what will recruiting look like with Flint on staff and Payne gone?

[RunninRichie]

my main concern with this hire is a recruiting drop off for example look at this



During his short tenure Indiana rose up in the recruiting ranks by bringing Romeo Langford and Trayce Jackson-Davis to Bloomington. However, Flint was not considered the primary recruiter in either of those high profile additions. The 247 Sports database only credits Flint for four signees, most notably Robert Phinesee, none of which were ranked in the top 100 nationally.

 

[2Dope15]

Well who would want to go to Indiana in the first place.

 

[Kybluedude]

He can sell UK. Give him a chance. Lots of chatter about his big personality and charisma. Knows his way around. Could be a great hire. Worked his way to the big time.

 

[Lempface]

Everyone is super worried. We are Kentucky and we have Cal, give him a chance. When you have a product like this you don’t need much to help you sell it.

 

[mebeblue2]

recruiting will look the same

 

[kybassfan]

There is a difference between ‘come play for Cal and KY’ versus ‘come slog for this crap pit in IU’.

 

[Ron Mehico]

I’d be surprised if we can even muster a top 25 class anymore

 

[CELTICAT]

Is Joel Justus still on staff? If so, I expect it will look like it has since Nike stopped cutting checks for duke and adidas stopped cutting checks for Kansas.

 

[chattanoogawildcat]

I’d be surprised if we can even muster a top 25 class anymore

 

[HarnessedCat]

I’d be surprised if we can even muster a top 25 class anymore

 

[kl40504]

my main concern with this hire is a recruiting drop off for example look at this



During his short tenure Indiana rose up in the recruiting ranks by bringing Romeo Langford and Trayce Jackson-Davis to Bloomington. However, Flint was not considered the primary recruiter in either of those high profile additions. The 247 Sports database only credits Flint for four signees, most notably Robert Phinesee, none of which were ranked in the top 100 nationally.

As long as Cal is the Head Coach our recruiting will be fine. Kenny Payne was not here when Cal started at UK and the recruiting was just fine.

 

[Mike_Edwards]

As long as Cal is at the helm recruiting is the least of our worries. His least talented classes are better than 97% of everyone else’s.

 

[Orville Boggs]

We need shooter's!

 

[Baller Cal]

As long as Cal is at the helm recruiting is the least of our worries. His least talented classes are better than 97% of everyone else’s.

Exactly. This is way overblown, but par for the course here.

 

[kyups01]

Ask Davey koresh Kersey how recruiting will look under Flint...he has the insiders on speed dial.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Its not ALL about recruiting, remember. Assistants still do on court work.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

my main concern with this hire is a recruiting drop off for example look at this



During his short tenure Indiana rose up in the recruiting ranks by bringing Romeo Langford and Trayce Jackson-Davis to Bloomington. However, Flint was not considered the primary recruiter in either of those high profile additions. The 247 Sports database only credits Flint for four signees, most notably Robert Phinesee, none of which were ranked in the top 100 nationally.

You hit the nail on the head. Ostrom is the far superior recruiter. Flint is/was the guy who was supposed to bring in the east coast guys. The brand name UK might help.

 

[Ugoff]

You have to factor in the warm up pants.

 

[RunninRichie]

You have to factor in the warm up pants.

and those god awful warm up jackets that haven’t been washed since the early 70s

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Skyy clark went from telling people behind the scenes he was gonna reclass and come to UK........... to getting close to a commit and now wont reclass and word on an upcoming committment has gone silent.


coincidence or ...........?

 

[RunninRichie]

Skyy clark went from telling people behind the scenes he was gonna reclass and come to UK........... to getting close to a commit and now wont reclass and word on an upcoming committment has gone silent.


coincidence or ...........?

no. Cal probably told him to wait in 22 because he’s going after Hunter Sallis (prototypical cal guard) in 2021 to pair with Hardy.

 

[kl40504]

my main concern with this hire is a recruiting drop off for example look at this



During his short tenure Indiana rose up in the recruiting ranks by bringing Romeo Langford and Trayce Jackson-Davis to Bloomington. However, Flint was not considered the primary recruiter in either of those high profile additions. The 247 Sports database only credits Flint for four signees, most notably Robert Phinesee, none of which were ranked in the top 100 nationally.

So. Name the recruits that Kenny Payne was the main recruiter please.

 

[kl40504]

Skyy clark went from telling people behind the scenes he was gonna reclass and come to UK........... to getting close to a commit and now wont reclass and word on an upcoming committment has gone silent.


coincidence or ...........?

Mr negative is at it again.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Mr negative is at it again.

If you dont the timing is worth wondering about... then you're just choosing to be ignorant. It might be coincidence but its worth asking the question

 

[Hoskins21]

Payne hasn't been that involved much in recruiting over the past few years. Recruits mainly mention Justus and Barbee. He'll still be hard to replace.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

Think Clark family just didn't want him rushing with the craziness going on with things now. I mean you can't take campus visits, and why rush things to move up? If things change, he can still do it, but felt like it was rushed, and may have been on his mind/effecting his play, he didn't play well in that Atlanta event, and could've factored in to get him to relax and quit feeling like he's in a hurry when he has leverage of waiting. See how he performs here on out.

Kentucky will recruit well, just hard to duplicate the elite staff Cal had when he took over and then added Payne to it. When you have 3 elite guys in terms of contact/relationships, it's not reliant on the HC to do anything but close or the top Assistant to be spread thin.

As for the pump up commentary from a few UK media members--specifically KyleTucker, he listed names of guys Justus and Barbee were lead recruiter on. I can tell you behind the scenes that 5 of the players chose UK and had 0 to do with either guy. That's not a shot at them, they did their jobs/stayed in touch, but Bam Adebayo, Quickley, Richards, Maxey, and Terrence Clarke were heading to UK for various reasons. Boo Williams had most to do with helping convince Bam's mom it was good decision to get out of that deal with Adidas/NC State through Team Loaded. Clarke was done for UK last Spring, Quickley, Maxey, and Richards were UK bound when offered.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Was Flint a big man developer ? because thats one area we might really take a big dip

 

[FatestCat]

Was Flint a big man developer ? because thats one area we might really take a big dip

I just read an article that said he works mainly with bigs. He has had some really good defensive teams but seems to struggle on offense. He joined the IU staff because he likes Miller’s offense.

 

[420grover]

It will look similar to this.

 

[TheOtherGreatOne]

Was Flint a big man developer ? because thats one area we might really take a big dip

If Payne is so great in developing big men, what happened with Montgomery ?

 

[WildMoon]

When your recruiting pitch changes from complete BS to legit...

It's fundamentally different.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

PAIN

 

[MakinMusic]

Leave it up to Calipari to worry about that piece. He wants stellar recruiting as much as anyone, probably more. He knows what he has and what he’s getting.