Ulis

[UPSCat4080]

it is easy to spot the fans who only watch uk basketball. the top PG in college doesnt shoot 35% from the floor, 28% from three.

but keep pushing your agenda.

Watch college ball atleast 4 nights of the week that its on and I'm home not including UK ball and have played/coached ball the past 20 years of my life.

As has already been stated in this thread a top PG is not measured ONLY by their shooting percentages and anyone who tries to do so (i.e. You) is ignorant. Ulis is a leader who directs this team as good as anyone in the nation. He finds the open man who usually doesn't hit the jumper, knocks down shots and free throws in crucial moments, and proved last year when he shot 40+% from three that he is a good shooter who is apparently in a funk.

As for your "people are unfair to Andrew" bitching...it was more about effort than stats with that kid. He did not lead the team, he did not pass he ball most times to anyone except #2 and he consistently showed horrible body language. That is not a top point guard in any facet of the game.

I wouldn't expect you to know that though considering that you seem to be one of those arm chair guys who hasn't played or been around the game except while sitting in front of the television. You probably feel like that you have picked up more than anyone else with all of the basketball spectating you have done in your years though, so there is no getting through to you.

 

[brianpoe]

Boston would prefer Tyler not start, he has been clear about that prior to the season starting and I think it was mostly for defensive reasons.

Tyler is our best "floor general" and gets the ball to the right spots.

That said, he is not playing at an elite level at this time. Not only are shots not falling he has had some bad turnovers.

Defense has not been a problem.

I do agree with other poster that sloppy hands Marcus and missed bunnies by others have cost him a bunch more assists.

Tyler can get to the upper echelon but needs to prove it leading the team, not off projections from last year or summer videos.

 

[buckkiller]

Imagine if this team was sjooting better his assists woukd be way up. He is only going yo get better as this team grows bank on it!

 

[BostonCat2001]

Imagine if this team was sjooting better his assists woukd be way up. He is only going yo get better as this team grows bank on it!

imagine if ulis' shooting was better...murray's and briscoe's assists would be up

 

[buckkiller]

imagine if ulis' shooting was better...murray's and briscoe's assists would be up

No doubt as soon as all 3 guards get there shooting going at once we will be just about be unstoppable.

 

[Federal Cat]

Ulis makes everybody on the team better when he plays and he is really good on defense so I got no problem with him, there trying to come together as a team, it don't happen overnight and we got the W

 

[WCBcats]

Didn't read the whole thread but if you can't see what a positive influence Tyler is even without the assists you are crazy. Calm cool and collected. Doesn't get half the assists he deserves because we don't finish. Might trade Ulis for Dunn but not one other point guard out there. If you watch basketball you see his talent. It's obvious. Of course he's a better shooter than he's shown the first 10 games. That happens. We see teams peak too early all the time. Tyler will be knock down when we need. He is the last player that deserves to be talked negatively about. What's his assist to turnover past 4 games. Like 28 to 8 or something. Kid is the least of our problems. Wish we could have him 4 years. There's more to the game than a stat line. If you've played before you know that.

 

[michaeluk26]

Watch college ball atleast 4 nights of the week that its on and I'm home not including UK ball and have played/coached ball the past 20 years of my life.

As has already been stated in this thread a top PG is not measured ONLY by their shooting percentages and anyone who tries to do so (i.e. You) is ignorant. Ulis is a leader who directs this team as good as anyone in the nation. He finds the open man who usually doesn't hit the jumper, knocks down shots and free throws in crucial moments, and proved last year when he shot 40+% from three that he is a good shooter who is apparently in a funk.

As for your "people are unfair to Andrew" bitching...it was more about effort than stats with that kid. He did not lead the team, he did not pass he ball most times to anyone except #2 and he consistently showed horrible body language. That is not a top point guard in any facet of the game.

I wouldn't expect you to know that though considering that you seem to be one of those arm chair guys who hasn't played or been around the game except while sitting in front of the television. You probably feel like that you have picked up more than anyone else with all of the basketball spectating you have done in your years though, so there is no getting through to you.

Bullshit, Andrew Harrison was a damn stud last year from January on. He was playing better and more consistent than any other player not named Towns. He saved our asses numerous times. He did not lead the team? Uh, he lead us to two straight final fours right? He was the starting pg on both of those teams right?

This bullshit body language crap was just code for people who blamed everything on him. Don't care what anyone says, bostoncat is right. Andrew would be killed by people on here when Ulis could post the same or worse stat line and people will bend over backwards to defend and praise him. But my issue is not with Ulis, I love his game. My issue is the very vocal group of people like you who would blast Andrew when he made one mistake while ignoring all the good he did. That kid was a damn good point guard and it sickens me to see people spout the crap like you just did.

Without him there would not be 2 final fours and an undefeated regular season. Not trying to be a dick but I have been sick of the ridiculous Harrison bashing since 2014.

 

[UPSCat4080]

Bullshit, Andrew Harrison was a damn stud last year from January on. He was playing better and more consistent than any other player not named Towns. He saved our asses numerous times. He did not lead the team? Uh, he lead us to two straight final fours right? He was the starting pg on both of those teams right?

This bullshit body language crap was just code for people who blamed everything on him. Don't care what anyone says, bostoncat is right. Andrew would be killed by people on here when Ulis could post the same or worse stat line and people will bend over backwards to defend and praise him. But my issue is not with Ulis, I love his game. My issue is the very vocal group of people like you who would blast Andrew when he made one mistake while ignoring all the good he did. That kid was a damn good point guard and it sickens me to see people spout the crap like you just did.

Without him there would not be 2 final fours and an undefeated regular season. Not trying to be a dick but I have been sick of the ridiculous Harrison bashing since 2014.

Yeah I'm sorry. Your right. It's just that everyone likes Ulis soooo much better because they hate Andrew. I don't know why so many people are unfair to little Andrew.

Why in the hell would anyone purposely hate on Andrew? There isn't a reason other than his play on the court. He didn't "lead us" to crap. His brother bailed us out the first year with huge shots mixed with Julius and James turning it up. Andrew had one big game and the rest were average. Last year he and Aaron are the main reasons we lost to Wisconsin and once again...Andrew wasn't outstanding....better than 2014, but not leading the team to victories by himself. I think where he is now speaks for it's self.

 

[warrior-cat]

Did not read all of the responses so sorry if already posted but, you can watch all of the other teams in the nation and compare him to the others all you want however, when it comes to bringing the ball up the court and getting it to the open man, Ulis gets it done on this team. Plus, he is one of the best point guards in the nation imo.

 

[DaveUK4life]

3-11 shooting, beaten regularly on defense and praised like a god. must be nice

He's not a god, but he adds much more than he subtracts. Of all Cal's PGs, I'd take Wall over him... and no one else.

 

[K_TIME]

Guys...let's get real for a second. Stats matter even at the PG position. And Tyler's line is not real pretty.

1. 12pts 4 reb, 5.4 ass, 1.9 TO, 1.3 steals..so he is scoring OK, nearly 3 to 1 assist is crazy good.
2. 34% FG, 28%3pt...is really awful shooting. He has to pick it up on efficiency.
3. Andrew shot 38%FG, 38%3pt and had a 2 to 1 assist to TO ratio and was never praised as much as Ullis is around UK.

Ullis is a player that many (included myself) that you want to like due to his fiestiness on the floor and also his size makes him sort of a story that he overcomes his stature. But in the end, none of that matters...can you get it done is all that matters and Ullis is solid but not great PG on the whole. He struggles to score in the paint due to his size a times which only magnifies Tyler's need to shoot better on the deep ball.

 

[warrior-cat]

Harrison had better players at every position last year which took some of the pressure off. Teams this year can focus more on the player bringing it up the floor more. Plus, the Harrisons were 6'6" tall and could shoot over most guards guarding them

 

[BostonCat2001]

Harrison had better players at every position last year which took some of the pressure off. Teams this year can focus more on the player bringing it up the floor more. Plus, the Harrisons were 6'6" tall and could shoot over most guards guarding them

ulis will always have an out from fans. always. must be great.

 

[warrior-cat]

ulis will always have an out from fans. always. must be great.

And, we will always have whiners if we don't win every game by 20 points or more.

 

[BostonCat2001]

And, we will always have whiners if we don't win every game by 20 points or more.

like last year right? when we went 38-1. when we killed everyone. yet people crushed andrew/aaron for shooting it so bad. blamed them for everything

 

[wcc31]

@BostonCat2001 is a bitch which he has proven time and time again. Sorry your crush Andrew caught hell. Get over it. You talk
smack but you don't know ish. I'll smack you around any day when it comes to basketball.

 

[warrior-cat]

like last year right? when we went 38-1. when we killed everyone. yet people crushed andrew/aaron for shooting it so bad. blamed them for everything

Yes. No argument on this point. It is what I am also talking about. You seem to be doing to Ulis what you disliked people doing to the Harrisons. Right?

 

[BostonCat2001]

@BostonCat2001 is a bitch which he has proven time and time again. Sorry your crush Andrew caught hell. Get over it. You talk
smack but you don't know ish. I'll smack you around any day when it comes to basketball.

personal attacks against me just confirms how correct i am. some folks cant handle being wrong. but keep being a clueless hypocrite. its a long year, but this team is a joy to watch. best shooting and passing team ever. better than last year. and ulis is one of the best PGs ever. LOL

i just hope next year when fox is the starting point guard and ulis is coming off the bench, fox gets the same type of support from fans that ulis getting even if he shoots 30% from the floor and 28% from three.

 

[DaveUK4life]

@BostonCat2001 is a bitch which he has proven time and time again. Sorry your crush Andrew caught hell. Get over it. You talk
smack but you don't know ish. I'll smack you around any day when it comes to basketball.

56,000 posts and this is what you offer the thread. C'mon, man.

 

[wcc31]

Booohooooo! Boston's a joke. He's a

personal attacks against me just confirms how correct i am. some folks cant handle being wrong. but gone...keep being a clueless hypocrite. its a long year, but this team is a joy to watch. best shooting and passing team ever. better than last year. and ulis is one of the best PGs ever. LOL

i just hope next year when fox is the starting point guard and ulis is coming off the bench, fox gets the same type of support from fans that ulis getting even if he shoots 30% from the floor and 28% from three.

You're a passive aggressive little bitch who doesn't know ish about basketball.

 

[wcc31]

Curious about what I'm wrong about, too. Andrew was my favorite player on last year's squad. Unlike you, though, I'm not blubbering about his mistreatment 5 days a week.

 

[wcc31]

56,000 posts and this is what you offer the thread. C'mon, man.

This isn't anything new. This geek has been doing this all year. I'm not going to pussyfoot around about it. He's a little bitch and he doesn't know ish.

 

[DaveUK4life]

This isn't anything new. This geek has been doing this all year. I'm not going to pussyfoot around about it. He's a little bitch and he doesn't know ish.

You can challenge someone without turning the thread into a gutter. Unless you don't know how.

 

[UK2005_24]

Ulis is very good but this whole narrative that he is the best PG in the nation and that he's our best player needs to stop. .. I also think Ulis gets a pass for his poor play due to his size and personality. ..,

 

[wcc31]

Just calling it as I see it. Why mince words?

 

[wcc31]

Ulis is very good but this whole narrative that he is the best PG in the nation and that he's our best player needs to stop. .. I also think Ulis gets a pass for his poor play due to his size and personality. ..,

Until his injury, both claims had merit. It wasn't just UK fans, but also national analysts, NBA front office types, opposing coaches, Calipari, etc.

It's easy to see why, too...unless you have an Andrew complex.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Until his injury, both claims had merit. It wasn't just UK fans, but also national analysts, NBA front office types, opposing coaches, Calipari, etc.

It's easy to see why, too...unless you have an Andrew complex.

the injury happened during the usf game. before that, ulis' 3 point shooting numbers were:

• 2-5 40%
  
• 0-2 0%
• 0-4 0%
• 1-3 33%
• 1-5 20%

the "until the injury" narrative are fans making excuses in order to believe what they want to believe. yes before the season started it was believed ulis would be a top 5 PG in the country. maybe even the best. 1/3 of the season in the books...that is not the case. if ulis didnt have a jersey with "kentucky" on the chest...he would be an after thought based on his play to date

 

[DaveUK4life]

the injury happened during the usf game. before that, ulis' 3 point shooting numbers were:

• 2-5 40%
  
• 0-2 0%
• 0-4 0%
• 1-3 33%
• 1-5 20%

the "until the injury" narrative are fans making excuses in order to believe what they want to believe. yes before the season started it was believed ulis would be a top 5 PG in the country. maybe even the best. 1/3 of the season in the books...that is not the case. if ulis didnt have a jersey with "kentucky" on the chest...he would be an after thought based on his play to date

1/4 of the season.

It sounds like you're implying that his shooting is his most significant contribution to the team. He is shooting poorly, and its disappointing, but he is performing at the level in every other aspect which was expected of him. I'd argue that his shooting is the least most important thing he does.

 

[BostonCat2001]

1/4 of the season.

It sounds like you're implying that his shooting is his most significant contribution to the team. He is shooting poorly, and its disappointing, but he is performing at the level in every other aspect which was expected of him. I'd argue that his shooting is the least most important thing he does.

regular season is a 3rd over. fans gave up on previous players way earlier than that. and our offense is grossly ineffective at times. i would say his shooting is very important as it takes us from a better than average team to a really good/great team. ulis is going to play 35 minutes a game. if he cant shoot and we know briscoe cant and wont. we now have teams that will sag off and make it that much harder on our big men. big men who are not cousins, davis, and towns. so what do we have...murray to make all the shots and plays?

 

[UKWildcats#8]

it is easy to spot the fans who only watch uk basketball. the top PG in college doesnt shoot 35% from the floor, 28% from three.

but keep pushing your agenda.

I think people let Ulis get a pass because of his height and the fact he is not gonna be some NBA player, other than maybe a cup of coffee type or career backup with no expectations. Ulis didn't really play better than Murray today yet in another thread a guy was trashing Murray for having a bad game "based on his talent level" or whatever that means. I thought 17 and 5 assists was a sold game myself.

Yeah I'm sorry. Your right. It's just that everyone likes Ulis soooo much better because they hate Andrew. I don't know why so many people are unfair to little Andrew.

Why in the hell would anyone purposely hate on Andrew? There isn't a reason other than his play on the court. He didn't "lead us" to crap. His brother bailed us out the first year with huge shots mixed with Julius and James turning it up. Andrew had one big game and the rest were average. Last year he and Aaron are the main reasons we lost to Wisconsin and once again...Andrew wasn't outstanding....better than 2014, but not leading the team to victories by himself. I think where he is now speaks for it's self.

No they weren't. They were the main reasons (other than Towns) that UK went from down 9 to up 4 to have a chance to quote "lose the Wisconsin game." You failed to mention that they were the main reason we were in a position to get to that point at 5 minutes to go. Cal takes them out when we go down 9 and Wisconsin wins by 15-20 IMO.

 

[rolaid]

His shot is struggling because he has developed the JP Blevins I'm going to ball fake with nobody with in 10' of me because that's what we do in a dummy drill.

Instead of anticipating the open shot for some strange reason he thinks somebody is charging him. We need him to shoot wide open shots. He has a good stroke.