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What is keeping our defensive efficiency down on Kenpom?

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We've been in the 40's and even 50s for a while, and despite averaging giving up 62 pts a game the last 6 games, we haven't moved up much at all. Only gave up 53 tonight and I think we went from 46 to 41.

Our offensive efficiency has moved up to 6th though. So, we got that going for us. Which is nice.
 
btt, I've wondered about this as well. KenPom updates so rapidly, I'm surprised to not see us trending in the right direction after some of these games.
 
I'm not positive but I believe defensive efficiency is measured by points allowed per possession and when a team gets offensive rebounds and scores that is counted as only 1 possession. A game like Texas A&M would kill our efficiency because, even though they didn't shoot a great percentage, they got so many offensive rebounds and didn't have many empty trips.
 
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Seems high but an SI writer on Leach's show this morning said Duke last year entered the NCAAs with a DE in the 50s and wound up in the top 10 after 6 games and a NC.
 
Seems high but an SI writer on Leach's show this morning said Duke last year entered the NCAAs with a DE in the 50s and wound up in the top 10 after 6 games and a NC.
I remember their AdjD drastically improving in such a short period around that time. I wish we could do the same this year.
 
I'm not positive but I believe defensive efficiency is measured by points allowed per possession and when a team gets offensive rebounds and scores that is counted as only 1 possession. A game like Texas A&M would kill our efficiency because, even though they didn't shoot a great percentage, they got so many offensive rebounds and didn't have many empty trips.
We also foul a ton and our opponents shoot what seems like 100 free throws a game.
 
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yeah it's mostly the free throws and the put backs

last year's team gave up a lot of offensive rebounds, but not that many easy second shots around the rim

maybe it was because they had duncan 2.0 and wc-s. hard to say
 
I'm not positive but I believe defensive efficiency is measured by points allowed per possession and when a team gets offensive rebounds and scores that is counted as only 1 possession. A game like Texas A&M would kill our efficiency because, even though they didn't shoot a great percentage, they got so many offensive rebounds and didn't have many empty trips.
A surprising thing about this year is that the amount of offensive rebounds UK is allowing isn't really much different than the typical Cal team.

UK has allowed 328 offensive rebounds so far, a tick over 12 per game (or 328/967 opponent misses, for 33.9%, if you want to go that direction).

Last year's final numbers were 11.9 per game, 463/1366, 33.9%

13-14= 11.0, 439/1338, 32.8%

12-13= 12.0, 395/1181, 33.4%

11-12= 12.1, 483/1490, 32.4%

What it looks like is that Cal's emphasis on blocking shots is almost always going to mean that the opposition gets the rebound on around 1/3rd of their misses. This year has clearly seen some really bad patches of not getting rebounds, but the overall numbers are headed right toward Cal's norm.

I think the real answer is fouls. This team fouls a lot, and free throws are very efficient possessions for opponents. This UK team is allowing close to 24 FT's per game. The numbers on that the previous 4 years: 17.2, 20.9, 17.8, 15.4. More fouls are being called this year in general, and this is where UK's lack of bulk/size really shows up.

And some of it is actually a fluke. Not only is UK fouling a lot (that part's not the fluke), but opponents are hitting FT's at 71.4%. Last year, that number was 65.9%, and though there's not a huge variation on that % (it's almost always somewhere between 64 and 72%), the number has only been over 70% four other times in the last 20 years.
 
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We were 29th in defense going into the Kansas game. We dropped to 50th after giving up all those free throws to KU and UT.

Been tough to climb back, and yes, free throws and giving up offensive rebounds seem to be the culprits.

The above poster is correct that offensive rebounds are subtracted from FGAs in the possession formula. Our defensive efficiency also took a hit vs. aTm because we didn't turn them over much.
 
We've been in the 40's and even 50s for a while, and despite averaging giving up 62 pts a game the last 6 games, we haven't moved up much at all. Only gave up 53 tonight and I think we went from 46 to 41.

Our offensive efficiency has moved up to 6th though. So, we got that going for us. Which is nice.

It's because of our tempo. This year's team is playing at a fairly slow pace. We're ranked around 250th in the nation with respect to the number of possessions per game. So even though we seem to hold opponents to a low point total, that is more a function of them having fewer possessions than it is our defensive performance.

Take the first Alabama game as an example. There were only about 60 possessions in that game, which is very low, so Alabama ended up scoring almost one point per possession. That's not a good defensive efficiency number.

The flip side is that our offense has been highly efficient by being patient and waiting for a good shot. Folks may have noticed what seems to be a high number of shot clock violations this year. That's not simply a function of the new shot clock. We're also using up most of the clock on each offensive possession by design.
 
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