New Starting 5
PG = Butler
SG = Brea
SF = Robinson
PF = Carr
C = Williams
1st Three of Bench
Oweh
Garrison
Kriisa
PG = Butler
SG = Brea
SF = Robinson
PF = Carr
C = Williams
1st Three of Bench
Oweh
Garrison
Kriisa
What is your new Starting 5?
- Thread starter Farsight
- Start date
PG - Kriisa
2G - Brea
SF - Robinson
PF - Carr
C - Williams
or
Kriisa
Butler
Robinson
Carr
Williams
2G - Brea
SF - Robinson
PF - Carr
C - Williams
or
Kriisa
Butler
Robinson
Carr
Williams
By midseason:
G - Kriisa
G - Chandler
G - Robinson
F - Carr
C - Williams
Chandler is going to be much better than any of us think. He's a former top 30 kid who is now two years older.
G - Kriisa
G - Chandler
G - Robinson
F - Carr
C - Williams
Chandler is going to be much better than any of us think. He's a former top 30 kid who is now two years older.
We now literally have two really good teams to throw at people. Quality depth wise AL, ILL and Kansas comes to mind but our depth may be more proven and older.
I can't remember a UK team going into the season where the 10th man has a legitimate chance to start.
Our 10th man (Almonor) is a legitimate scoring threat who hit 93 threes last season on a 39% clip. Chandler is also going to be better than people are projecting. I could see him starting at the shooting guard spot.
This but don't forget Almanor. I see him being quite serviceable as a 9th guy at 15mpg to drain a 3 and grab a tough rebound.
Have we ever had a team where all thirteen players are really good? Every player is really good at something and most are good at multiple things. And the majority of the team are hardened veterans that will not rattle easily.
All speculation as of now nobody knows who will start. The best five will eventually start. It's going to be earned and not given. You best believe it's going to be a battle in practice. What I do know we have a mature and skilled team with depth on the bench. I can not wait until our first exhibition game.
Yes! And our 3 freshman, one is the highest rated recruit BYU has ever had, and two are two of the best high school players the state of Kentucky has ever had. Pretty exciting.
I agree on Chandler. I'm not sure Robinson wants to start. He may change his mind on that one. I think Butler is a starter from day one.
G Butler
G Robinson
G Oweh
F Carr
F Williams
I am putting Oweh in to start, because of his play at both ends of the court. He can score and defend. At 6’4, 215 he is a phyiscal presence.
Butler/Oweh/Williams form a powerful core on defense. Robinson/Oweh/Carr give us scoring. That’s a good balanced lineup.
Also, Brea has said he likes coming off the bench, so he might stay in that role.
I think Pope goes 10 deep (listed in order of the minutes I think each plays):
G Kriisa
G Brea
F Garrison
F Almonor
G Chandler
Not totally sold on Chandler yet. I am going to say he is rusty after two years away from basketball and will need a year before he becomes a major contributor. If I am wrong and he is ready to go as a Freshman, then that’s a good thing.
G Robinson
G Oweh
F Carr
F Williams
I am putting Oweh in to start, because of his play at both ends of the court. He can score and defend. At 6’4, 215 he is a phyiscal presence.
Butler/Oweh/Williams form a powerful core on defense. Robinson/Oweh/Carr give us scoring. That’s a good balanced lineup.
Also, Brea has said he likes coming off the bench, so he might stay in that role.
I think Pope goes 10 deep (listed in order of the minutes I think each plays):
G Kriisa
G Brea
F Garrison
F Almonor
G Chandler
Not totally sold on Chandler yet. I am going to say he is rusty after two years away from basketball and will need a year before he becomes a major contributor. If I am wrong and he is ready to go as a Freshman, then that’s a good thing.
Beginning of the season
Starters
1: Butler 25 mpg
2: Brea. 20 mpg
3: Oweh 20 mpg
4: Carr 25 mpg
5: Williams 20 mpg
Subs
1: Kriisa 15 mpg
2: Chandler 10 mpg
3: Robinson 20 mpg
4: Almonor 15 mpg
5: Garrison 20 mpg
Deep subs
1: Perry 5 mpg
2: Noah 5 mpg
Pope will use more bodies early in the season and will test out different lineup combinations and sets to get a feel for the team. I think he actually may try to get a solid 10 man rotation early, and get both Perry and Noah some time against overmatched teams.
Later in the season, Pope will still keep a 10 man rotation, but will have figured out his starters and those guys will be getting at least 25 minutes per game. If the team stays healthy, Pope may be able to platoon in certain situations. This roster has good depth and balance.
Starters
1: Butler 25 mpg
2: Brea. 20 mpg
3: Oweh 20 mpg
4: Carr 25 mpg
5: Williams 20 mpg
Subs
1: Kriisa 15 mpg
2: Chandler 10 mpg
3: Robinson 20 mpg
4: Almonor 15 mpg
5: Garrison 20 mpg
Deep subs
1: Perry 5 mpg
2: Noah 5 mpg
Pope will use more bodies early in the season and will test out different lineup combinations and sets to get a feel for the team. I think he actually may try to get a solid 10 man rotation early, and get both Perry and Noah some time against overmatched teams.
Later in the season, Pope will still keep a 10 man rotation, but will have figured out his starters and those guys will be getting at least 25 minutes per game. If the team stays healthy, Pope may be able to platoon in certain situations. This roster has good depth and balance.
It’s a great roster when you have so many options as starters. My take:
Butler
Oweh
Robinson
Carr
Garrison
Oweh is an All-Conference player, IMO and Garrison is a man-child that will be a first round NBA draft pick next summer
Butler
Oweh
Robinson
Carr
Garrison
Oweh is an All-Conference player, IMO and Garrison is a man-child that will be a first round NBA draft pick next summer
pg - L. Butler
sg - K. Brea
sf - J. Robinson
pf - A. Carr
c - A. Williams
6th - B. Garrison
7th - K. Kriisa
8th - O. Oweh
9th - C. Chandler
10th - A. Almonor
11th - T. Perry
12th - T. Noah
Assuming sixth man will be Garrison because Williams will play least amount of minutes out of the starters. Robinson will play the most minutes which probably places Oweh as the 8th man rather than 6th or 7th. I also do not expect a large discrepancy in minutes between the sixth and eighth guys.
sg - K. Brea
sf - J. Robinson
pf - A. Carr
c - A. Williams
6th - B. Garrison
7th - K. Kriisa
8th - O. Oweh
9th - C. Chandler
10th - A. Almonor
11th - T. Perry
12th - T. Noah
Assuming sixth man will be Garrison because Williams will play least amount of minutes out of the starters. Robinson will play the most minutes which probably places Oweh as the 8th man rather than 6th or 7th. I also do not expect a large discrepancy in minutes between the sixth and eighth guys.
I’ll be shocked if Garrison plays much next year. I think some of you are living in never-never land. The kid hasn’t played competitively in two years. Maybe he gets some minutes towards the end of the year…
Strength in numbers for sure. The coaches will need to be good at dealing with minute distribution and handling egos.
You are getting Chandler and Garrison mixed up.
Garrison started at Oklahoma St. last year as a Freshman.
Chandler hasn’t played any competitive ball in 2 years. I don’t see him sniffing the starting lineup this year.
Kriisa
Butler
Robinson
Carr
Williams
Brea will play a lot of minutes
I agree with the lineup, though I could see Oweh making his way in there somehow.
Anyone else missing not having 3-4 freshman in the starting lineup? Yeah, me either 🤣
Right you are. My bad. My reply applies to those saying Chandler will have a big impact then 😎
If Oweh makes any jump at all he might be starting. He is the 2nd best defensive guard and can guard 1-4. He is strong enough to block out and such. He is good on offense but if he makes the jump from 11 to say 15 points a game, cuts down TO and such he will see the floor a ton and if Pope wants his best defense out there he will have Butler, Oweh, Robinson, Carr or Almonor and Williams.
Robinson and Brea need more than 20 minutes
PG starter is a tough call until we see them play in Pope’s offense. Maybe play both 20 minutes and go with Butler when you need defense but I wouldn’t play Butler and Oweh too much together as we’d be lacking shooting
Butler/Kriisa
Brea
Robinson
Carr
Williams
Oweh is your 6th man
Butler/Kriisa
Garrison
Almonor
That should be a solid 9 man rotation and hopefully 1 or 2 of the freshmen step up to get spot minutes
PG starter is a tough call until we see them play in Pope’s offense. Maybe play both 20 minutes and go with Butler when you need defense but I wouldn’t play Butler and Oweh too much together as we’d be lacking shooting
Butler/Kriisa
Brea
Robinson
Carr
Williams
Oweh is your 6th man
Butler/Kriisa
Garrison
Almonor
That should be a solid 9 man rotation and hopefully 1 or 2 of the freshmen step up to get spot minutes
I would say this is likely the starting lineup. Brea and Kriisa will be the situational/6th man of the year candidates and Garrison, Almonor and Chandler could be 6th men before the end of the year. We have very deep talent and 2 really good Ky boys who if anyone slips up or starts taking it easy might just snag serious minutes. I can't wait.
Hear me out guys, lets go with this starting lineup so we could have a backup 5 be the nuclear lineup
Starters
Pg- Butler 50% from 2pt range, great catch and shoot 3's, elite defender
Sg- Robinson - offensive player but really good defender as well
Sf- Oweh - 37% 3pt and over 50% 2pt, great defensive player
Pf- Carr - 38% 3pt and over 50% 2pt , good defender
C - Williams - over 55% FG , elite defender.
Ok this grew comes in and scores efficiently and just defends well, really wears down opponents then the nuclear lineup comes in
Pg- Kriisa - 42% 3pt shooter
Sg- Brea - 50% 3pt shooter
Sf- Chandler , said to be a very good shooter, if not him then Noah at 42% 3pt
Pf- Ansley Almonor - 39.5% 3pt shooter
C - Garrison - 57% FG and with shooters around him that will be even higher
and they can just go to town on teams tiring out
now who do I think will start, Butler, Brea, Robinson, Carr, and Williams. I could also see later in the year Kriisa , Oweh or Garrison improving enough to earn starting some games
Starters
Pg- Butler 50% from 2pt range, great catch and shoot 3's, elite defender
Sg- Robinson - offensive player but really good defender as well
Sf- Oweh - 37% 3pt and over 50% 2pt, great defensive player
Pf- Carr - 38% 3pt and over 50% 2pt , good defender
C - Williams - over 55% FG , elite defender.
Ok this grew comes in and scores efficiently and just defends well, really wears down opponents then the nuclear lineup comes in
Pg- Kriisa - 42% 3pt shooter
Sg- Brea - 50% 3pt shooter
Sf- Chandler , said to be a very good shooter, if not him then Noah at 42% 3pt
Pf- Ansley Almonor - 39.5% 3pt shooter
C - Garrison - 57% FG and with shooters around him that will be even higher
and they can just go to town on teams tiring out
now who do I think will start, Butler, Brea, Robinson, Carr, and Williams. I could also see later in the year Kriisa , Oweh or Garrison improving enough to earn starting some games
Butler
Oweah
Robinson
Carr
Williams
Halfway through SEC play, I think it could be Garrison over Carr. Brea and Oweah could swap, numbers alone can’t predict who it’ll be. We’ll have to see how the team plays together and what the early season numbers look like.
The good news is, Pope will play the best lineups.
Oweah
Robinson
Carr
Williams
Halfway through SEC play, I think it could be Garrison over Carr. Brea and Oweah could swap, numbers alone can’t predict who it’ll be. We’ll have to see how the team plays together and what the early season numbers look like.
The good news is, Pope will play the best lineups.
I understand top 8. But I seriously think 10 players will play minutes.
Not sure if you were around for the Pitino years. But after he got through probation. His teams played 10 in the rotation. 10th guy didn't always get huge minutes but usually got at least 8 minutes per game.
I think you are correct. Unless Robinson wants to be in the sixth man role again then I switch he and oweh. I doubt anyone will play much more than 25 mins a game. Popes planning on going a full 10 deep I think
PG. Butler. Good stable floor general. Great defender. Not flashy. Can get to rim, but won’t over penetrate to force a bad shot.
SG. The position is Shooting guard, and Brea can knock it down.
SF. Robinson. Swiss Army knife who does everything well.
PF. Carr. I think many are underestimating this guy. Really good outside shooter. Good handles for a big. Has a post up game as well and not afraid to mix it up inside.
C. Williams. Elite post defender. Very good on the boards. Good post offensive weapon with high BB IQ with passing skills.
Off the bench
KK. Not unthinkable to see him starting. More offensively dynamic. Has been a bit turnover prone in the past. Very good outside shooter. Tough. Won’t back down.
Chandler. Good shooter with good size on the perimeter. More athletic than some might expect
Oweh. Very physical specimen. Can finish at the rim in traffic. Slightly better than average shooter.
AA. Very good shooter from the 4. Very versatile defender.
Garrison. Not much drop off from Williams
Perry. Will get some run at point and some at the 2. If KK is having a bad night and/or a little out of control, I think Perry could slide in nicely
Noah. I could see him picking up minutes at 2, 3, or even 4. Probably a defensive liability at any position right now, but will improve with time. A scoring threat from anywhere on the court.
I don’t expect us to “platoon”. But I do see at least 10 players getting more than 10 minutes a game and 2 other guys capable of contributing in a positive way when called upon.
SG. The position is Shooting guard, and Brea can knock it down.
SF. Robinson. Swiss Army knife who does everything well.
PF. Carr. I think many are underestimating this guy. Really good outside shooter. Good handles for a big. Has a post up game as well and not afraid to mix it up inside.
C. Williams. Elite post defender. Very good on the boards. Good post offensive weapon with high BB IQ with passing skills.
Off the bench
KK. Not unthinkable to see him starting. More offensively dynamic. Has been a bit turnover prone in the past. Very good outside shooter. Tough. Won’t back down.
Chandler. Good shooter with good size on the perimeter. More athletic than some might expect
Oweh. Very physical specimen. Can finish at the rim in traffic. Slightly better than average shooter.
AA. Very good shooter from the 4. Very versatile defender.
Garrison. Not much drop off from Williams
Perry. Will get some run at point and some at the 2. If KK is having a bad night and/or a little out of control, I think Perry could slide in nicely
Noah. I could see him picking up minutes at 2, 3, or even 4. Probably a defensive liability at any position right now, but will improve with time. A scoring threat from anywhere on the court.
I don’t expect us to “platoon”. But I do see at least 10 players getting more than 10 minutes a game and 2 other guys capable of contributing in a positive way when called upon.
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