My understanding Cal handled the funding on the bball nil. Assuming a few calls to the 30 or so UK nba alumni helped supplement the coffers.
When he pulls it does the nil dry up?
When he pulls it does the nil dry up?
When Cal goes does our nil
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Depends on how he goes out I would assume.
His past players are fiercely loyal to him. If they feel he was mistreated, it could impact it.
However I don't think that will be the case
I believe Greg Darbyshire (Grant Darbyshire’s dad) is leading everything behind the scenes for the NIL. I’m sure the money coming in from former players might take a little hit, but I don’t think our basketball NIL will ever be hurting.
To be honest I'm surprised our NIL for the men's basketball team isn't substantially more than it is.
UK basketball is a huge draw with a fan base equivalent to many of the NBA teams and more than some NBA teams. No reason we shouldn't be able to offer hands down the largest NIL to any player we wanted to get.
UK basketball is a huge draw with a fan base equivalent to many of the NBA teams and more than some NBA teams. No reason we shouldn't be able to offer hands down the largest NIL to any player we wanted to get.
To hear some on here, NIL might go up when he's gone. Apparently, he's grossly unpopular among the BBN.
Who says it isn’t? Honest question. Have we lost a player because we couldn’t come up with more cash?
Tbh, I don’t think we really want anyone who’s sole factor is biggest bag. Part of it sure but not only determining factor.
You can look up what our guys are getting. What I'm saying is I'm surprised they aren't getting more. My other statement was geared toward upcoming seasons. We truly should never miss a recruit over NIL.
I think you’re mistaken that you can look up what our guys are making. You might be seeing their NIL evaluation, which means nothing.
For those who are curious below is our guys NIL income and where it ranks among college basketball.
10. Rob Dillingham 734k
13. DJ Wagner 561k
14. Justin Edward's 554k
17. Aaron Bradshaw 516k
25. Reed Shepherd 411k
67. Antonio Reeves 113k
Those are our top earners. Some of them have deals for vehicles, jewelery and the likes.
When hunter Dickinson gets 844k and Edey 810k and Clingan 800k I think it's a shame our guys aren't getting more. This is Kentucky after all and our program makes more money than a lot of football programs do and that says a lot.
If anyone is interested the top 3 are Bronny James 5.9 million, piggy backing off Daddy who has a huge brand and that is understandable. Hansel Enmanuel 1.2 million and goes to Austin Peay only has one arm. Jared McCain 1 million and he is a Dukie.
10. Rob Dillingham 734k
13. DJ Wagner 561k
14. Justin Edward's 554k
17. Aaron Bradshaw 516k
25. Reed Shepherd 411k
67. Antonio Reeves 113k
Those are our top earners. Some of them have deals for vehicles, jewelery and the likes.
When hunter Dickinson gets 844k and Edey 810k and Clingan 800k I think it's a shame our guys aren't getting more. This is Kentucky after all and our program makes more money than a lot of football programs do and that says a lot.
If anyone is interested the top 3 are Bronny James 5.9 million, piggy backing off Daddy who has a huge brand and that is understandable. Hansel Enmanuel 1.2 million and goes to Austin Peay only has one arm. Jared McCain 1 million and he is a Dukie.
Non of the information is exact I'm sure, but this isn't secret information. There are rules to NIL that most be followed. People aren't legally handing them suitcases of money and following NIL protocol. That would still be impermissible benefits.
Why can't money be a primary motivation? It's a motivation for many of us going to college, to improve our potential lifetime earnings. It's a motivation for professional athletes. Heck, it's a motivation for literally everyone who's old enough to understand the value of wealth.
But for an 18 year old kid who's never tasted wealth before, and who may or may not have a short window to gain some wealth before their skillset rapidly deteriorates in a few years? They should possess more transcendent awareness and depth than the rest of humanity, a humanity that is made up of people two, three, or four times their age who make decisions almost exclusively based on potential earnings?
If Zion came to UK primarily because of the wealth we could offer and the potential wealth we could help him obtain, I'd take his 23 points, 9 rebounds, and 68% field goal percentage any day of the week and twice on Sundays; and you know what?
So would you.
Pony up for Reed bbn. That's pathetic. He isnt coming back for 411k next year. He should get 1 to 2 million minimum he's that important to the future.
So our NBA guys have exceeded $3 billion in earnings (and climbing), but we can only afford an NIL salary cap of less than $2 million total?
I hope those numbers aren't true, especially with all the bragging Cal did about La Familia's NIL contributions.
I hope those numbers aren't true, especially with all the bragging Cal did about La Familia's NIL contributions.
Again…that is not how much they are making. That’s a system that On3 has in place to give an NIL value. That is not what they are making. Even they state the following when talking about their rankings:
“The On3 NIL Valuation is the industry’s leading index that sets high school and college athletes’ projected annual value (PAV).
While the algorithm includes deal data, it does not act as a tracker of the value of NIL deals athletes have completed to date, nor does it set an athlete’s NIL valuation for their entire career. The On3 NIL Valuation calculates the optimized NIL opportunity for athletes relative to the overall NIL market and projects out to as long as 12 months into the future.
For each athlete, the On3 NIL Valuation algorithm takes into account three primary factors: performance, influence and exposure to create their individual Roster Value and Brand Value, which together combine to create the athlete’s On3 NIL Valuation.“
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There is no rule that states they need to make their income public. I understand NIL very well. This is strictly an algorithm set up to say what their value is.
Doubt it, I assume Cal will be like the GM when he decides to retire. He would be great as an Ambassador to UK.
So true. This is why I want his time in Lexington to end amicably, preferably in 5 to 7 years after he lands multiple top classes, produces four or five more NBA All-Stars, and gets us back to 2 or 3 more Final Fours.
We want the ambassador Calipari who continues to use his sway to get kids to Kentucky. That can only be a very good thing for the program. I just hope he takes the next 5 to 7 years personally and does everything in his power to get us that second titles. Even if he had his former players 2% of their collective interest earnings to our program, we could raise the NIL salary cap to heights never seen before in college sports.
Honestly all the pre NIL era in college basketball is gonna be looked at as a truly different era a few decades from now.
As long as UK pays its players the most or top 5 each year they will do well no matter who the coach is, assuming they can coach. Cal struggles with that sometimes so he hasn't exceled yet in NIL era.
I was about to say the same. Am I misremembering or isn’t he getting most of his NIL money from his former players in the nba? Or did I dream that ?
My numbers didn't come from ON3. I understand they aren't set in stone. They are good guidelines. Our guys aren't the top paid NIL guys, my point being they should be.
Several states actually do make athletes report all NIL publicly. It's The University of Kentuckys policy that all athletes report all NIL deals to INFLCR for compliance approval. I promise you how much they make is known. I won't argue about it but it's no secret.
Your numbers are the On3 numbers. You might have gotten them from somewhere else, but they are the On3 numbers. The first 5 guys have those exact rankings on On3.
A big part of these evaluations for some of the top guys is social media following and the value of that. That’s why Dillingham is at the top of the valuation for UK players..he has the biggest social media following.
In fact, the top 4 guys on the On3 list are strictly there bc of social media followers.
Kentucky law does not allow the university to make the information public. It has to be reported to the designee at the university, but then, that information cannot be released per the State of Kentucky NIL bill:
- For the purposes of the Kentucky Open Records Act, KRS 61.870 to 61.884, a NIL agreement submitted pursuant to subsection (1) of this section to a public postsecondary institution and the information obtained from the agreement shall be considered as containing information of a personal nature where the public disclosure thereof would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy under KRS 61.878 and not subject to disclosure.
How would someone go about getting that information? I’m genuinely curious.
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where are these numbers coming from.It should be a guarantee million dollar ticket when uk offers
I know for a fact the numbers on one of those guys is not correct. Not even close. So I would assume none of them are correct.
And it won't change if Cal were to leave. It would change if we don't have players we want to use for advertising. As an NIL participant I know how it works. We use 2 current players and one former player in our advertising campaigns. I think we will continue to use all 3 even once all 3 are former players.
I can't see that changing if the coach left. But it's a moot point. The coach is not leaving.
And it won't change if Cal were to leave. It would change if we don't have players we want to use for advertising. As an NIL participant I know how it works. We use 2 current players and one former player in our advertising campaigns. I think we will continue to use all 3 even once all 3 are former players.
I can't see that changing if the coach left. But it's a moot point. The coach is not leaving.
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