Listen, you've always a good poster in my opinion... but this makes absolutely no sense.
Either you have it or you don't...as a coach. This isn't pedaling a bike up a hill for gawd's sake....
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Either you have it or you don't...as a coach. This isn't pedaling a bike up a hill for gawd's sake....
Appreciate post like yours, straight to the point, accurate, truthful and well researched. Many don't care about the truth, unfortunately they just love negativity. I've followed closely since the mid 60's and I've enjoyed, other than Joke's time here, the accomplishments by Coach Brooks and Coach Stoops greatly. Hopefully we kept Stoops a good while, but if he moves I hope we give Coach Sumarall a call.
IMO…Stoops is at UK until Ferentz retires at Iowa. I originally thought his son would be in line to take over at Iowa but I believe the offense has been so bad that they will look elsewhere. I think Stoops will be their #1 choice.
Simple question, if Stoops is such a coaching svengali why hasnt a bigger program tried to hire him. NOBODY better than UK has in 12 years,reckon why that is. My position is he is a mediocre coach at a mediocre football school. Hes not a bad coach and I am not calling for him to be fired, just saying that as long as he is here thats all we will be. If the fans and admin are okay with that let him retire here. If you want something more well it seems many are more afraid of failing than suceeding. Funny how that seems to be how he coaches games isnt it.
We pitched the ball all over the park, Saturday, with over 370 yards passing.
Because of his much complained of pay.
He has been very well paid, and only a few programs could have outbid us, very few.
And he did sit down with FSU three or four years ago.
I have some friends in Tallahassee as I own a beach house down there. They told me there was never any real desire to hire Stoops down there and they only talked to him as a last ditch option should there top 3 canidates turn the job down
I think you know my opinion of these “members” with brief accounts, or very thin participation. Some disguised redbirds, some basketball first folk, and maybe 30 percent are truly football fans.
When they really get under my skin, I offer to take their tickets and parking pass of their hands!
And then silence!
The silence of the spams!
Heresay is generally inadmissible.
Still, even such a modest report put Stoops well on their radar, and historically they are better than us.
His Troy team is scoring some points, along with a stingy defense.
He has 4 losses the last two years, two of them to P5 K-State.
I agree Stoops is doing great overall, I just wish he would have us better prepared. We should have won that Missouri and UT game. At least 1 of them.
I wonder if Iowa's OC (coach's son) not coming back next year might line up with the head coach leaving as well? He's 68 and probably was forced to get rid of his kid. Might just decide to hang it up. That's probably the only job we might lose Stoops to. No big school will hire Stoops with how he's done here and the money he is getting.
Fair. I bounced in and out viewing, trying not to lose my ish. That's production. I start to see why people are raking the defense. Seems we might then put it together soon, and the lack of defense complaint might be more on point in the "biggest current problem" debate.
I entered Saturday literally at the point where I'm having trouble enjoying watching the games.
totally agree. They waited too long to speed up the offense too. The Missouri loss was unacceptable
How do you know they haven't? It isn't something they publicize.
At any rate I think the Frank Beamer comparison to Stoops is interesting. Like Stoops Beamer was not a flashy guy and he had a habit of winning ugly, and he also had his share of losses and short comings he had to deal with. Eventually he methodically built a really bad VaTech program into a national power, but it was 9 years before he hit the 10 win mark and that was in the old Big East, He eventually went on to win 4 ACC Championships.
The grass is always greener on the other side ask Arkansas, Auburn, South Carolina, Florida - they keep going through can't miss coaches like I go through long necks on the 4th of July
Regardless of what people think, just about any new coaching hire is a long shot.^^^ This!!!
First, I think Stoops has done a very good job. But, the results of a coaching carousel are so dicey. Every school listed above has a rich football history, and they still have cycled through multiple coaches.
Some posters say “the fear of not hiring a great coach is loser’s mentality.” It’s not loser’s mentality. It is looking at statistics and evaluating facts without blind optimism. Do we really think Fla and Auburn do not want to hire good coaches and win football games? They got caught in the cycle of “next guy will be better” and it is costing them.
I agree 110% that programs cannot and should not retain repeated failure. But, UK is no where even close to that point. Sure, the wheels may fall off with Stoops driving the bus. However, we are not close to that point now.
I said this in another thread but it bears repeating...Stoops has never been told "no". UK has invested in football in a way they never have before. Stadium renovation, practice facility upgrade, pay raise, pay raises for assistants, increase in recruiting budget. To compare the past records/coaches to what is happening is grossly unfair in my opinion. It's ok to want more. I personally think he has peaked and I also don't put a lot of stock in OOC wins; too much MAC and it gives a false sense of where the program is. If UK is willing to pay the football coach 9 million then good candidates will be interested.
If Michigan is interested they are using the same logic that Baylor used when the hired guy Morris "if he can win 7 at Kentucky just think what he can do here" or Florida when the hired Mullen "if he can win 8 and MSU just think what he can do here". Problem is that logic doesn't work.
Good stuff. Hiring coaches is rolling the dice. Lots of guys who seem like great hires on paper, and "win" the introductory press conference, are fired before their second season ends.
Im okay if he goes… Make Coen the Head coach… bet he has some D-Coordinator connections…
Wouldnt be the first head coach to call his own plays…
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