What a classy guy Meyers is
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Meyer is a Grade A pr*ck, all right. Wish he was UK's coach, though. He'd have us in the SEC Championship game within 4 years. Guy's a winner.
Or Oregon could have tried to Stop OSU from scoring. This isn't some pee wee league game!
The Ducks haven't missed a chance to score 70 points in 10 years, it would be dumb for OSU to stop when Oregon already scored one touchdown in a 7 second drive.
The Ducks haven't missed a chance to score 70 points in 10 years, it would be dumb for OSU to stop when Oregon already scored one touchdown in a 7 second drive.
I liked it. The game lasts 60 minutes. You should play for 60 minutes.
I don't know where this idea came from where NOT TRYING is showing sportsmanship. If anything, that's a slap in the face to your opponent. If one football team wants to quit playing, then they should do just that. Allow the team to wave a white flag and stop the game.
And like someone above mentioned, how many times has Oregon absolutely curb stomped teams over the years?
GBB!!!
I don't know where this idea came from where NOT TRYING is showing sportsmanship. If anything, that's a slap in the face to your opponent. If one football team wants to quit playing, then they should do just that. Allow the team to wave a white flag and stop the game.
And like someone above mentioned, how many times has Oregon absolutely curb stomped teams over the years?
GBB!!!
Game was in hand and they could have ran put the clock. It was the sportsmanlike thing to do. Defending anything Meyer does is a reflection of character.
I hate OSU but they did nothing disrespectful. The were not throwing the ball. They ran the ball in for the TD. I don't know why some think a coach should tell his players to quit playing. Like has been posted already Oregon is not one to show mercy to opponents and take their foot off the gas.
Very much agree. There are alot of good guys in the sport and I know most would've taken that knee and showed respect for your opponent. Absolutely no reaso nto score there and is a reflection of character from Urban Meyer.
I get what people are saying about its a 60 min game or play defense....blah, blah, blah......but you can show some class and not run the score up for your own ego.
This was a clear example of running up the score and was done so in very poor taste......pretty pathetic that some of you defend that.
IMO the taking the knee thing shows more disrespect than trying to score. I don't know why some think this is a show if respect. It always made me want to strangle someone on the other team and their coach. You cant stop me so I will show mercy and stop myself. Screw the mercy. If you are a competitor you would rather they bring it and try to stop them.
It's an example of making a statement to all of college football. They could end up winning 3 or 4 more. The SEC is declining. You can't tell me that Oregon was the #2 team in the country. They got that azz spanked. GOD I hate OSU
The sec isn't declining. Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia, etc are all still loaded with talent.
I didnt have a problem with OSU running a few plays after that (and Oregon pretty much had to go for it considering) and wouldnt have thought it was poor sportsmanship if they scored in that first set of downs. But they ended up with the first down and the game was over at the 2 yard line and Oregon showed they werent going to use any timeouts. Urban proceeded to run two plays to try and score. The classy guys in the business wouldve taken a knee.
it doesnt change anything in the game, just shows poor taste in winning.
Actually I think they did have two timeouts remaining. I was thinking if OSU took a knee that would be the sportsmanlike thing to do unless of course Oregon responded with calling a Timeout. It was still a two score game at that time so putting the ball in play was more of a risk for OSU than trying to run in a final score. Two scores down with less than two minutes to play is impossible to come back from when you don't have the ball. Not only was it bad sportsmanship to run in a final score it was also stupid. Suppose the ball pops out and Oregon scoops it and takes it back the other way. Now you have a one score game and Oregon going for an onside kick which gives them a chance.
That scenario is unlikely to unfold but you still give the other team a chance by being an *ss and running in the score. Meyer dropped to his knee when they scored as if they had finally sealed the game. The game was sealed when Oregon went for it on fourth down and failed. Meyer being an *ss kept the suspense going.
One of these days it will come back to bite someone. Only wish it had been Petrino the last game of the year trying to run in a last score on us when taking a knee would have ended the game.
Urban and Petrino are cut from the same cloth. What else would you expect from a guy who enabled a future murderer?
I've heard this debate for decades.
Argument: It's running up the score and classless.
Counter argument: It's the defense's job to stop the offense, not the offense's job.
Argument: You don't need to score to win.
Counter: Why deny your players a chance to gain yards and stats when they are on the field.
I have decided that I don't care for the 'classless' arguments. Score as many points as you can. If the NCAA adopts a mercy rule, so be it. Until then, keep scoring. You never know what can happen during a game. Sure, put in the scrubs if you want to, take a knee if you want to, throw it in the end zone. I don't care.
Wonder if those calling Meyer classless called Calipari classless for beating Kansas by 32 this year.
Argument: It's running up the score and classless.
Counter argument: It's the defense's job to stop the offense, not the offense's job.
Argument: You don't need to score to win.
Counter: Why deny your players a chance to gain yards and stats when they are on the field.
I have decided that I don't care for the 'classless' arguments. Score as many points as you can. If the NCAA adopts a mercy rule, so be it. Until then, keep scoring. You never know what can happen during a game. Sure, put in the scrubs if you want to, take a knee if you want to, throw it in the end zone. I don't care.
Wonder if those calling Meyer classless called Calipari classless for beating Kansas by 32 this year.
"For when the One Great Scorer comes
To mark against your name,
He writes - not that you won or lost -
But HOW you played the Game.
"Alumnus Football"
¯ Grantland Rice
Outdated in the modern world.
Win, baby, just win. Apparently I wasted my time trying to live and play sports by Grantland's rule, although I think I was as competitive as anyone on the field even playing flag football in my forties, my wife said I was the most competitive person she had ever met.
So, as Ole Miss was walking off the court behind him with a few seconds left in the game (after they played a great game) Ulis should have gone for the throat, he had a couple of players with a clear path to the goal, in ten years no one will remember how UK got their last two points and how he got that one more assist, what a dummy.
That is exactly the response I would have expected from that MF guy, but I am disappointed in one of my favorite posters, even wanting to have BP here if he could have made us a winner. I bet some of you guys are big fans of whatever they call that "sport" that advocates stomping a man while he is down, similar to the TU players idea of fun.
But I do feel a little sorry for Meyers, maybe it is Meyer, don't really care, anyway sounds like he has huge insecurity issues, maybe why he kept murderers on his team at Florida and gave them the impression they could get away with murder. He might have saved a couple of peoples lives if he had punished his star when he assaulted the night club owner. Listening to an interview with him on one of the talk shows this morning one guy asked him if he considered taking a knee at the end, his answer was he plays to win.
Poor guy, he was still worried about losing with a 15 point lead and the clock running out on the other teams two yard line with them not calling time outs. Sad, maybe he didn't take a long enough break from coaching.
Certainly it wasn't long enough for me, much like BPs break wasn't nearly long enough for me.
If you believe winning is the ONLY thing maybe some of you should switch to following UL, the perfect school for that.
To mark against your name,
He writes - not that you won or lost -
But HOW you played the Game.
"Alumnus Football"
¯ Grantland Rice
Outdated in the modern world.
Win, baby, just win. Apparently I wasted my time trying to live and play sports by Grantland's rule, although I think I was as competitive as anyone on the field even playing flag football in my forties, my wife said I was the most competitive person she had ever met.
So, as Ole Miss was walking off the court behind him with a few seconds left in the game (after they played a great game) Ulis should have gone for the throat, he had a couple of players with a clear path to the goal, in ten years no one will remember how UK got their last two points and how he got that one more assist, what a dummy.
That is exactly the response I would have expected from that MF guy, but I am disappointed in one of my favorite posters, even wanting to have BP here if he could have made us a winner. I bet some of you guys are big fans of whatever they call that "sport" that advocates stomping a man while he is down, similar to the TU players idea of fun.
But I do feel a little sorry for Meyers, maybe it is Meyer, don't really care, anyway sounds like he has huge insecurity issues, maybe why he kept murderers on his team at Florida and gave them the impression they could get away with murder. He might have saved a couple of peoples lives if he had punished his star when he assaulted the night club owner. Listening to an interview with him on one of the talk shows this morning one guy asked him if he considered taking a knee at the end, his answer was he plays to win.
Poor guy, he was still worried about losing with a 15 point lead and the clock running out on the other teams two yard line with them not calling time outs. Sad, maybe he didn't take a long enough break from coaching.
Certainly it wasn't long enough for me, much like BPs break wasn't nearly long enough for me.
If you believe winning is the ONLY thing maybe some of you should switch to following UL, the perfect school for that.
Bull!!!!! You don't roll over an quit. I ain't no Buckeyes fan by a long shot, not even close. But bunch of whining pansies, need to get a grip. This is big boy football. Pull up your jock strap and let's play football til the last whistle. They ran it right down their throat, up the middle. No passing, not trick plays, just power football.
This is the mentality of the everybody gets a trophy crowd. Suck it up and play defense. There was nothing unsportsmanlike about the last OSU TD.
I doubt it. They were lucky to beat Alabama this year, and would not have if Bama had stuck to running the ball. SEC teams will always give Urb close games and trouble as they are the only ones who can match up with OSU athletically.
Pretty pathetic to whine about the poor duckies getting their feeling hurt because they got beat by 22 points instead of 15. Geez. The name of the game is to play until the last whistle. It's not play until we think we've scored enough, and we don't want to humiliate anyone, because that would be politically incorrect to hurt a bunch of football players feelings, by scoring another TD on them.
This is the most ridiculous thread I have read in a long time, people it is football, you score when you have the ball. Period.
Yea, Im not a duck fan (couldnt tell you the name of more than 3 players) and Im not whining about it. I just disagree with the opinion thats its not running the score up.
There is such a thing as showing class and respect for your opponent. Some coaches with big egos (i.e. Meyer) like to feed that ego whenever possible. Urban scored to feed his ego. Sure its Oregons job to stop them and OSu has every right to score, but if Im the coach....Im taking a knee, no question about it. We won, I got my glory....no reason to continue to show up the other team unless something got under Urbans skin that the Ducks did (which may have happened).
We just diasgree - doesnt make me some mass trophy awarding, politcally correct pansy.
BTW, I've Stoops kneel on the ball....what are your thoughts for our beloved coach? Is he a politcally correct liberal, trophy awarding, pansy who alters the true meaning of the game to rack up points until the final whistle?
I would say he is a classy guy who handles both defeat and victory with humilty and respect.
I never like to humiliate an opponent but not sure this falls under that. The vast majority of coaches, I think, would have taken a knee because there is like a coaching fraternity out there and they don't want to show up fellow coaches too bad out of respect. The game was over at that point and there was no real reason to score.
But there are some that don't subscribe to that and wouldn't have stopped scoring had it been 70-20, like Spurrier, Helfrich, Meyer, Petrino. But, I do believe in karma.....and it will bite Meyer in the ace at some point just like it did Petrino. It always does......
But there are some that don't subscribe to that and wouldn't have stopped scoring had it been 70-20, like Spurrier, Helfrich, Meyer, Petrino. But, I do believe in karma.....and it will bite Meyer in the ace at some point just like it did Petrino. It always does......
You haven't seen Stoops kneel on it much, because we haven't been in that position that many times the past two seasons to be able to kneel on the ball "out of respect" for the other team.
As far as "altering the true meaning of the game" that is hogwash. The true meaning and ultimate objective is to win the damn game. If it is by 1 point or 101 points, that should be determined on the field. I am not a fan of taking a knee, nor the victory formation. If it is a CLOSE game, and you can run out the clock by taking a knee, then I am all for it, that is just smart football. If you are up big, I am in the camp that taking a knee is a bigger slap in the face to your opponent than running a play and letting them play defense. As an ex-player I can attest to the fact that if we were losing and the other team took a knee, it made me madder than hell. As a player you want to play, not kneel down, that's chickens%$#.
That's just the way I see it.
Play ball.
From his reaction to Franklin's trick play at the end of the Vandy game I would be very disappointed in Stoops if he pulled Meyer's trick at the end of a game. I suppose that Franklin's biggest objective was to build his resume, the game was too close to build his resume for his next big jump which he was already planning while talking recruits into playing for him at Vandy.
But I don't think Stoops will ever Stoop that low, and NOT because we will never be in that position.
But I don't think Stoops will ever Stoop that low, and NOT because we will never be in that position.
Whats your take on guys who dribble out the basketball at the end of games instead of scoring -- when the game is in hand?
I wish we had a coach like Meyer who other teams hate because he is a total winner....
I'd take a p%$ck coach any day if he knew how to win games at UK.
I'd take a p%$ck coach any day if he knew how to win games at UK.
It depends on the situation. They were up 35-20 with about a minute and a half left, and they were inside Oregon's twenty. Does anyone really think the game is not in hand at that point? If they used their timeouts, just force them to use them and kick the field goal. The only motivation for scoring there was to embarrass them. The only way they would have a chance would be if you committed some stupid turnover, so why wouldn't you just take a knee?
Know what would've cracked me up? If while OSU was trying to run up the score, Oregon grabbed the ball out of a runner's hands for a scoop six and then would be just an onside kick away from having a chance to send it into overtime. Then taking a knee would've looked like a genius way to protect the win.
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