Where does the ACC stand in 5 years?
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They signed the dumbest TV contract in the history of TV contracts. They’re left in the dust in 5 years having half the budget of SEC and B1G programs and significantly less than the Big 12.
THat is how I see it....they'll keep their teams forced in and wont pay the buyout......but it's giong to hurt Clemson, UNC, Miami, etc...long term as they'll be left behind nationally.
I think ESPN is fine, at the moment, paying less for a few big name teams. Eventually, FSU, Clemson, miami, unc, the teams with big brands, will figure out a way to not get left behind, financially. The SEC and BIG10 will double them each year, financially. Those teams won’t stand by and let that happen. Even if it last until the ACC contract, the rest of the country will have new contracts and solidified conferences. I think that’s why FSU put the ACC big whigs on notice.
If FSU could leave they would have already left. They signed that GOR agreement, now they deal with the consequences.
Same with Clemson, they have been the face of ACC for several years. They are trying to convince the ACC to pay them a bigger percentage of their media deal than others. FSU and UNC are in this with CU hard to believe the other members would vote for this. But hard to see how they can stay competitive with the other conferences while dealing with the financial deficit they will be facing the next 12 years.
FSU should have had the balls to leave when Maryland did. Instead they signed that moronic GOR deal and handcuffed themselves to a sinking ship.
We play 1 of their members yearly, recruit the same territories as ACC schools
In 5 yrs just more of the same....only 2 or 3 ACC teams who really care and try to compete, the rest of the conference largely mediocre and irrelevant. They get an auto bid to the new 12 team CFB playoff, but they will only send 1. And it will alternate between Clemson and FSU.
And despite the threats and bluffs there is no way financially anyone can leave before 2035.
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I could easily be wrong on this, but my understanding is the ACC owns their media rights and if a team leaves the conference the ACC still gets their media revenue. Apparently it's a pretty tight contract or CU would be gone already. I think they are stuck until the contract expires, then the ACC disband. I think some teams leave hoping for SEC or Big 10 invites, the rest like you say bring in some lesser programs and hope to keep a piece of the pie.
Yeah I don't know when it will happen but I think it will. Things could easily change over time in that span so I'm not sure. One thing I read was that if they lose enough teams then it's no longer considered a conference so that may end the GOR. I've not spent time on that so I could be wrong. They would need a group to leave all at the same time if that is indeed the case.
Current speculation is that the cheapest option for the teams that can land in the SEC or Big 10 would be to basically buy votes from other teams to bring the number to 8 which can allegedly dissolve the conference and GoR agreement.
So if Pitt or Louisville can get into the Big 12 then whoever lands in the SEC or Big 10 would pay the difference in lost revenue for those schools through 2036, which according to projections I saw would be around $60 million per school (plus im sure a surcharge would be included). Teams that can land in one of the big 2 would being in $600-700 million more than the ACC projections in that timeframe so paying off other schools would be a drop in the bucket.
So if Pitt or Louisville can get into the Big 12 then whoever lands in the SEC or Big 10 would pay the difference in lost revenue for those schools through 2036, which according to projections I saw would be around $60 million per school (plus im sure a surcharge would be included). Teams that can land in one of the big 2 would being in $600-700 million more than the ACC projections in that timeframe so paying off other schools would be a drop in the bucket.
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What teams are they losing though? Every team in that conference signed their grant of rights away to the ACC until 2036. On top of a ridiculous buyout to leave the conference, all of the TV money a program would get from the new conference would go to the ACC until 2036.
I have no idea, just a hypothetical since I'm not even sure if it heard it correctly. Teams would (guessing) have to get together and all decide to leave at one time and have a destination worked out. Assuming SEC and BIG. Otherwise there's no reason to leave.
I honestly wonder where college football will be in 5 years much less the ACC
Zero financial or educational reason the lesser schools agree to dissolution to help Clemson, FSU, UNC get to the SEC or Big 10 real soon. 0.0000 benefit to places like Syracuse, Boston College, Pitt, Ge Tech for the ACC to cease to exist.
You’re not gonna get all 15 schools to agree to dissolve the conference.
I don't have enough legal knowledge to know but there was talk of dissolving the conference, but will that void the contract? When someone passes his estate is responsible for his debt. Someone here likely knows the answer to that, but if 3-4 teams decided to stay, does that make a conference
This is accurate. If FSU, for example, were to leave now, they would forfeit all television money to the ACC until 2036. That's a losing proposition and even worse than their current predicament.
I know the big wig lawyers are feverishly trying to figure an out clause but that dog doesn't hunt.
What non-SEC teams we play are irrelevant to what the ACC is. Should we then also care where the MAC stands in 5 years?
We recruit in many states besides ACC states that aren't SEC states, the state of Kentucky in particular. So why does that matter to what the ACC does/is?
The rest is just thoughts & statements w/o regard to the ACC's status. So still a yawn.
But we compete with ACC teams on the recruiting trail. If the big dawgs from the ACC leave and the conference is a shell of its former self, a kid isn’t likely to pick Louisville over UK when he can go to UK and play in the super conference. They could easily not be a power 5 conference anymore, depending on who they add or whatever. If Oregon and Washington bolted to the big ten, the PAC 12 won’t be considered a power 5. The tv ratings won’t be there anymore.
