Why are people freaking out?

[UKWildcats#8]

UK fans bashed briscoe all year for his play. I heard I don't want him back next year again and again and how they don't want him takinginvites from others next season. Now he leaves and I expect happy board but people are upset? He is now some stud and great leader we will miss. Lol

 

[JerseyCat84]

Because people want players to play terrible and stay. Or play great and stay lol.

 

[MWes11]

UK fans bashed briscoe all year for his play. I heard I don't want him back next year again and again and how they don't want him takinginvites from others next season. Now he leaves and I expect happy board but people are upset? He is now some stud and great leader we will miss. Lol

Clearly you have been around long enough to know...

 

[JohnnyGentle]

almost as if they're entitled, negative bastards

 

[Blueblood22]

Because people feel like they're owed 4 years or some misguided thinking.

 

[kev69]

If h he doesn't want to be here, so be it.

 

[docholiday51]

I don't think it is about Briscoe at all,it is about marginal players like Briscoe. I doubt that anyone is really surprised he is going.The truth is there is little he can do here to enhance his chances of playing for pay,he isn't going to grow,he isn't going to get faster or quicker, his shot is what it is and he can work on it full time as a pro

 

[Untouchables22]

I dunno...I think it's lost on people that the singular reason any top 50 kid that's not a KY native comes to play for Cal is to go to the NBA. That's what he sells and that is basically the only reason they come play here. Yes it sucks when the non-first round guys leave. But you can't lure someone to your program promising NBA and then be shocked when they leave the first chance they get for the NBA.

 

[JFCats22]

I liked Briscoe and thought he could have helped next year's team big time.

For me, it just gets a little old watching a lot of other schools get guys back who could/should clearly go to the NBA and UK continues to have guys leave early that have no business leaving.

 

[YouKay]

Briscoe isn't a marginal player. He is a guy who expected to be the lead guard at UK as a freshman, but Tyler Ulis decided to return. He was so good that Cal went with a 3 guard lineup even after he got Jamal Murray. And then did it again. He played out of position for 2 years and still had multiple double double games, and even a triple double this season.

May I remind everyone that John Wall, Rajon Rondo, Brandon Knight, Marquis Teague, and Tyler Ulis never had a triple double!

 

[JohnnyGentle]

another aspect of briscoe's career was that both years he was here a contingent of posters insisted all through december, january, and february that in the end, briscoe's inability to make jumpshots would be the reason why uk went home early

then he played well in the tournament, while other demonstrated deficiencies predictably recurred and did uk in

 

[tHeFeVeR_23]

I don't think it is about Briscoe at all,it is about marginal players like Briscoe. I doubt that anyone is really surprised he is going.The truth is there is little he can do here to enhance his chances of playing for pay,he isn't going to grow,he isn't going to get faster or quicker, his shot is what it is and he can work on it full time as a pro

I disagree with this. My reason is a guy like Frank Mason. A four year guy at Kansas who was a "marginal" player for 3 years. He did not get taller or quicker either. But what he did do was blow up into the POY as a Senior. Was thought as a guy that would never get drafted but now probably will go back half of second round. Plus, the intangibles that Mason now has as a player makes it more likely that he could find himself on an NBA roster. Not upset that Briscoe is leaving. I want him to do what is best for him and he believes leaving is. But I do believe he could continue to get better and play his way into a late first rounder had he stayed.

 

[UKDC80]

I disagree with this. My reason is a guy like Frank Mason. A four year guy at Kansas who was a "marginal" player for 3 years. He did not get taller or quicker either. But what he did do was blow up into the POY as a Senior. Was thought as a guy that would never get drafted but now probably will go back half of second round. Plus, the intangibles that Mason now has as a player makes it more likely that he could find himself on an NBA roster. Not upset that Briscoe is leaving. I want him to do what is best for him and he believes leaving is. But I do believe he could continue to get better and play his way into a late first rounder had he stayed.

Excellent post and Fact. UK fans who always defend players like Briscoe leaving will have no answer to this. Mason is a great example.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

briscoe could stay 10 years, and not make a living off step back 3s like mason did as a senior

come on now

 

[docholiday51]

I disagree with this. My reason is a guy like Frank Mason. A four year guy at Kansas who was a "marginal" player for 3 years. He did not get taller or quicker either. But what he did do was blow up into the POY as a Senior. Was thought as a guy that would never get drafted but now probably will go back half of second round. Plus, the intangibles that Mason now has as a player makes it more likely that he could find himself on an NBA roster. Not upset that Briscoe is leaving. I want him to do what is best for him and he believes leaving is. But I do believe he could continue to get better and play his way into a late first rounder had he stayed.

You make a good point,but I think Mason and Briscoe will have similar chances to stick in the NBA.Briscoe wants to go and the chance to work on his game full time may benefit him more than being at UK

 

[coolioo1]

Briscoe had a foot out the door the moment he arrived in Lexignton. That was the word on him more than anyother player that class. He wanted to get to the NBA no matter what. Why is this surprising anyone, plus it is a small miracle that he came back last year.

He maybe the most dead set going pro player no matter what that Cal has ever had. It is what it is.

 

[Hoskins91]

I disagree with this. My reason is a guy like Frank Mason. A four year guy at Kansas who was a "marginal" player for 3 years. He did not get taller or quicker either. But what he did do was blow up into the POY as a Senior. Was thought as a guy that would never get drafted but now probably will go back half of second round. Plus, the intangibles that Mason now has as a player makes it more likely that he could find himself on an NBA roster. Not upset that Briscoe is leaving. I want him to do what is best for him and he believes leaving is. But I do believe he could continue to get better and play his way into a late first rounder had he stayed.

He's never going to be a first rounder. Basically his ceiling would be what Frank Mason has done and that's not worth staying four years.

 

[BostonCat2001]

going into the season everyone knew he was going to leave. yet when he finally makes it official...people go nuts. idk...people are just stupid i guess.

 

[KDcats11]

going into the season everyone knew he was going to leave. yet when he finally makes it official...people go nuts. idk...people are just stupid i guess.

This is the correct answer. I stopped getting upset over draft decisions after 2012. It genuinely surprises me when people still do. Absolutely no reason to cry over something you have zero control over. UK will be competitive again next year. That's all I ask.

 

[WildMoon]

I always wanted him back. Haven't changed.

I am not going to get mad that he is leaving either. Good luck to him.

I still wished that he stayed so. He would have been great help next year.

 

[brianpoe]

I disagree with this. My reason is a guy like Frank Mason. A four year guy at Kansas who was a "marginal" player for 3 years. He did not get taller or quicker either. But what he did do was blow up into the POY as a Senior. Was thought as a guy that would never get drafted but now probably will go back half of second round. Plus, the intangibles that Mason now has as a player makes it more likely that he could find himself on an NBA roster. Not upset that Briscoe is leaving. I want him to do what is best for him and he believes leaving is. But I do believe he could continue to get better and play his way into a late first rounder had he stayed.

Excellent post and Fact. UK fans who always defend players like Briscoe leaving will have no answer to this. Mason is a great example.

Actually not a good example.

I have an answer for you.

Frank Mason was the #131 player his senior year.

Briscoe was the nation's #1 point guard.

 

[kb22stang]

Excellent post and Fact. UK fans who always defend players like Briscoe leaving will have no answer to this. Mason is a great example.

The answer is simple, no way is a guy like Briscoe sticking around 2 more years in hopes that he can move into a late 2nd round pick. Really, that's the upside of staying? Unless you're working towards a degree that is worthless, and all the rumors point to Briscoe not really being into the whole studying thing.

 

[UKDC80]

So being ranked high means you can't improve like a lower ranked player? Not sure I understand that logic at all. His class was weak at PG, and rankings don't tell all coming out of high school. Justin Jackson sure improved his stock and game after being ranked high and not being 1 and done.

 

[UKDC80]

The answer is simple, no way is a guy like Briscoe sticking around 2 more years in hopes that he can move into a late 2nd round pick. Really, that's the upside of staying? Unless you're working towards a degree that is worthless, and all the rumors point to Briscoe not really being into the whole studying thing.

Where he may end up in 2 years is speculative. Nonetheless you are correct, he doesn't want to be in school. No changing that.

 

[UK_Memphis]

Briscoe isn't a marginal player. He is a guy who expected to be the lead guard at UK as a freshman, but Tyler Ulis decided to return. He was so good that Cal went with a 3 guard lineup even after he got Jamal Murray. And then did it again. He played out of position for 2 years and still had multiple double double games, and even a triple double this season.

May I remind everyone that John Wall, Rajon Rondo, Brandon Knight, Marquis Teague, and Tyler Ulis never had a triple double!

John Wall had one triple double

 

[YouKay]

I disagree with this. My reason is a guy like Frank Mason. A four year guy at Kansas who was a "marginal" player for 3 years. He did not get taller or quicker either. But what he did do was blow up into the POY as a Senior. Was thought as a guy that would never get drafted but now probably will go back half of second round. Plus, the intangibles that Mason now has as a player makes it more likely that he could find himself on an NBA roster. Not upset that Briscoe is leaving. I want him to do what is best for him and he believes leaving is. But I do believe he could continue to get better and play his way into a late first rounder had he stayed.

Frank Mason isn't going to be drafted either. Sindarius Thornwell is a better example. Neither of them were guys UK would have even talked to in high school though.

 

[YouKay]

John Wall had one triple double

Not at UK he didn't. There was only one before this year and it was by Chris Mills in 1988.

 

[YouKay]

So being ranked high means you can't improve like a lower ranked player? Not sure I understand that logic at all. His class was weak at PG, and rankings don't tell all coming out of high school. Justin Jackson sure improved his stock and game after being ranked high and not being 1 and done.

I seriously doubt Jackson will be drafted any higher than he would have last year. He showed nothing in this tournament that he didn't last year. In fact he had a rather poor game in the championship and may have hurt himself a lot. He's a mid first rounder and would have been last year. So he gets to call himself an NCAA champion but he lost a million bucks that he won't get back. He won't be drafted ahead of Jayson Tatum or Josh Jackson, and this year he has to compete with the whole crop of great point guards who will also go ahead of him. He did a great job defending Malik Monk, but Monk will be drafted ahead of him and make more money in his career.

 

[ManitouDan]

The truth is no Ky with a brain moans when a Fox , Wall, Davis , etc go pro , its just a small scratch of the head when a Dakari Johnson, Skal and A Briscoe leaves early , you know they are not ready but the system ( both the NBA system of drafting on potential and the UK pressure to leave) works against us on this type stuff.

 

[mj2k10]

The higher a player is rated coming out of HS, the more likely he is to leave early. REGARDLESS OF PERFORMANCE. People need to get that through their heads.

It's probably true that UK is more likely to get a high percentage of players who will basically never stay 4 years, but anyone recruiting elite players is going to go through this. And UK gets more elite players than anyone else. Yeah, you have kids who like college well enough, and see a degree as important (and UK's had those too in Poythress and Lee), but the fact is that a high percentage don't view it that way.

Go back and look at recruiting lists since Cal's arrived. You see a ton of highly-rated guys who left early with either dicey or non-existent draft prospects. Lance Stephenson, Tiny Gallon, Josh Selby, Perry Jones, Will Barton, Quincy Miller, Grant Jerrett, Chris Walker, Cliff Alexander, Cheick Diallo, and on, and on.

Briscoe was 11 in the 2015 RSCI. Gabriel was 13th last year. It's no surprise that they're in a rush to get to the NBA, or at least be a pro.

 

[UK_Memphis]

Not at UK he didn't. There was only one before this year and it was by Chris Mills in 1988.

you are correct. i was looking at the wrong column.

 

[rhstoess]

briscoe leaving helps more than it hurts

 

[3rex]

UK fans bashed briscoe all year for his play. I heard I don't want him back next year again and again and how they don't want him takinginvites from others next season. Now he leaves and I expect happy board but people are upset? He is now some stud and great leader we will miss. Lol

I just saw a tweet saying "UK's Briscoe leaving to pursue a professional career."
My initial reaction was "Good for him. In what field?"

 

[Big Cat fan]

Cal isn't the guy that should get respect or press anymore like getting a 30 for 30. He's killing college basketball he really is that media and rival fans were saying from the start. When you have a guy like Briscoe leave for a D League when he has 2 years to play in college you show you not only recruit guys that only think of them self only but not play for the program they played for.

No other kids leave until they are sure they get drafted. It's no wonder Cal gets made fun of.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Cal isn't the guy that should get respect or press anymore like getting a 30 for 30. He's killing college basketball he really is that media and rival fans were saying from the start. When you have a guy like Briscoe leave for a D League when he has 2 years to play in college you show you not only recruit guys that only think of them self only but not play for the program they played for.

No other kids leave until they are sure they get drafted. It's no wonder Cal gets made fun of.

consider what you just posted...dont wonder why people from kentucky get made fun of.

 

[Big Cat fan]

boston we are all laughing at Cal

boston why are you a very bad poster? get outta here.

 

[BostonCat2001]

boston we are all laughing at Cal

boston why are you a very bad poster? get outta here.

jokes on you....you look stupid and selfish. and whats worse...you dont realize just how stupid and selfish you are.

 

[Big Cat fan]

jokes on you....you look stupid and selfish. and whats worse...you dont realize just how stupid and selfish you are.

I am selfish call me crazy I want the kid back because he won't even get drafted.

Call me selfish I am for thinking a kid should come back to Kentucky like every kid at every college would if they won't be drafted.

Sign me up

 

[tHeFeVeR_23]

Actually not a good example.

I have an answer for you.

Frank Mason was the #131 player his senior year.

Briscoe was the nation's #1 point guard.

Today it doesn't matter what Mason or Briscoe was ranked in high school. We are talking 2 years removed from such rank for Briscoe and 4 for Mason. I used the example because they had similar sophomore year and are both smaller, stockier guards. Mason shoots the ball better. Briscoe rebounds and finishes better. I think both are in iffy spots to be drafted. But I think Mason has the better chance. I don't see why some say Briscoe couldn't play is way into the 25-30 discussion of 2018 or 2019 draft.

 

[BostonCat2001]

I am selfish call me crazy I want the kid back because he won't even get drafted.

Call me selfish I am for thinking a kid should come back to Kentucky like every kid at every college would if they won't be drafted.

Sign me up

false...you want him back because it helps uk wins more games next year.