What is up.with the scissor kick three point shots this year

[W2R]

Watching UVA vs NCST. And the last two,threes taken the players kick their legs back,and forth when they shoot. Ole miss guards did the same last night. Chris jones also,does it a lot.

Aremtheymseriouslyntryimg to,draw,a foul,ever time they shoot? Is this,a new trend? Maybe it's me but if a player kicks,their legs like,that shooting the ball and draws,contact from the defender I just don't see who,that could,ever be a foul

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Um, been happening since the jump shot was invented

 

[zannmann]

I have noticed players flailing their legs a lot the last few years. Everyone is always trying to get a foul. Just play ball the way it is supposed to be played. The worse thing is the refs calling these phantom fouls. If they don't call em they dont try to get them.

 

[goingpostal72]

tyus jones at duke is the king of this.

 

[Mashburned]

F Kobe. He's a snake.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Vandy has had several players do this over the last few years. I personally think it's chickenshit to attempt to draw a foul in this manner. If it's your natural stroke, that's one thing, but for those guys it was not.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

I only see it done when a guy catches the ball going around a screen and shoots as soon as he catches it. Therefore he needs to turn his body in the air to square up with the rim so he kicks.

 

[runt#69]

 

[cats2010]

Originally posted by ZaytovenCat:
I only see it done when a guy catches the ball going around a screen and shoots as soon as he catches it. Therefore he needs to turn his body in the air to square up with the rim so he kicks.

I have no idea how you square yourself for a shot by kicking your leg out towards the basket. I shoot like that (coming off screens) all the time in my pickup games and never kick my leg out. It is a ploy to draw contact and a foul call. If I had to resort to that instead of feeling confident of just knocking down my shot, I would just quit playing.

this needs to be a point of emphasis in officiating. Stop rewarding offensive players who initiate all the contacts with bogus foul calls. Start calling offensive foul calls on this garbage play and it will stop.

 

[jimlowe7]

Grab that leg one time and take the foul but their sore butt would not let them shoot straight for a week or more!

 

[mj2k10]

Originally posted by Mashburned:
F Kobe. He's a snake.

I wondered if Kobe would get mentioned when I saw the thread title. He is the modern king.

There is a lineage with this, though, and certain guys have done it throughout the years, leaving defenders to wonder how they could get kicked and yet be the ones getting called for a foul. World B. Free was one of the first guys known for it, and got to the FT line over 10 times a game at his peak. It's a smart play if the shooter is capable of it. Ref sees a guy taking a jump shot, sees contact, doesn't have a lot of time to determine that, oh, yeah, the shooter actually initiated it by throwing out his leg. The downside is that the guys who do it tend to be relatively low efficiency shooters. You're not going to see a Ray Allen, or someone who shoots like that, do it (though Reggie Miller might have been the one exception to that).

 

[gojvc]

Originally posted by mj2k10:

Originally posted by Mashburned:
F Kobe. He's a snake.

I wondered if Kobe would get mentioned when I saw the thread title. He is the modern king.

There is a lineage with this, though, and certain guys have done it throughout the years, leaving defenders to wonder how they could get kicked and yet be the ones getting called for a foul. World B. Free was one of the first guys known for it, and got to the FT line over 10 times a game at his peak. It's a smart play if the shooter is capable of it. Ref sees a guy taking a jump shot, sees contact, doesn't have a lot of time to determine that, oh, yeah, the shooter actually initiated it by throwing out his leg. The downside is that the guys who do it tend to be relatively low efficiency shooters. You're not going to see a Ray Allen, or someone who shoots like that, do it (though Reggie Miller might have been the one exception to that).

I'm just thrilled that Lloyd....excuse me.......World B. Free got mentioned in a thread on Rafters. That's awesome!

 

[TexKat]

Is it not called shoot and sway I believe One they call Jodie Meeks did such a lot. Still does.

 

[BlueCat43]

Originally posted by mj2k10:

Originally posted by Mashburned:
F Kobe. He's a snake.

I wondered if Kobe would get mentioned when I saw the thread title. He is the modern king.

There is a lineage with this, though, and certain guys have done it throughout the years, leaving defenders to wonder how they could get kicked and yet be the ones getting called for a foul. World B. Free was one of the first guys known for it, and got to the FT line over 10 times a game at his peak. It's a smart play if the shooter is capable of it. Ref sees a guy taking a jump shot, sees contact, doesn't have a lot of time to determine that, oh, yeah, the shooter actually initiated it by throwing out his leg. The downside is that the guys who do it tend to be relatively low efficiency shooters. You're not going to see a Ray Allen, or someone who shoots like that, do it (though Reggie Miller might have been the one exception to that).

Reggie Miller did this A LOT!!!

 

[TruBluCatFan]

Allan Houston is all time SEC leader in this category.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[hotelblue]

napier did it all last season. and quite effectively i might add.

 

[Johnfarrel]

In most cases it is an attempt to draw a foul pure and simple. It ranks right up there with flopping with me. It's an unnatural move for most shooters and usually results in a miss.

 

[W2R]

I'm not talking about kicking out your legs on a jump,shot like,some have tried to,say



I'm talking about the guards that kick their legs sideways and scissor them back and forth like they are falling

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Some coaches actually coach that. I hate it. It is like flopping.


This post was edited on 1/8 10:37 AM by Bert Higginbotha

 

[StubbornPenny]

Andrew did it on his step back 3 against Ole Miss. I instantly cringed because it looked like he went up funny or hesitant on his shot. Of course, he nailed it... can't argue with results. But I've never seen him shoot like that. I can't believe it was to draw a foul, no one was near him. Looked awkward as hell.