speak and the depth and breadth of team goals, I have a simple but very important question.

Do you actually believe what you said in the quoted post?

I didn't say it. Cal did.

 

[kybassfan]

I didn't say it. Cal did.

Yes, but I know that, I know the context. I know what he meant. I'm not in the habit asking questions to which I know the answer.

I asked if you believed it. Do you?

 

[Chuckinden]

Yes, but I know that, I know the context. I know what he meant. I'm not in the habit asking questions to which I know the answer.

I asked if you believed it. Do you?

Are you saying that Cal would lie?

 

[Nubb16]

I post on both offense and defense

 

[kybassfan]

Are you saying that Cal would lie?

No. If I thought Cal was a liar, I would state as much. I have a decent command of the language and I'm not known for being shy.

I had a simple question. Do you believe what you posted?

Well, the main goal is to get these guys in the NBA, not win championships.

If you are not capable of answering, no problem. If you are, I would like to know.

 

[Chuckinden]

Cal said it, so it must be true.

 

[kybassfan]

Cal said it, so it must be true.

I'm sorry you were not able to understand the question.

 

[Chuckinden]

That's ok. I'm just a shy troll anyway.

 

[Hoskins91]

If you don't think Cal has sacrificed the good of the team to get players in the pros then you will figure it all one day.....maybe. Plenty of examples that many have eluded to.

Like what? Disagreeing with decisions he makes is far from him intentionally sacrificing team success. I very much doubt you have proof of that.

 

[stoneycat_20]

drive it drive it drive it.."Id love to see Briscoe drive and kick back out to Murray and Ulis for the 3..Untill we start hitting some 3's the paint will remain clogged..

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Let's hear one.

Better yet, three since there PLENTY of examples.

Have a lot of respect for Chuck as a poster, but the fact he has not responded to this and has posted several more times in the thread shows he is just FOS when it comes to what he is claiming.

I look at all the games we have lost in the NCAA Tourney, and I cannot think of any that were lost because of Cal "playing the wrong guys" or "not running the offense/defense best suited to win the title." The only two cases one can make are the 2010 WVU game and 2015 Wisconsin, and 2015 Wisconsin was just a fluke ending where everything went their way and nothing went ours.

People want to sub 2 frosh guards into a fantasy last 5 minutes, even though neither could stop Wisconsin and play any D. Yeah, we may have scored a bit more but probably just would have been 81-74 Wisconsin instead of 71-64. People acting like it is some "given" we would have won the game are delusional. The guys who got UK back in the lead with 5 mins to go were who Cal went with. If we had played the guys people wanted the last 5 the previous 5 UK probably loses by 10-15 because of their pathetic D. I digress.

2010 WVU there was no one else Cal could have played that could hit some 3's...no one hit jack. UCONN both years we lost we missed a lot of FTs, had an injury to WCS, and had an injury to Poy last year that hurt against Wisconsin, and on and on. I'm still not sure how Cal has lost any NCAA Tourney games because of wanting the players to make the pros. It's a load of crap that people like Chuck, who DO NOT like Cal, say. Chuck would rather have a guy like Tubby here, who recruits crappy 4 year players who can't even get UK to a Final Four after the previous coaches guys leave.

 

[Chuckinden]

Have a lot of respect for Chuck as a poster, but the fact he has not responded to this and has posted several more times in the thread shows he is just FOS when it comes to what he is claiming.

I look at all the games we have lost in the NCAA Tourney, and I cannot think of any that were lost because of Cal "playing the wrong guys" or "not running the offense/defense best suited to win the title." The only two cases one can make are the 2010 WVU game and 2015 Wisconsin, and 2015 Wisconsin was just a fluke ending where everything went their way and nothing went ours.

People want to sub 2 frosh guards into a fantasy last 5 minutes, even though neither could stop Wisconsin and play any D. Yeah, we may have scored a bit more but probably just would have been 81-74 Wisconsin instead of 71-64. People acting like it is some "given" we would have won the game are delusional. The guys who got UK back in the lead with 5 mins to go were who Cal went with. If we had played the guys people wanted the last 5 the previous 5 UK probably loses by 10-15 because of their pathetic D. I digress.

2010 WVU there was no one else Cal could have played that could hit some 3's...no one hit jack. UCONN both years we lost we missed a lot of FTs, had an injury to WCS, and had an injury to Poy last year that hurt against Wisconsin, and on and on. I'm still not sure how Cal has lost any NCAA Tourney games because of wanting the players to make the pros. It's a load of crap that people like Chuck, who DO NOT like Cal, say. Chuck would rather have a guy like Tubby here, who recruits crappy 4 year players who can't even get UK to a Final Four after the previous coaches guys leave.

That's too funny. You must not have been around when Tubby was here. I was a card carrying LOD member that refused to ever pay to watch UK play again until they got rid of him.

Even though I don't care much for Cal's system, I was a little harsh saying that. I don't think he intentionally has done it, but I believe he is too stubborn for his own good and that hurts the team at times.

 

[Mike-D]

Because we can't rely on jumpers an entire 6 game tournament?