If it is going to happen, I would imagine the news will drop pretty soon about who will be departing. I'm thinking Monday, or maybe even today.
When should we expect to hear something regarding offensive staff changes?
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Hoping soon, heard Scang out. Maybe an assistant from Ohio St in. We shall see.
Needs to be very soon to help keep our talent out of the portal.
He is, Sounds like him and Stoops just didn’t mesh well.
I trust Stoops to make the right call, but changing offensive coordinators every year isn't a recipe for success.
Losing Coen wasn't his choice....but you're correct
And he may want to start over on the OL, as well as start hiring a Special Teams coach...
4th Tier would be to upgrade the DL coach (but first 3 much more important)
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10 years and he hasn’t fixed the offense yet. Change may not help at all.
Our defensive line coach is one of the last things we need to worry about.
Brian Hartline?
That would be a pretty exciting hire I have to admit. The guy is regarded as quite possibly the best recruiter in all of college football. He also has an interesting offensive pedigree. The current Ohio State offense incorporates a lot of different styles into one. And they don't run any rigid system the way Scang does. They recruit the best players they can get and adapt the offense to fit the players they have. What a novel concept! One season they may be pass heavy. The next, they might be run heavy. Some years they use lots of QB runs if that is a strength of the given QB. Other seasons, they don't. You have varied concepts left over from Urban Meyer mixed in with the air raid and power running of Kevin Wilson who used to be OC Oklahoma.
Plus, it would be interesting to see what philosophies Hartline would bring from his own playing and coaching career.
It would also make for another interesting possibility. Brian Hartline is a WR guy through and through. We would need a QB coach. Brother Mike (former UK QB) is currently working as an analyst at Auburn. Could he potentially be tapped as QB coach if Brian is hired?
Maybe, but too often they would get "stone-walled" without any meaningful, CONSISTENT upfield pushes
It sure isn't a positive, especially for recuriting, to continually change position coaches. If we get rid of the OC and OL coaches that means 3 years in a row. If you don't think that hurts recruiting you don't know jack.
I don't know the answers but continuity is extremely important. I've always believed the hardest job in coaching is the head coach coaching his position coaches. Most of your better program have had consistency on their staff over the years. Ofcourse they lose coaches but not year in and year out, especially not coordinators and line coaches.
I don't know the answers but continuity is extremely important. I've always believed the hardest job in coaching is the head coach coaching his position coaches. Most of your better program have had consistency on their staff over the years. Ofcourse they lose coaches but not year in and year out, especially not coordinators and line coaches.
Continuity only matters if you have something positive with which to continue. Scang just isn't the right fit here. He just doesn't seem to mesh well with Stoops. And it also seems the players have no confidence in him. There was just too much turmoil behind the scenes this year. The team damn nearly quit on a couple of occasions. Coen was a great hire. Scang was a terrible hire made largely for the purpose of "continuity". Instead of hiring someone to try to continue Coen's philosophy and choosing from a rather small pool of candidates who could do that, we should have gone for the best available option, even if his style was a complete 180 from what Coen ran.
If a dline holds its ground it’s done a good job . And what about the last 3 years? You don’t think guys like Bohanna and Bully were developed?
Finishing last in the SEC in offense when you have a great QB, RB, WRs, and TEs also isn’t a great recipe for success.
Think we’re on tap to pay Scang $1mil next year.
Not to mention, we now pay Stoops $9mil. My guess is the money wouldn’t be an issue. Hartline would be a great hire IMO.
Yeah , I wasn’t trying to say he wasn’t an option , just posted that for people who didn’t know about him . IF he were to be interested It would be because he wants to advance to an offensive coordinator , cause I doubt he’d leave for $50,000. I doubt that Stoops would hire someone with zero experience this time . He HAS to get this hire right this time . I’m not convinced there will be a change though. From what I’ve been told, if Scang leaves it will be because he wants to.
Mike Hartline was moved to QB Coach at Auburn with the interim coaching change so he's building his resume.
All the OCS is not what our issues are with the offense. This past week there was 21 P5 games played. Of those 21 games 18 were won my teams that scored 30+ points. Unless Stoops has a come to Jesus moment we are never going to become that. Just hope it doesn't matter with us trying to reach another level.
Hartline would be a Grand Slam hire, almost the college version of Coen that he would probably bounce at first opportunity to go back to Ohio St or maybe even be a HC at a smaller school - but that is the risk you take to hopefully get 2-3 years out of him. Plus the connections he would have on the recruiting trail/transfer portal is just something you cannot get with an NFL coach.
If the stories of Fickell to Wisconsin are true I'd think Hartline could be next up at Cincy...then make brother Mike OC/QB coach.
X 100. Stuart has created some nice recruiting relationships.
We want coordinators that are good enough to move on. It’s just a matter of time before Brad White gets his chance. Give me the young up and coming coordinators who are looking to prove themselves and move on (Coen, Hartline, etc) over the journeymen retreads (Scang, Gran, etc) anyday.
Well I get it and agree. But Coen was a damn good OC and he just left for an improbable opportunity to coach rams. It’s not like we’re firing guys every year
There is not much good that he’ll come of keeping Scangerello and Yenser. Go get a good name , throw bags of money at a candidate, let Brown and Key partake in process ti keep them on board and move forward. That is by far our best bet at this time
Needs to happen before the portal opens. 100% definitely on board with Yenser being fired. I do wonder what the offense could've been if our Oline was anywhere near competent
If money is an issue maybe Mitch dumbassery should pay out if salaries. Giving Stiops a dumb raise was moronic. We should have used any extra money to buy a new offensive staff. This was clear as a bell after Tennessee debacle. But instead he thinks it a great move to get extend stoops 😳
If we can't get the right guy, I'd rather move Gran back to OC until we can.
We'll probably hear something with about :02 seconds left on the play clock would be my guess.
This must be Eddie Grans account
With all the changes the last couple years no idea how assistants leaving will be handled, but in the old days assistants would move a day or 2 after signing day
