They were 40 yards out. San Fran took away the quick outs. It made sense to try and pick up some yards. A pass to the end zone from 25-27 yards is better than 40 plus.
Well, that was one stupid call by the Cowboys
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No way that play was called from the sideline. First of all the coaches aren't stupid they would not have called a run. Secondly if you watch the play Dak dropped back surveying the field for open receivers, and apparently didn't find any. It was his decision to then run, which may have been a reflex action.
If true, and I’m not sure if it was called or Dak just took off, the play works if he slides sooner or get the ball to the ref or the ref moves his ass. But yeah it was high risk and a bad decision.
If you don’t understand throwing the ball up from 40-45 yards out if worse that 25-30 then maybe footballs not for you.
The refs tried to do the Cowboys a favor. The Cowboys self-spotted the ball a good 3 yards beyond where Dak started to slide. The ref tried to move the ball back but you can see it's still 1-2 yards beyond where the side judge was marking the new line of scrimmage. When the Cowboys wouldn't back up the refs just gave up and at least gave them a chance to snap it. If they'd actually gotten the snap off every single Cowboy should have been offsides.
The bottom line is the probability of scoring from that spot on the field in two hurried plays with no TOs was maybe 3% at best, so the dumb play was most probably moot.
That won't stop the clamoring from Cowboy fans/betters though.
That won't stop the clamoring from Cowboy fans/betters though.
Actually, it seemed clear it was a designed QB draw (I think the paper this morning said that as well). The problem I see is that even if successful, after the run you probably only get one play from the 25 yard line, a long shot at best, versus two or 3 more plays had you kept passing the ball, maybe draw a PI or holding, giving you free downs.
Just seemed to me to be pushing all your chips in the pot for one play, just not the best percentage to win, IMO. (Lets be honest, it was a long shot no matter how the Cowboys ran the last two or three plays, they probably lose anyway 98% of the time)
Of course, I also think that SF got royally screwed on the overturn of the first down at the end of the game, so poetic justice prevailed in the end.
Just seemed to me to be pushing all your chips in the pot for one play, just not the best percentage to win, IMO. (Lets be honest, it was a long shot no matter how the Cowboys ran the last two or three plays, they probably lose anyway 98% of the time)
Of course, I also think that SF got royally screwed on the overturn of the first down at the end of the game, so poetic justice prevailed in the end.
The ref has to set the ball. They should have known better. On a run with no timeouts everyone knows you need 18 seconds at least.
They didn’t throw it from 40 yards out or 25 yards out either though. It was an atrocious play call. If they had a timeout, you’d have a point. Dallas has no one to blame but themselves.
Same could be said about a Patriots fan prior to 2001. Eras and times change.
Now, tell me about Dallas’ rings from 1996 and earlier like the typical Cowboys fan. The Bengals have more playoff wins this decade than Dallas and only two fewer playoff wins than America’s Team this century.
Ball around the 40. You either throw 2 passes to the end zone from around the 45 or you pick up 10-15 yards and have throw to the end zone from the 25-28. Both option have a poor success rate. All I said was I like one play from the 25 more than 2 from the 40. To run the ball everything had to be perfect. If I’m Dak I may even tell the ref before hand to be ready to mark it. I had no money on the game. I only bet the horses. I just like good football and good games.
I see what you did there... and in-spite of another 10 win season have to agree.. that call was "Stoopishly Stoopid".. 🤪 Of course while we are on this chat board yakking it up, Mr. Stoops is likely somewhere thinking about how just to spend that extra $100,000+ per month he is now getting. 🤑😆
With the time, running the ball was always going to be too risky. They’d have been better served trying to get a quick 10 yard out if it was available. If not 2 shots at the end zone is better than hoping you can somehow spike the ball there.
The ref didn’t screw Dallas. The ref has to spot the ball. Not the center. Dallas was likely going to lose anyways but they really mishandled that last play.
Maybe. Burrow has a lot of intangibles and leadership qualities not seen since Boomer.
Are Bengals fans not allowed to be excited about the team’s future because of their past? Does being a (likely) bandwagon fan of a historical winning franchise make that person more knowledgeable than a fan of a bad franchise? Nope.
Your statement I originally responded to came off as incredibly arrogant. Every team has to start somewhere. Even the mighty Steelers were once a garbage franchise and the Lions and Browns were once very good.
No we’re not because everyone who assured us Burrow would hold out instead of playing in Cincinnati are now assuring us he’ll leave as soon as he gets the chance. After all, these people know what they’re talking about.
Good lord. I’ve heard it all. Burrow will be gone in a couple of years. Enjoy it while you can. I actually do believe the bengals fan do deserve a good season.
Isn’t he on record taking jabs at Cincinnati? Joe will end up in New York or the coast or Miami. Book it
No he’s not. He’s mentioned he doesn’t think there’s a lot to do in Cincinnati in terms of night life and doesn’t like the chili. Trust me, those of us that live in Cincinnati or are from there aren’t from there and don’t consider those things jabs. He’s from Ohio. He’s one of our own.
He is on record talking about how much he loves Zac Taylor and the organization. He has great relationships with his teammates. He isn’t going anywhere any time soon no matter how much you wish it to be the case.
If they were going to run a play that stupid then at least make "GET THE BALL TO THE REF" the last words out of the huddle.
That was a dumb call. I'd rather have two shots at the endzone from the 40 (hell maybe 3) with 15 seconds left than not get one shot by taking a risky call like that with no TOs left.
The ironic thing is their play calling on that last drive was brilliant up until that play call.
The ironic thing is their play calling on that last drive was brilliant up until that play call.
Have to agree with you. Further, the lateral they called earlier in the game, where the WR on a crossing pattern caught it over the middle and then threw it to the sideline was a brilliant call, just simply got screwed up by the WR who threw it over the other guy's head, would have been a big gain for sure, the guy on the sideline was wide open. And the fake punt worked perfectly too. Just made a really questionable call on the last QB draw.
I disagree. He’s an Ohio kid, has de facto roster control on offensive personnel decisions, and while the Bengals owner is cheap, he pays his QBs. Always has. They gave Dalton $100M FFS. And they’ll pay Burrow whatever he wants. He ended the curse. The keys to the city are his.
The Bengals skill group is top 5 in the league and the two outside WRs are younger than 23, QB is top 5-10 in his first full season and only going to get better, rookie kicker is a weapon, defense is average but not awful, offensive line sucks. They’re a couple good linemen, linebackers and DBs away from being a complete team. Average player age is 26. They also have the most available cap space of any playoff team. There’s plenty of money to go get a few more pieces.
Burrow mentioned there “being nothing to do in Cincinnati” as a tongue in cheek response to a media question about how the Bengals have been so fortunate with lack of Covid issues compared to other teams.
The ref had to come from the 50 yard line and he was hauling ass to get there. If he was slow it was only due to the yardage he had to cover. The bump from DP being in the way didn’t help and only seemed to throw the ref off even more as he knew the stakes and was trying his best to do what he could but he still has to do it the right way. Putting any blame on the ref whatsoever in that situation is not warranted.
If only he had run as fast to mark the ball as he ran off the field. Before you pounce on me that was a joke.
Magnificent thread made so much better by Ed's tears as he whines about the Bengals as only a Cowboys fan could. No way the Niners get any credit as well. Bravo!
The Cowboys have 3 players on offence that make 100 million a year combined, and they only scored 17 points at home. 7 of those points were a gift from SF. It's all the Cowboys.
Boomer is not half the QB Burrow is. Boomer was a fantastic regular season QB (NFL MVP in 1988) but when the playoffs rolled around he'd start throwing the ball high and the running game and defense had to carry us.
Also, all you guys that think Joe is going to leave Cincinnati don't know what you're talking about. He's an Ohio kid and he's not going anywhere. Hopefully a long and healthy career if we finally get him some help up front.
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