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With today's news that U6 has gotten themselves involved in yet another scandal, it's probably safe to say they won't be playing basketball in a couple of years. Hell, U6 hasn't even had their previous scandal dealt with as of yet.

Longer term, you have to wonder who U6 will be able to hire to coach in that shit factory! I honestly think U6 is looking at the death penalty, and that will probably be followed up with heavy scholarship restrictions.

This could be the end of U6 basketball as we know it.

GBB!!!
 
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IMO, U6 has almost no shot of avoiding the death penalty. They didn't really appear to take the hooker scandal violations that seriously. They've kept Rick Pitino through two other scandals. The NCAA isn't going to look favorably at University 6 in any capacity.

I think the death penalty is damn near a lock at this point.

GBB!!!
 
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The death penalty seems to be a real possibility. But, that is a rare penalty and it really hurts the NCAA, other teams and conferences. So, I am doubting that is the result.

Pitino is gone. Should have happened by now, but will happen. He probably forces them to fire him, but that is inevitable. Jurich? Probably the same, but may get a chance to resign.

UL fans wondering who will be their next coach. Why would any reall basketball name consider going to the Cards now?

Any thoughts on who might take that job, assuming there may be a couple of years of ban from the tournament?
 
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Hell, I'm starting to think they may need to shut down the entire UL Athletic Department for a year or so.

The whole damn place seems so infested with a culture of corruption that I'm not sure how else to genuinely clean it out.
 
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I disagree Bob. If U of L doesn't get the death penalty at this point, there's no sense in it being an option. You're talking multiple scandals under the SAME head coach. Serious scandals. They're essentially daring the NCAA to kill the program.

kyups1, North Carolina is gonna get absolutely hammered IMO. They've totally failed to take responsibility for their issues. Hell, they basically told the NCAA yeah, the classes were fake, and it's none of your business.

GBB!!!
 
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I think that's the point, UKErik - I think it's no longer really a viable option. Believe the NCAA has said as much, after they saw what happened to SMU football after the last time they handed it down. It really is an un-recoverable thing.....
 
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UKErik said:
With today's news that U6 has gotten themselves involved in yet another scandal, it's probably safe to say they won't be playing basketball in a couple of years. Hell, U6 hasn't even had their previous scandal dealt with as of yet.

Longer term, you have to wonder who U6 will be able to hire to coach in that shit factory! I honestly think U6 is looking at the death penalty, and that will probably be followed up with heavy scholarship restrictions.

This could be the end of U6 basketball as we know it.

GBB!!!
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I would gladly pay another $100 a year in taxes to prop up the Yum Center if that should be the case
 
Mojocat, yeah, I get that, but I'm guessing U6 will be in the cross hairs. It isn't just that they've had back-to-back major infractions. That's bad, but their resistance to accepting responsibility combined with their refusal to fire Rick Pitino is going to haunt them IMO.

GBB!!!
 
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Mojocat said:
I think that's the point, UKErik - I think it's no longer really a viable option. Believe the NCAA has said as much, after they saw what happened to SMU football after the last time they handed it down. It really is an un-recoverable thing.....
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I think you may be right. I remember reading somewhere that the NCAA said they would not use the Death penalty again.
 
  • The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation for one or two sport seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from involvement (directly or indirectly) in any coaching activities at the institution during that period
That's from the link above.

GBB!!!
 
Looks like Pat Forde is in agreement with me (LOL).

why_not_kentucky, I wouldn't sweat it. Mitch Barnhart would rather go 0-31 every year than cheat. I'm guessing UK basketball has more checks and balances in place than the U.S. constitution (hahahaha)!

GBB!!!
 
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UKErik said:
With today's news that U6 has gotten themselves involved in yet another scandal, it's probably safe to say they won't be playing basketball in a couple of years. Hell, U6 hasn't even had their previous scandal dealt with as of yet.

Longer term, you have to wonder who U6 will be able to hire to coach in that shit factory! I honestly think U6 is looking at the death penalty, and that will probably be followed up with heavy scholarship restrictions.

This could be the end of U6 basketball as we know it.

GBB!!!
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The University formally known as UL, is now referred to as U6.
 
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From Erik's link:

What is the “death penalty”?

The repeat-violator legislation (“death penalty”) is applicable to an institution if, within a five-year period, the following conditions exist:

  • Following the announcement of a major case, a major violation occurs and
  • The second violation occurred within five years of the starting date of the penalty assessed in the first case. The second major case does not have to be in the same sport as the previous case to affect the second sport.
  • Penalties for repeat violators of legislation, subject to exemptions authorized by the committee on the basis of specifically stated reasons, may include any of the following:
    • The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation for one or two sport seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from involvement (directly or indirectly) in any coaching activities at the institution during that period
    • The elimination of all initial grants-in-aid and recruiting activities in the sport involved in the latest major violation in question for a two-year period.
    • The requirement that all institutional staff member serving on the NCAA Board of Directors; Leadership, Legislative, Presidents or Management Councils; Executive Committee or other Association governance bodies resign their positions. All institutional representatives shall be ineligible to serve on any NCAA committee for a period of four years and
    • The requirement that the institution relinquish its Association voting privileges for a four-year period.
 
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Mojocat said:
From Erik's link:

What is the “death penalty”?

The repeat-violator legislation (“death penalty”) is applicable to an institution if, within a five-year period, the following conditions exist:

  • Following the announcement of a major case, a major violation occurs and
  • The second violation occurred within five years of the starting date of the penalty assessed in the first case. The second major case does not have to be in the same sport as the previous case to affect the second sport.
  • Penalties for repeat violators of legislation, subject to exemptions authorized by the committee on the basis of specifically stated reasons, may include any of the following:
    • The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation for one or two sport seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from involvement (directly or indirectly) in any coaching activities at the institution during that period
    • The elimination of all initial grants-in-aid and recruiting activities in the sport involved in the latest major violation in question for a two-year period.
    • The requirement that all institutional staff member serving on the NCAA Board of Directors; Leadership, Legislative, Presidents or Management Councils; Executive Committee or other Association governance bodies resign their positions. All institutional representatives shall be ineligible to serve on any NCAA committee for a period of four years and
    • The requirement that the institution relinquish its Association voting privileges for a four-year period.
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anyway, to focus on this (so much going on here I'm distracted like a monkey on speed, heh).....looks like there are two conditions that have to be met before the death penalty can be considered (first two bullit points). Louisville clearly meets the first one. Does it meet the second? What is the "starting date of the penalty assessed in the first case"? Technically, you can't start the penalty phase until the appeals process is completed, but that can't be what is meant. That would be a loophole big enough for a truck to drive through....
 
UKErik said:
With today's news that U6 has gotten themselves involved in yet another scandal, it's probably safe to say they won't be playing basketball in a couple of years. Hell, U6 hasn't even had their previous scandal dealt with as of yet.

Longer term, you have to wonder who U6 will be able to hire to coach in that shit factory! I honestly think U6 is looking at the death penalty, and that will probably be followed up with heavy scholarship restrictions.

This could be the end of U6 basketball as we know it.

GBB!!!
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Scotty Davenport will take the job. Of course, after the first year or two, after Rick resigns, he will have an extended vacation of one or two years.
 
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kyups1, North Carolina is gonna get absolutely hammered IMO. They've totally failed to take responsibility for their issues. Hell, they basically told the NCAA yeah, the classes were fake, and it's none of your business.
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The NCAA's protection of the UNCheat program will know no limits, but with the current cloud hanging over CBB, any failure to at least seriously and strongly punish the Tar Holes, will be a neon lit, billboard sized statement that the NCAA is not serious about cleaning up the toilet that it has created. While anything is possible when it comes to the NCAA, failure to adress 20 or so years of blatant academic fraud willl ultimately be a self inflicted death blow in the eyes of the general public.
 
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The death penalty seems to be a real possibility. But, that is a rare penalty and it really hurts the NCAA, other teams and conferences. So, I am doubting that is the result.

Pitino is gone. Should have happened by now, but will happen. He probably forces them to fire him, but that is inevitable. Jurich? Probably the same, but may get a chance to resign.

UL fans wondering who will be their next coach. Why would any reall basketball name consider going to the Cards now?

Any thoughts on who might take that job, assuming there may be a couple of years of ban from the tournament?
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They'll hire Miller since AZ is also in trouble now too. Birds of a feather...
 
I'm agreeing with the previous poster who doesn't believe that the death penalty will ever be used again.
Too much money in TV and conference affiliations these days.
 
ukbob said:
No.

There will never be another NCAA death penalty.
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I think you're wrong.

I understand your view, but THIS is different. UL's coaching staff apparently just got busted by the FBI on videotape arranging a $100,000 illegal payment to a recruit IMMEDIATELY AFTER UL had already just been busted for another unrelated major scandal (and had been implicated in several other sordid scandals in recent years).

If you followed the SMU story, you might recall what really set the NCAA off was how they kept cheating even immediately after getting busted, and thus the NCAA concluded nothing else but the death penalty could get them to stop. Well, guess what, that's the SAME damn thing UL's done here.

Plus, the fact that this was uncovered by the Feds/FBI has to scare the shit out of the NCAA, meaning extra strong incentive to drop the hammer this time.

I think UL's probably gonna get the first death penalty we've seen since SMU.
 
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Considering Louisville has the balls to commit this infraction immediately after another, I can't see how they wouldn't get the death penalty. Its a complete lack of institutional control and its not accidental infractions or out of the University's control. A University employee advised on how to hide illegal financial transactions from the NCAA noting they were already on probation.

They dead man.
 
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ukbob said:
No.

There will never be another NCAA death penalty.
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I'm forced to agree with you on that.

Also, as an aside, your avatar may be the funniest thing I've seen today. And, on a day like this, that's saying something.
Well done, sir.
 
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