Who was the best point guard to play at UK?

[UK90]

Hmmm...I seem to remember Maravich being a part of the NBAs 50 greatest. Can't remember Westphal being up there..

Maravich being included in that list back in 95 was a preposterous joke, and exhibit A in the case of him being "the most overrated player in history." People knew it even back then, and it looks even more ridiculous now. Truth is he does not even belong in a Top 100 list, much less 50.

Seriously, do you know how many statistical categories Maravich ranks in the all time Top 100 in? ZERO. Not a single one. In fact, the only category where he even comes remotely close is scoring, where he ranks a measly 113th.

-And the funny thing about that is this is a guy who was widely accused of being obsessed with piling up stats over everything else, yet even his stats fall woefully short. And the other things statistics don't measure, like guarding people, are what he was WORST at. And his record for winning and losing was absolutely horrible. .

So there's just no objective criteria whatsoever for arguing that he was Top 100. His numbers obviously don't put him there, his defense and intangibles even worse, and his teams nearly always lost (yet oddly got better right AFTER he left them).

Hands down, the most overrated player in history.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

Maravich would be a star today IMHO. That dude could ball.

 

[Blue Pop]

Patty Jo Hedges...was at one time the overall assist leader at UK, men or women, may still be.

 

[mj2k10]

1779

That's the number of FG attempts Pete Maravich missed in the 83 games he played at LSU. That's nearly 21.5 per game. To put that into some context, it's 188 more than Dan Issel attempted in his UK career, and over 1000 more misses than Issel. Oscar Robertson was the career scoring leader prior to Maravich, and he missed 916 shots in his college career (and his teams went 79-9).

Austin Carr was a near-contemporary of Maravich's (graduated 1 year later). If I want a prolific scoring guard from that era, I take the junior and senior Carr over the Pistol 7 days a week and twice on game days. Carr went for over 38 ppg both of his last 2 years, and did so while shooting over 50% both years (and while grabbing over 7 rebounds per game) on 2 NCAA Tournament teams.

 

[TeoJ]

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Win a champion ship in their first year

 

[UK90]

1779

That's the number of FG attempts Pete Maravich missed in the 83 games he played at LSU. That's nearly 21.5 per game. To put that into some context, it's 188 more than Dan Issel attempted in his UK career, and over 1000 more misses than Issel. Oscar Robertson was the career scoring leader prior to Maravich, and he missed 916 shots in his college career (and his teams went 79-9).

Austin Carr was a near-contemporary of Maravich's (graduated 1 year later). If I want a prolific scoring guard from that era, I take the junior and senior Carr over the Pistol 7 days a week and twice on game days. Carr went for over 38 ppg both of his last 2 years, and did so while shooting over 50% both years (and while grabbing over 7 rebounds per game) on 2 NCAA Tournament teams.

That's SO insane, the dude MISSED 21,5 shots per game. Just to take 21 would seem insane today, but that was merely Pete's average number of MISSES. Absolutely the ballhoggingest ballhog ever to play the sport.

And you're also right that Carr was the better guard in the same era, he just didn't get as much attention. Carr scored nearly as much, but on far fewer shots with better shooting percentages, while also being a better rebounder and defender, and winning more games.

 

[TeoJ]

So what, he had a "wow factor". What does that have to do with this? Look at his turnover stats and the fact he couldn't guard a trash can.

He did score over 40 points a game and had a few assists also.

 

[TeoJ]

well jordan is the best player ever and he took cody zeller with the third pick, and noel still on the board, iirc

mo cheeks shot 54% for his career and had more steals than turnovers. he's not even in the HOF. i'd take him over maravich in a heartbeat if i was trying to win a basketball game, and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong

I think your posting know just to up post count,because I doubt you even believe this.

 

[UK90]

I think your posting know just to up post count,because I doubt you even believe this.

If he doesn't, I do. Mo Cheeks was an outstanding pass-first pure point guard, both offensively and defensively superb, and with no real weaknesses to his game (played kinda like the predecessor to John Stockton). He's one the most underrated players in history (in other words, the precise opposite of Maravich).

If my goal is to win a title, I'm choosing Cheeks over Maravich. Because nothing about Maravich's game was about winning titles.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Not Michael Porter