I give a slight edge to Wall. But Minnifield was a great athlete who was very talented as well on both ends of the floor.
Wall Vs. Minnifield who was the better all around guard.
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Wall was the better player in my opinion but Minnifield was very good.
I've been 29 for 22 years and running.
Yep! lol I told everyone (jokingly ) I was 29 this last birthday (I'm 33) but I think imma stay "29" for a few more years.
I was in Rupp when Dirk hammered that dunk.
If Dirk had played under Calipari (in a totally realistic scenario which in no way defies the laws of physics, time, or space), we have a different discussion. Loved Coach Hall but he was not exactly "guard-friendly".
Dirk was an amazing athlete, but he was no John Wall.
If he could've shot well from the outside...or at least average...he may have been the best point guard ever at UK. He's definitely in my top 3.
not slighting Dirk at all but if we are starting a season tomorrow and I have to pick a point guard the choice for me is easily Wall. He was a good mid range shooter and he wasn't awful from distance. People remember a single game in the elite 8 and his early NBA career when they reference terrible three point shooting. Even with "terrible" shoot I still take wall.
Wall was a supreme athlete and elite ball handler. Played really good defense, rebounded, would go get a bucket when you needed it. Dirk is before my time too though, so maybe that's a factor for me.
Wall was a supreme athlete and elite ball handler. Played really good defense, rebounded, would go get a bucket when you needed it. Dirk is before my time too though, so maybe that's a factor for me.
It's not a serious debate, Wall is on another level.
Wall is a star in the NBA. Dirk was never close to being that level.
Minnifield was really good.
Wall is probably better.
Different eras, hard to say.
Dirk and Anderson both super talented in Wall's class, but issues off the court kept them from reaching their potential...
Is this a serious question?..If so then its Wall.. no comparison
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How do you figure that Coach Hall was not "Guard Friendly"? I'd be willing to bet that Mike Flynn, Jimmy Dan Conner, Larry Johnson, Truman Claytor, Kyle Macy and Dickie Beal beg to differ. The offense was geared more to the "pound it inside" style of play but it didn't totally isolate the guards. Hall gets a bad rap because of the way he handled Jay Shidler but that was one incident. As for your argument about Minnifield, I always thought he had a lot of talent and would have performed much better in today's game. He played at a time where there was not shot clock and three point line. However, I do think that John Wall was better.
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At time, Dirk was out of control but toward the end of his career he developed into a leader. We really don't know how good he could have been given the restrictions of the shot clock in his day. During his tenure it was a given that almost every SEC team would slow it down against UK resulting in low scoring games. For example, it seemed as if every time UK played Alabama the scores were in the high '40's and low '50's.
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At this point in time I would have to go with Wall but MInnifield was very good. Probably one of the best athletes to play basketball at UK.
Wall...and comparatively it's not even close.
Dirk was a 4 year great college player. Not All American Great, but good enough that he was loved by all of us. However he only had a cup of coffee in the NBA. (He liked Weed too much.)
Wall played one...and left a lasting UK impression. And now he's top 10 in the League.
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Yeah, Dirk was just "blowing smoke" most of the time. Great athlete but not very smart off the court.
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Wall was better but it's not a fair comparison given the times in which both played.
I think the statement should read athletic guards unfriendly.
Macy, Beal, Hardin were all distributors, Claytor, Masters, Shidler were jump shooters - very good players for a Joe B. offense.
Flynn, Conner and Johnson, as good as they were, averaged around 10-12 points.
Blackman, Dirk, Anderson, even Hord (G-F), all probably excel more with a Cal-like coach instead of Hall.
Pretty much this. Dirk was a phenomenal athlete... Wall is in another universe.
The question is "who is the better player" not "who is the better player for 4 years vs one year".
Very fair analysis.
I doubt any of the above would have been a one-and-done Lottery.
Same thing with Rondo and Tubby. He would have been a superstar under Cal.
