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Washington QB...

Could be there is just that big of a difference between the big 10 and the pac 12 or it could be a one off and a bad game by the guy.

Next season will tell everyone a lot about these west coast schools.

Don’t know if any qb had a good game against Michigan all year long. I doubt it though.
 
Based on this game, this guy is vastly overrated! Horrible motion, inaccurate and soft.
He’s been tremendous all season long (and almost all of last season too).

Yes, tonight was different, but Michigan brought more defensive pressure than he’d seen all season (which also made Milroe and Alabama’s offense look inept, btw), and the Natty game is a different sort of thing.

One would be quite foolish to write him off based on this alone. After all, he is the guy most responsible for UW winning 21 straight games and reaching the national title game.
 
Tough to do anything when an already talented defense can sit back in a packed zone and get massive pressure rushing just 4. Washington's OL was just way outmatched.

Really tough matchup for them. In reality they went further than they should. Texas was the better team for sure, but Washington just had an elite QB that made the difference. He just had .5 seconds longer that game and that's all he needed.
 
Playing against formally Pac 12 defenses will make you look good. Their Oline because of that conference was rated as the best Oline in college football. Yet Michigan got pressure only rushing 4 all night.
I was skeptical of that also until I watched him against Texas . Now I don’t know what to think.
 
One play when he threw high he just looked really scared. He didn't even end up getting hit, but he flinched as soon as he let the ball go, thinking he was going to get hit. The guy was wide open and it was an easy throw, but he was worried more about getting hit than he was making the completion. He will have to get more tough to make it in the NFL. You have to stand in the pocket and make a throw in the league .
 
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Yes, tonight was different, but Michigan brought more defensive pressure than he’d seen all season (which also made Milroe and Alabama’s offense look inept, btw), and the Natty game is a different sort of thing.
This.. I can't remember seeing a defense so quick on the upfront guys.
 
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Could be there is just that big of a difference between the big 10 and the pac 12 or it could be a one off and a bad game by the guy.

Next season will tell everyone a lot about these west coast schools.

Don’t know if any qb had a good game against Michigan all year long. I doubt it though.
Michigan front 7 owned the line of scrimmage
 
It didn’t look that way in their first 14 games.
And he played in pac 10 which is just not the same as sec and some big 10 styles

This is why it was always silly to pretend FSU without Travis was worthy of playoff…and in retrospect why many argued Washington was not going to show well as pac 10 inflated expectations

We were a hair away from bouncing Bama out and sticking FSU in their place….how good would that have been?

So as we morph to 12 teams playoff…..and the argument will not move on to schools like ole miss , Tennessee; LSU, etc vs some of the undefeated big 12 leftovers, acc teams…and they will look bad vs top notch teams
 
In my opinion several of the missed passes were due to the Michigan DB's grabbing and holding on the routes the receivers were running which was throwing off the timing. I only watched the first half and saw at least 4-5 routes that they should have been flagged for and they didn't get any.
 
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In my opinion several of the missed passes was due to the Michigan DB's grabbing and holding on the routes the receivers were running which was throwing off the timing. I only watched the first half and saw at least 4-5 routes that they should have been flagged for and they didn't get any.
Agreed here....you can tell the difference in NFL vs. college rules on how much contact after 5 yards is fair game in college (and it's defensive holding for pete sake)
 
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Missed throws and dropped passes were the story for Washington last night - that sounds all too familiar to us.
 
He’s been tremendous all season long (and almost all of last season too).

Yes, tonight was different, but Michigan brought more defensive pressure than he’d seen all season (which also made Milroe and Alabama’s offense look inept, btw), and the Natty game is a different sort of thing.

One would be quite foolish to write him off based on this alone. After all, he is the guy most responsible for UW winning 21 straight games and reaching the national title game.
He limped off the field at one point after a hard hit where someone stepped on his foot. He may have been in pain the rest of the game.
 
Completion is weak in pac 12 and big 12 doesn't play d either. He played a legit d tonight.
That same defense made Milroe look terrible too...Michigan's defense is just that good. Milroe threw for his fewest yards of the season (by far), had his lowest QBR of the season (by far), and was held scoreless through the air and on the ground for the first time this season.

I don't think that was a PAC12 and Big12 thing....that was the best defense in the country showing exactly who they were...just like they did to Alabama.
 
Try not to judge a guy based on his worst game against the best team he played all year. Beat Texas just last week. Obviously a guy with his talent you want to play better in the biggest game, but he was beat up early, looked to have a rib/side/stomach injury pretty obviously limiting him. I don't understand the propensity of people to just come trash a kid who's had a great year and then lost to a better team.
 
I wonder if UW is going to run off their right tackle, like Bama did their center, after that awful performance? He had 4-5 penalties.
 
And he played in pac 10 which is just not the same as sec and some big 10 styles

This is why it was always silly to pretend FSU without Travis was worthy of playoff…and in retrospect why many argued Washington was not going to show well as pac 10 inflated expectations

We were a hair away from bouncing Bama out and sticking FSU in their place….how good would that have been?

So as we morph to 12 teams playoff…..and the argument will not move on to schools like ole miss , Tennessee; LSU, etc vs some of the undefeated big 12 leftovers, acc teams…and they will look bad vs top notch teams

If fsu had been in Michigan would have won both games by 21 to 35 points. At least beating bama they earned the title.
 
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What the game showed if you can run the ball and play defense you can still win NCs over those soft passing team.

Jesus Grump, that's the last thing we need around here. People thinking 1980s B10 ground pound football is back en vogue.

I'll give Harbaugh credit. He raided the south for the best OL and DL. It's clear they we're the difference.

I'm not willing to call it a comeback on running football just yet, but I think UM did kind of show that regardless of era, running or passing, there is one thing that holds true and transcends...if you can protect yours and get to the others you can win at a high level.

Big boys won.
 
What the game showed if you can run the ball and play defense you can still win NCs over those soft passing team.

Yep. That never goes out of style. Just proved it again. Just unbelievable the low number of times they turned over the ball and that's directly related to a physical OL and run game.



Interested to see if this changes the current fad of this style being avoided like the plague. Teams like UK, bama, and Georgia surely elevated their programs using this style that each now moved away from.
 
Try not to judge a guy based on his worst game against the best team he played all year. Beat Texas just last week. Obviously a guy with his talent you want to play better in the biggest game, but he was beat up early, looked to have a rib/side/stomach injury pretty obviously limiting him. I don't understand the propensity of people to just come trash a kid who's had a great year and then lost to a better team.
This is the same guy who threw for 400+ yds vs Texas a week earlier. Some days you're the windshield, some days you're the bug.
 
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