Weakest NBA championship team I can remember

[UKcats1988]

Here are some league averages over the last two seasons and some random 90's, 80's seasons if anyone was curious.

Three Point %
2014-15- 35%
2013-14- 36%
1997-98- 35%
1993-94- 33%
1990-91- 32%
1991-92- 33%
1988-89- 32%
1985-86- 28%

Effective FG%
2014-15- 50%
2013-14- 50%
1997-98- 48%
1992-93- 49%
1987-88- 49%
1984-85- 49%

Turnover %
2014-15- 13.3
2013-14- 13.6
2002-03- 14
1996-97- 14.8
1994-95- 14.6
1987-88- 14.3
1985-86- 14.9
1982-83- 15

Pace(possessions per 48 minutes)
2014-15- 93.9
2013-14- 93.9
2003-04- 90.9
1998-99- 89.9
1996-97- 90.1
1994-95- 92.9
1986-87- 100.8
1985-86- 102.1

 

[.S&C.]

so basically the NBA is right now as good or better than it's ever been. Basically what most everyone thought.

We have a favorite era of the 80s and 90s because of nostalgia. That's pretty much it. 20 years from now the 30-40 year olds are gonna claim now was the best era.

You can't compare eras that way. The man in front of them, style, etc...boring. ..........anyway.....

So, the 80's and 90's couldn't be a better era?

It's 100% nostalgia that one league could have out performed the other.

Well shit I guess that's fair.

 

[fatguy87]

I know that those numbers are lies because AAU is destroying the fundamentals of youth basketball players.

 

[Hoskins91]

You can't compare eras that way. The man in front of them, style, etc...boring. ..........anyway.....

So, the 80's and 90's couldn't be a better era?

It's 100% nostalgia that one league could have out performed the other.

Well shit I guess that's fair.

Do you have anything actually concrete to offer or are you just going to continue to ignore everything in favor of what you think you remember?

 

[mj2k10]

Again, please explain to me how the 80's and 90's generation couldn't be a better product, you being the board expert on EVERYTHING and all. Show me that logic tough guy.

Actually, just forget it, because you can't . You're you, and you and logic only exist in your own little version of it.

With so many believing the product is not as good, i'll leave you to your "own" version of the word logic.

Who, exactly, is "so many"?

YOU don't like the NBA as much as you used to, for whatever reason, and then you do 2 things: You romanticize the past, and you generalize your opinion and try to make it seem like a majority view. If it was the majority view, that would make it pretty hard to explain why the NBA's TV contract keeps skyrocketing up, why interest in the league is up, why player salaries are up.

Many, if not most, people are biased towards things from their youth. Not everyone takes that bias and tries to generalize it as some kind of hard truth. But you do. Because you're not very bright.

 

[NavyCatFan2012]

Is it BBM yet?!

 

[UK90]

Three Point %
2014-15- 35%
2013-14- 36%
1997-98- 35%
1993-94- 33%
1990-91- 32%
1991-92- 33%
1988-89- 32%
1985-86- 28%

Funny thing about this is the mantra those who worship the 80s NBA like to fall back on is the malarkey about "Well, yeah, today's guys are more athletic but back then they had better outside shooting and fundamentals..." And then when you present evidence like this clearly indicating that today's players are not just better shooters, but vastly better, they STILL won't admit anything. Instead they just cover their eyes, plug their ears, and try to take their brain to their Larry and Magic happy place until the mean guy presenting actual factual evidence goes away.

It's all bullshit. Today's NBA players are not just better athletes, they are also better shooters, have better ballhandling skills (especially amongst big guys), are better passers, and are better defenders (especially on the perimeter). On average simply better players.

 

[twocoach]

What the hell is your point? That list is meaningless. Do you now how many scrub ass players I could throw up right now? I mean, the list would be endless. The league is a freakin who's who of, well, who the hell is who? Most SPORTS FANS cannot even give you a decent rundown on the league today. The product sucks compared to what people have been accustomed to.

I believe something that a majority on the matter believe. The league is not as good as it was in the 80's and 90's. As a matter of fact, the only people that usually believe it is, are YOUNG PEOPLE who have never really watched or looked at just how great the era was. They just know what they've lived through and that's typically a few sunrises.

Btw dipshit....Good luck on catching Uconn and keeping the University of Florida off of your titles total. Maybe you can get that big 7th win against UK sometime in this 100 years.

There's a difference between the league not being as good now as it was in the 80s and 90s and you simply liking today's NBA LESS than you liked it back in the 80s and 90s. My guess is that you were in your teens/20s during the 80s/90s and like every person on the planet, you have a fondness for things from that time ion your life. The music people listened to at that time in their life tends to be their favorite and the same with their sports. The simple FACT is that the NBA is statistically better now than it was then, just like it was statiscally better then than it was 30 years prior to then.

You can state that you liked it better then and no one would argue with you because that's just your preference but to continue to try to convince us of a fact that is simply not true is an exercise in futility. No matter how many times you say it, it won't make it be true. It's not.

 

[GonzoCat90]

You can "like" a 57 Corvette better than the new one, but it isn't faster or better in the corners or safer or more comfortable or more fuel efficient or anything else. Your preference for a particular style doesn't equate to a superior product.

 

[UKgreatinmyveins]

Where did that come from?? Thought he was talking about GS?

Forgoing important years of college...that us where it came from...did you see what i even reaponded too????

 

[WitnessGreatness]

I always get a laugh when people that love college basketball bash the NBA and how terrible it is. I like college basketball and all but the NBA is better in literally every way.

 

[UKgreatinmyveins]

Here are some league averages over the last two seasons and some random 90's, 80's seasons if anyone was curious.

Three Point %
2014-15- 35%
2013-14- 36%
1997-98- 35%
1993-94- 33%
1990-91- 32%
1991-92- 33%
1988-89- 32%
1985-86- 28%

Effective FG%
2014-15- 50%
2013-14- 50%
1997-98- 48%
1992-93- 49%
1987-88- 49%
1984-85- 49%

Turnover %
2014-15- 13.3
2013-14- 13.6
2002-03- 14
1996-97- 14.8
1994-95- 14.6
1987-88- 14.3
1985-86- 14.9
1982-83- 15

Pace(possessions per 48 minutes)
2014-15- 93.9
2013-14- 93.9
2003-04- 90.9
1998-99- 89.9
1996-97- 90.1
1994-95- 92.9
1986-87- 100.8
1985-86- 102.1

The league was 20x more physical in the 80s 90s.......id like to see the free throw %...fundementals these days are gone due to AAU.

 

[mj2k10]

The league was 20x more physical in the 80s 90s.......id like to see the free throw %...fundementals these days are gone due to AAU.

Typical.

FT % is slightly higher now than it was for most of the 90's, but FT% hasn't changed by more than a few % points for about 60 years now.

BTW, "gold old days" (total fool of a) guy, here are some UK-related numbers for you.

1954 (undefeated) team FT %- 67.8 (and then 63% the next year)

Number of UK players with a career FT% over 80- 29

Number of those guys who've played the last 10 years- 8

 

[1war]

The league was 20x more physical in the 80s 90s.......id like to see the free throw %...fundementals these days are gone due to AAU.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html

 

[Hoskins91]

The league was 20x more physical in the 80s 90s.......id like to see the free throw %...fundementals these days are gone due to AAU.

Late 90's maybe. You watch people play defense in the 80's you'll notice a much bigger an emphasis is put on it now.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Late 90's maybe. You watch people play defense in the 80's you'll notice a much bigger an emphasis is put on it now.

Yup. Not to mention the removal of illegal defense (allowing zones) gave rise to the Thibodeau-style 5 guys on a string defense that strangles offenses in ways they could only dream about in the 1980s and 1990s. People always focus on the hand checking stuff, but the zone defense allowance has had a profound impact on how NBA teams have to create offense. It affects all aspects of defense/offense by allowing people to help without committing to a double team.

Still can't believe how many troglodytes are so caught up in nostalgia and simple and wrong tropes (no fundamentals, no defense, AAU ruining everything, kids should stay in school to improve, too many 3s, lack of skills, etc...). It's like deliberate self-delusion.

We can all acknowledge that the NBA right now is awesome, the Warriors are awesome, Lebron is awesome, Jordan was awesome, Bird was awesome, Magic was awesome, that the 1980s had some awesome rivalries/teams (and a very polarized distribution of talent), that there are good and bad players in every era, and that Pat Riley was sent (by the FIFA or the NHL) to destroy basketball - and he nearly succeeded with his Knicks/Heat teams.