Truth of the matter, Cal can’t force anyone to return! I’m sure he has told some of them that they should come back, it’s their decision to make not Cals!
Well done Coach Cal...
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because we all have, lol.
movies have as much bearing on our lives as sports, but I bet everyone on here has complained about a movie, lol
For someone to act like they haven’t...lol
There is a significant difference between complaining or criticizing something trivial such as a movie, and a kid’s personal decision to forgo their amateur eligibility for professional options.
If that is something you do not see or understand ... then you are part of the problem—not the solution.
Before you start making personal attacks against someone—rather than the topic at hand—at least make sure that you actually have an [objective] argument yourself.
Yep
And if someone decides they want to be a pro player, probably time to quit calling them a “kid”
Most of these kids making these personal decisions are not even twenty-years-old; regardless, a young person opting to chase their dream as a professional athlete does not negate their status as a kid.
Freddy Adu started playing professionally for the D.C. United soccer club at 14. Coco Gauff was 15 when she defeated Serena Williams at Wimbledon.
Were they fully-grown adults when this occurred? No. They were simply child prodigies within their respective sport ... who happened to play professional athletes. But, they were still kids.
they’re over 18 and choose to be professional...they aren’t kids
Who changed course? I didn’t, you did; I was making an argument(s) in regards to personal decisions made by these players—you’re the one who brought up Cal and his alleged culture and system (neither of which he “created” like you claimed). I then challenged that—with objectivity.
We’re still waiting for you to bring forth an objective argument grounded in reason and facts. The only thing you’ve accomplished is a subjective opinion based solely on personal belief; instead of an educated perspective with factual evidence.
*Just what I figured.
No, you got on your high horse trying to dictate how everyone should think or feel about this situation. News flash, Coach, you are not my parent nor my boss, so you don’t have that right. Now I don’t know how you got so swoll up on yourself, you might want to back right out of this one.
Are they not kids because they’re a ‘pro player,’ or because ‘they’re over 18?’
You initially claimed because they chose to play professionally, then that’s what makes them an adult; now you’re saying it’s because they’re over eighteen; which is it?
I presented two kids—who were/are professional athletes—both of whom are/were under the age of eighteen. So are they kids or adults?
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ok. No offense dude, but I’m putting you in ignore. Take care. And, like you tried to do before, don’t think you “outwit” me. I just don’t want to see your posts. You’re tiring. Enjoy life dude and remember: you aren’t allowed to ever complain about anything else the rest of your life. Later!
I’m not dictating anyone. However, it’s objectively wrong to crucify a kid(s) for making a personal decision—which affects no one but themselves—about their professional aspirations.
And, you’re right, I’m not your guardian and I have not and will not tell you what your opinion should be; but, I am someone who can tell you that if you crucify and criticize kids who make a personal decision for themself, then you are objectively wrong.
You have a right to your opinion; however, that opinion can still be objectively wrong. Also, we’re still waiting for you to bring forth an objective argument relevant to the topic. And you still haven’t...
You responded [first] to me with a personal attack against me—which was egregious and objectively wrong—that had no merit or relevance to the topic of discussion. You continued to do that without any objective argument and I countered every senseless point you made with factual evidence or claims.
If I were you, I would walk away, too. You chose to defend arrogant and ignorant people who lack any rational reason for crucifying young men about decisions they make that are irrelevant to the public. You attacked me and continued to—that’s your fault all of it was thrown back in your face.
You have a personal right to a public forum and discussion; but, don’t get upset when people utilize intelligence and objective claims as the basis of their rational arguments to counter your subjective opinions.
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Can't have your cake and eat it too.
We are all tired of it. We just don't blame it on Cal.
Well I am still waiting for you to show me where I crucified anybody. Put up or shut up time.
so, should we all bow down and worship your perceived intelligence? When someone has to toot their own horn, they lose the debate. You accuse me of something, but have yet to show any facts, since you keep spouting off about facts, where is your facts? Welcome to my ignore button, you can go there with the other buffoons, I had to ignore.
Man you are not very well liked around here.
All three schools who recruit ‘one and done’ talent. UCONN and Villanova have one more National Title each since Cal has been here; other than that, UK is beating all of them in all other statistics in terms of winning. North Carolina has the same recruits and would have missed the Tournament this year if it had not been cancelled.
In terms of their entire body of work: no one has done more than Cal at Kentucky since he was hired in the spring of 2009.
We’re one bad shooting game and a couple of missed/bad calls away from at least three more National Titles.
I think we’ve done well considering everything.
In terms of their entire body of work: no one has done more than Cal at Kentucky since he was hired in the spring of 2009.
We’re one bad shooting game and a couple of missed/bad calls away from at least three more National Titles.
I think we’ve done well considering everything.
I gotta say, it's pretty remarkable to sign the #1 class, while backing off 3 different 5-star players, and with schools like Auburn, Duke, Arizona and LSU buying players.
That's unreal. He's winning fights blindfolded.
That's unreal. He's winning fights blindfolded.
They don't have to put up with it on RR, just don't click on those threads
You are right; but, I think it can be said for those on the other side too—it really goes both ways. Unfortunately, a lot of it gets entangled into other threads and topics on the board.
This thread went South in a hurry.
No one ever wins an argument if neither side can come to a mutual agreement or understanding; everyone loses.
Coming from you.
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You and Bassfan are laughed at more than anyone on this board. Taking a break from play station?
Do you realize how many hours you’ve spent the last few days complaining and expressing anger and negativity about Kentucky basketball?Coming from you.
If I felt that way about a girlfriend, I’d leave.
If I felt that way about my wife, and no kids were involved, I’d divorce her.
If I felt that way about my house, I’d sell it.
Why devote so much time to something that brings you no joy, just misery, bitterness and anger?
I don’t think you are a troll like Zaytoven and several others. I believe you are a Kentucky fan. I just don’t know why.
This is a chat room, right? We are supposed to have an exchange if ideas, information, opinions, etc.
Cal is the perfect coach for this job. I do not want another single person at the head of our program. I love aspects of his philosophy and am not enamored with others. That's my opinion; others have their opinions and that's OK.
Equally frustrating about you being tired of whiners and complainers is that we occasionally see that kind of post. Not everyone will agree on things. People have a right to complain and to disagree. There is no way that people can make every post suit your personal needs. You should anticipate that when you come here, so why waste time complaining about the complainers? Again, it's a chat room, the purpose of which is to comment and share information. "Complaining" voices have a right--under the rules--to air their views in ways that they choose. You have the option to read them, but to complain and want them silenced is more than a bit out of bounds.
All you have to do is notice what most of my posts are about. I have never made a secret that I hate the OAD, but I tolerate it. Most of the back and forth I get into on here is with other posters, you know the ones, the ones that think they can dictate what a real fan is, tell other how to think and feel, agree with them or you are a troll, not a true fan,etc, the ones that refuse or can not have a civil debate about the current status of UK basketball, instead they hurl insults and name call, the ones that think they are smarter than every one else. I literally despise those types of people and I love ruffling their feathers. I love UK basketball, I think Cal is the perfect fit. Does that mean I support everything he says and does, NO. Do I wish he would mange to keep some guys around, YES. My biggest beef is with the culture we have here and the pompous posters that think their shit don’t stink. Hope this clarifies a few things for you.
I’m not here to be liked. But what I don’t do is piss on the program I love. You take ever chance you have to crap on cal and the players. Grow up.Coming from you.
I am not here to be liked either and nor am I a hypocrite. Like a few others here. I do not piss on the program, I ruffle feathers, you proved my point. You don’t really care about the program, if you did you would be upset about what’s going on with it. You are a coach lover.
I loved Hall. I loved Sutton. I loved pitino. I loved billy until I didn’t. And I love cal. What do all those coaches have in common? They coach U.K. the team and state I love.
I tend to somewhat agree , but to be fair, if they can forgo their amateur status to play professionally they’re not really kids anymore are now are they?
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