Beard ain't going back to where he was fired. Sean Miller maybe.
Who gets the Texas job?
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Eight points in four minutes? You're overqualified... Unless you have an affinity for the local booby bars and Jeff Ruby's. In which case, welcome aboard with a $300K signing bonus.
You either can't read or did not read what I wrote. I said Texas is a better job BECAUSE it would have 10 times less pressure than here in Lexington. I also said Texas could pay as much or more for a coach as anyone in the country. Don't be a soft Karen! If we get in a bidding war with Texas, we and everyone else loses. They have the deepest pockets in college sports.
You should have said those are aspects of coaching at Texas that is a positive vs the expectations and pressure at UK but that's not what you said. Personally I'd prefer a hungry competitive coach who wants that pressure. But either way you said it was a better job and explained why you thought that. All things considered UK is most definitely the better job is basically what he was saying. If you feel UK is the overall better job you didn't do a very good job saying that. Your post was a lot closer to Karen and soft than his.
Doug Gottlieb!!!
No, you said Texas is a better job than Kentucky.
That’s a stupid ass statement that is 1000% false
UConn, Villanova, Kentucky, Kansas, Gonzaga. I thought of those 5 just off the top of my head and they are all obviously basketball schools. You overplayed your hand with the 99 percent comment.
Hell, I can name more, (Duke, UCLA) but if not 99 percent it's in the high 90s. FTR, Texas is known for swimming.
Wrong. But good luck finding anyone in college basketball that would agree with you that Texas is an overall better job. There may be some coaches who like the job better if they aren't good with high pressure but ask a majority of coaches or analysts or whoever and I guarantee you won't find more people who agree with you than disagree. You can laugh all you want but most coaches would disagree with you. Ultimately "better" is an opinion and a couple messege board posters opinions don't outweigh the opinions of the ones actually doing the coaching. It doesn't matter if you like it or not.
I was considering saying almost the exact same thing in my last post, then telling him now name 99 schools for every school I just named.
I have no idea your line of work but if you had a choice of making $75K doing what you currently do and you are offered $75K to do a job that has significant less stress, please tell me you would want the more stressful work. Both have same benefits and security so no difference. If you want to change the numbers to $5 million it would be same question asked. You will admit that UK basketball comes with more expectations and stress than TX. A coach being hired does not look at UK like we as fans do. He may not have any feelings for either school. He is looking at his career to support his family. Maybe you call TX an easier job, I called it a better job, only because of a much more difficult environment. TX may be be thrilled with 22 wins a year. KY fans start calling for a new coach with consistant 22 games won per year. We are 22 - 11 this year and the only reason fans are not screaming is Coach Pope had to hustle a team together in a 6 to8 week timeframe. Even with that some on here were crying we should have hired low moral Pitino or Pearl.
If Pope had performed the exact same thing in Austin, he would be getting a big raise and extension. His face would be on every billboard beside Steve Sarkisian. I in no way was saying KY is a bad job, but to think is is not hard as hell because of fan pressure would be foolish thinking. GBB
I laughed because you didn't read his post. You already had your mind made up that it's stupid to say "Texas is the better job" without looking at his personal reasoning.
Not everyone is attracted to salary despite the pressures of the job. Sometimes the pressure to win isn't worth it.
My line of work isn't relevant to college basketball coaching. But a lot of top level coaches would prefer a more prestigious University. If UK, UNC, KU, or Duke all tried to go after 100 coaches and Texas tried to get those same coaches do you really think Texas would get their guy.more often? Didn't think so. Again this is ultimately an opinion but the guys who are actually occupying the sport, a majority of them wouldn't agree with you.
I read his post and nothing in my post suggested I didn't. I simply disagreed, as well as most coaches do. Might as well just agree to disagree but I'm on the side of the guys who actually do it for a living. The history, prestige and fan support of the bluebloods definitely are a huge factor. There is literally nothing laughable about that no matter what a couple messege board posters think.
So you're saying they wouldn't agree with him, but then you undercut your argument by saying it's "ultimately an opinion".
Rich
Kelvin Sampson right there in state.
The job that guy has done is nothing short of outstanding. Great career comeback story. Got in trouble, bounced around, written off by most. Now has Houston as a national player.
Rooting for him.
I think any program has to make a call to Pearl.
Guy at BYU has done a great job, has an NBA background which helps in recruiting.
The job that guy has done is nothing short of outstanding. Great career comeback story. Got in trouble, bounced around, written off by most. Now has Houston as a national player.
Rooting for him.
I think any program has to make a call to Pearl.
Guy at BYU has done a great job, has an NBA background which helps in recruiting.
I would at least ask Greg McDermott at Creighton. I know he has been there 15 or so years but I'd at least ask him.
Exactly why that one is a waste of time. He ain’t leaving for the same level of job
Me saying it's an opinion doesn't change the fact that it was always an opinion in the first place, same as yours. Me saying that their opinion is an opinion doesn't undercut my argument at all. You are just posting to post. If 2 people are debating LeBron vs jordan or whatever and one says that's just my opinion, how the hell does that "undercut" their argument? Lol. Is your post not your opinion? Silly logic. Either way like I said if we or another blueblood target the same coaches as texas 100 times over, who are you putting your life savings on to get that coach more times than not? Is it Texas?
Edgarman's reasoning is better and more thought out than yours. So what if a talking head say UK is the best job. They're going on tradition, salary+endorsements and perks. It can turn bad really quickly if you lose games.
Perhaps these "experts" should qualify their statements with "this job is the best IF you're the right person". Your logic is no different than these talking heads are feeding you.
You only think that because you agree with him, most coaches wouldnt. But nice try with bringing up talking heads when I never said that then making up that they are somehow feeding me lol. Strawman. Also I noticed no one has responded to where they would put their money if they had to bet on if Texas tries to get 100 coaches and we try for the same. Who gets more? Who is taking texas?
I don't know Edgarman from Adam, but I agree with him and see his reasoning. I thought he explained himself well--and let's face it--you drew "first blood" attacking his opinion
Personally, I think Austin would be helluva fun. So much to do and see. Great music scene and Texas will pay enough to put you in the 1 percent bracket of your neighbors. No way I'd want to coach for this fanbase. Like they say--Kentucky is not for everyone.
They would be crazy to hire Calipari. I don’t believe that at all. Calipari is tired and tainted from the past several seasons. Always a good crop of younger coaches from the mids.
One last statement on my part. When Cal left, fired, quite, or what ever happened, we did not see top end coaches jumping to come to the pressure cooker of Lexington. To suggest or to believe Coach Pope was the first and only person Barnhart contacted then I have ocenfront lots next to Rupp that I will sell. Someone thought UCONN and Bama was a job that paid as much as UK and must be a LOT less pressure. Just saying.... Oats, Pearl, Golden, Sampson, or Beard do not have any ties to Lexington that would lead them to leave $5 million salary to double their stress level and if you or any of us die heart fans did not love our Cats, we would not either. I hope we have Pope for 15 more years because it is not easy to convince coaches to jump into the fire. Wait and see what UNC can get next year to jump into their fire. They have only gone in-house with their coach selections but I can't wait to see what they can get from the outside coaching world. It probably wll not be who they would really want.
I would not look at the history of the basketball program as much as I would the potential of the basketball program. Texas , with the NIL now ruling college sports, might be the best landing spot out there.
Will Wade would kill it at a school like Texas with the NIL budget. He could be a thorn in the side of DOOK/UNC for many years in the ACC.
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I think he would do good there and can recruit. Just thinking about that though is ironic if they were to hire the coach that beat the one they just fired in his last game.
Sounds like he was the man the AD wanted the first time around and something happened and they hired Terry. Sounds like since Terry got knocked out by Miller this time seems like Miller is who the AD is going to probably target when Xavier’s run is over. I saw his contract runs through I think 2028-2029 so that might be a nice little payout but Texas has big pockets so no big deal.
It's kind of a religious cult type college though, as I understand it. Maybe it's like TCU where the religious aspect of it isn't as prominent as it once was. No question a paradise of a campus. Built from tithe money no doubt.
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They fired Rick Barnes, most successful coach in the history of the program. They've already tried Shaka Smart. He couldn't win at Texas, but has Marquette doing well. They ran Beard off, which may or may not have been premature, given the facts. I don't know where they turn now. Their football program was similarly without direction until they hit on Sark, and he seems to have righted it. They can compete financially with anyone obviously.
