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What changes will Cal make by next week?

I am not saying Kanter would not of been a stud. the conversation was about cal playing future lottery picks over other guys who may be able to help the team more. just made a comparison if Katner had played would Jorts of gotten the opportunity to be a role player and help this team. my answer was no. and we would never know if Kanter would of contributed in the areas Jorts did that helped us go pretty far. Kanter may of averaged a double double and been an all American. does that mean we would of made a run to a final 4? that's all I'm asking. of course Kanter would of been a stud. but would that team gone as far without the role play of a guy like Jorts? I'm thinking of team aspects not individual.
 
Dipping into our bench for any player is not the answer. i want to see us play better defense on the perimeter AND transition defense is an emphasis this week (not that its been poor but i think UL will look to run on our missed shots and get shooters open while we scramble) especially against Lee and Lewis. Cant give up so many wide open jump shots. I think the rest will sort of figure itself out...against louisville anyway.
 
It's a "point" that is based purely on hypothetical reasoning and your belief that Cal only wants players to get drafted and sacrifices team wins for that purpose.

Once again, I would like you or anyone that keeps making this "point" to show me a CLEAR case where that has happened.

Your Jorts vs Kanter argument is not one.
 
And please don't bring up the "twins shouldn't have been playing instead of Ulis and Booker" argument. It's tired.

Love Ulis, but he hasn't been setting the world on fire this year. Booker was getting torched on D and went cold well before the tourney.
 
Here we go again with the Willis hate. The kid barely gets minutes but when he does he scores rebounds defends and primarily contributes.
tell me this haters wtf has skal done the past few weeks? The answer is simple. ....NOTHING
So please stop posting that Willis isnt the answer because I can sure as hell say Skal isn't and I have many games to prove it.
 
Best hypothetical comparison i could make would be Jorts and Kantner. If Kantner was cleared i believe he would of gotten Jorts mins even tho Jorts could of been a better fit for that team to go far.


What? So a top NBA pick with much greater size and ability, averaging 11 & 8 in the league, would have been a worse fit than a player who never played and had to do 3 times the conditioning to just stay on the floor?


Lost me with this one.
 
mustnotsleepnow you just made my entire point. of course I do not think Jorts is better then Katner right now. I'm talking about 5 years ago on that team.

who knows what impact Katner would of made on that team. but we do know how important Jorts was. the point was I could see Cal at that time taking lumps and playing a Katner over Jorts even tho Jorts could of contributed more in a role to help that team win.

if Katner plays the style and system in my opinion changes on that team. now would that of benefited Katner or the team? that's what people mean when they say cal plays guys to not hurt their draft status.

who knows maybe Katner comes in and becomes that go to guy and we do not miss a beat. what we do know is with Jorts playing his role and doing nothing but focusing in on picks,rebounds and def we make it to a final 4. I'm not so sure if that team tried a different approach they would of had that success. I do know if Katner plays we definitely take a different approach. maybe it would of made us better maybe not. but I know at the end of the day Katner would still be playing for Okc today regardless.

Who is Katner? He related to that Kantner guy you mention? We had a guy named Kanter once. Never played a game so he's not particularly relevant to this discussion.
 
If you are implying that Cal stayed loyal to Andrew over Ulis just to help Andrew's draft status, then you are sorely mistaken. Last year Ulis only playing 15-20 minutes a game hid a lot of his deficiencies. This year you are seeing exactly why Cal preferred Andrew over Ulis.

Now that Ulis is starting and playing major minutes his shortcomings are being exposed. It's time to face the fact that even though he is still pretty good, he isn't as good as everyone made him out to be. Cal saw him every single day in practice and was able to see the things that the fans and media didn't see.

It's plain to see now that it had nothing to do with Andrew's draft status. Cal stuck with Andrew over Ulis because Andrew was the better player and gave UK the best shot at winning.
Huh? The same showboat we saw ignore the coach's orders to get the ball to KAT during the last two minutes so that he and his brother could try to make 50 foot jumpers with :01 on the clock, which cost us the national championship (and he admits it)? THAT Andrew was better? No.
 
Guess the first thing in question is will Skal start? My guess is he will. Do not see Cal changing up anything with Skal or his mins. I really believe Cal will stay with skal to the end. Cal has shown in the past he is loyal to kids and getting them drafted. If he sits skal it would affect his draft status. Just do not think cal would do that.

Will he get away from the 3 guard set? Maybe. I could see cal maybe putting Lee in starting line up with Skal and sit Brisco.

Will he get away from the dribble drive and just start setting up Murray as the go to? I hope so. The DD has become guys driving into the def. Coaches have packed it in and our guys seem to just get botched up with no options.

What will cal do with Poy? Will he stay loyal and keep putting him on the floor waiting for that lite to come on? I hope he gives willis and Mathews a chance. At this point i think we just need to accept poy for what he is and what he is not.

Interested in some of your guys opinions on what may be different going forward.

Do you think it's possibly we play Poythress and Skal not out of "loyalty" or trying to get anyone drafted, but because we're not going anywhere in the tournament without big men? I want to see more Willis, for his offensive abilities, but he's a small forward - as is Matthews. Poythress is very unfairly maligned just because people want him to be what he was hyped to be and he simply isn't. But he's a solid contributor and we need him out there. He's our best rebounder (13.1 per 40) and that's a big deal. We have to play Skal because Poythress and Lee alone aren't enough - they were both in foul trouble last game - and we have to try to develop somebody to be a third contributing big man.
 
Huh? The same showboat we saw ignore the coach's orders to get the ball to KAT during the last two minutes so that he and his brother could try to make 50 foot jumpers with :01 on the clock, which cost us the national championship (and he admits it)? THAT Andrew was better? No.
Hate to tell you, but UK isn't even in that game without the twins. Sure, they failed to get the ball to KAT a few times and were forced to take a couple of unbalanced, bad shots as the shot clock expired, but they also carried UK most of that entire game.

To blame the loss on them is downright nauseating because without them, UK wouldn't have even been in a position to win that game. Instead of trying to recreate the past to fit your agenda, go back and re-watch that game, I dare you. Pay attention and you'll easily see what UK's biggest weakness was, and Wisky exploited it like nobody's business.
 
I just don't get how everyone that wants change didn't expect this when this years team was recruited as the smallest of my memory. That's all I could talk about when someone would ask about this years up coming team and my answer was always the same, "they better be very D oriented for an up tempo game because they will be small on the boards and inside game!"

Sure DW can give more than Skal offensively "right now" but Skal needs to play smaller than what Cal is trying. It's obvious and Cal won't continue if it doesn't change by Cal's deadline.

This team is only going to improve if they change the way they play D (and shoot FTs lol). They have to have some break outs and create TOs. Let's face it, none of Cal's teams have ever or will ever be a half court offensive team with a bunch of set plays. Standing around and screening is what's became the norm so don't see it changing now.

Fight, physicality, and hustle is what is needed but don't know where they will get the motivation from for it to appear 35+ minutes at minimum per game.
 
I finally heard the changes he was going to make the on the Dick Gabriel show. He has decided to stop taking advice from message board coaches and strictly focus on the plays he sees being run at the YMCA!!!!
 
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