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UK ranks dead last in plays-per-game

While I agree that Mitch is not the best with contracts, Stoops would owe UK $4.5 million (used to be $1.75 million) if left after this season (that number decreases by $500,000 each year of the contract).

And I definitely disagree with your first sentence around the football program, especially the structure of his contract. The 75% buyout number much in the middle in football contracts today:

Heupel's is 100% at UT
Jimbo's is 100% guaranteed throughout his contract.
LSU is 90% with Brian Kelly
Shane Beamer is 65% at USC
Drinkwitz is at 75% at Mizzou
Napier is at 85% at Florida
Hugh Freeze is 75% at Auburn
Arnett is at 50% at MSU

Arkansas is one of the few teams in the country that does a tiered buyout based on performance. If he has an overall winning record, he will be owed 75% but if his overall record is below .500, he would be owed 50%.
I must have remembered wrong on Stoops then. Thought he got the same garbage type deal that only penalizes the school like Cal did. Might have been his original contract.
 
I must have remembered wrong on Stoops then. Thought he got the same garbage type deal that only penalizes the school like Cal did. Might have been his original contract.
It probably was his original contract, but he has had a clause in his contract for quite awhile now about him paying the university if he leaves. His latest extension in 2022 took a huge jump to $4.5 million he would owe the university.
 
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It probably was his original contract, but he has had a clause in his contract for quite awhile now about him paying the university if he leaves. His latest extension in 2022 took a huge jump to $4.5 million he would owe the university.
That's still peanuts compared to what it costs the other side. What is it like $50+ million? These coaches need smaller base pay with huge incentives. That's the only way to keep them invested in improving. That will never happen though.
 
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That's still peanuts compared to what it costs the other side. What is it like $50+ million? These coaches need smaller base pay with huge incentives. That's the only way to keep them invested in improving. That will never happen though.
Yep...I always think it's funny that if they don't do the thing they are hired to do...win games...that's not a reason you can fire them. Coaches definitely have the leg up on contracts.
 
Agreed, just another way to gig Stoops. UK's situation is really simple...catch more passes, commit fewer dumb ass penalties and you're more productive. Would it lead to more wins? Having a pass rush and DBs who can stay within 10 yds of WRs would help.
The only negative I can see to our slow snapping of the football per each play....I imagine that correlates to some of the procedure penalties.

But in the end, execute the play is what really matters.
 
we don't break the huddle until 15 second left on the play clock, then we do a check, so we are snapping the ball with under 7 seconds on every offensive play, and we do a bend but don't break that allows the other team to slowly march down the field taking more time off the clock.
 
Stoops has used this system since being named UK's head coach, not sure why it's suddenly an issue. It wasn't when UK was 5-0. I understand how much more talented UK is than when CMS arrived. But it's still lagging behind UT, UGA, UF and Close with Missouri. Yes I know UK smoked UF. Missouri is openly buying players and has a couple billionaire alum who could each buy an NFL team. Maybe UK does too. But at best the QB/RECEIVER combo is 5th of 6th in division. A huge disappointment to BBN because it was expected to be outstanding.
The issue will be that we can't get recruits because our QBs here only throw for 150 yards, our leading receivers catch only a couple of throws a game . Top players are not going to come here and get limited opportunities due to the play clock getting close to zero every snap . We are the four corners equivalent of football and have been since Stoop has got here .
Tell me you don't understand football, without telling me you don't understand football.

Pacing and TOP are a big deal. You shouldn't always play up tempo. You also shouldn't always play like a snail.

And in our case, we can't develop any kind of rhythm due to that and penalties. It's KILLING our offense and isn't helping our defense either.
Stoops actually said before the season he wanted to use more tempo this year. We haven't. Sad thing was that he alluded to Scangs offense not even having to ability to go tempo even if we wanted to. What era of football are we even playing?
I still don't get the plays per game stat and why it is so meaningful.

1. UK is scoring 31 pts a game...for 50th out of like 130 teams. I do think it will go down a bit more as we've played all of our bad teams and as the better teams are played...we are scoring less 13 vs. UGA and 21 vs. Mizzou But point is we are mediocre scoring offense.

I get we've had I can remember 3 defensive scores and some special teams that set us up....but I can't adjust that number for everyone...so let's say that evens out as the year wares on.

2. Most NFL teams do indeed snap the ball late in play clock. They all huddle up, there is pre snap motion to tell the QB zone/man and they do indeed to many shifts to confuse the defense pre snap. We all wanted Coen and NFL system....isn't this part of it?

In the end, it only matters to me if you score the ball and we aren't great but not terrible. The passing offense has been poor but the running attack has been top tier again. I agree we need to execute better on offense but this stats seems nebulous to me. And more Stoops piling on....Coen brought this style to UK.
That 31 ppg is with the entire cupcake part of our schedule included. Three non-SEC games and Vandy.
 
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The issue will be that we can't get recruits because our QBs here only throw for 150 yards, our leading receivers catch only a couple of throws a game . Top players are not going to come here and get limited opportunities due to the play clock getting close to zero every snap . We are the four corners equivalent of football and have been since Stoop has got here .

Stoops actually said before the season he wanted to use more tempo this year. We haven't. Sad thing was that he alluded to Scangs offense not even having to ability to go tempo even if we wanted to. What era of football are we even playing?

That 31 ppg is with the entire cupcake part of our schedule included. Three non-SEC games and Vandy.
Tubby Smith also said he wanted to run a fast paced offense.
 
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I think you just proved that the plays per game stat is irrelevant. It’s the drops, penalties, and poor completion percentage that are killing us.

Correct. Fix that and our plays per game drastically improve.

We played slow last time Liam was here. Fans didn't care because we threw the ball and he wasn't gran. No one cared earlier this season because we were winning and overcoming the drops etc with explosive plays especially in the run game.

NFL play style will always be slow. The play call, the shifts, the motions - it is what it is. If guys want more snaps and balls - they need to execute on the opportunities they get which will keep drives alive..
 
We rank 125th on average time of possession per game. We average 26:35 TOP per game.
55.3 plays / 26:35 TOP = a little over 2 snaps (2.08) per minute of possession ... fwiw

Here is a link for plays per game:

Here is a link for time of possession:

NOTE: Scroll left to see last year's data in far right column ...
 
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Stoops has used this system since being named UK's head coach, not sure why it's suddenly an issue. It wasn't when UK was 5-0. I understand how much more talented UK is than when CMS arrived. But it's still lagging behind UT, UGA, UF and Close with Missouri. Yes I know UK smoked UF. Missouri is openly buying players and has a couple billionaire alum who could each buy an NFL team. Maybe UK does too. But at best the QB/RECEIVER combo is 5th of 6th in division. A huge disappointment to BBN because it was expected to be outstanding.
He hasn't used this system the whole time. He started with dumbed down air raid due to personnel. Then he hired Dawson for air raid. They went to the run run and run more out of necessity and it saved his job but there isn't any growth in it. I think he knows it has to improve but he sort of fights himself with it if that makes sense. He wants conservative ball on both sides but kind of knows it can't get to the next level. It has been some degree of issue in recent years. Not that I think the fan base feels like it needs to be 'up tempo' but just offensively, in general, needs to improve because it is the thing that keeps uk from taking a next step. We can't be one side only in the sec and have a chance to swipe off big boys along the way. There are going to be games where you have to score some. Right now, it's largely....'if the game gets played this way we can win...' but if it's not we don't have a shot. Eventually it has to get to where you have a chance to win a game you don't play well on d. We get behind and we're largely done.
 
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Another way the slower than slow tempo hurts us that I haven’t really seen discussed yet is that it makes it very difficult to play from behind and limits our play calling.

I keep seeing it brought up that we stopped feeding Davis too soon when he was still averaging 4 yards per carry in the second half. The problem is that we fell behind by 14 points pretty quickly in the 4th quarter. At that point, it becomes an issue where there’s not enough clock left to chip away at them 4 yards at a time, because even if we scored that way, there wouldn’t be much time left for the second score we needed as slow as we are getting plays in. That forced us to look for bigger chunks in the passing game earlier than we’d have necessarily needed to if we ran a more normal tempo.
 
Another way the slower than slow tempo hurts us that I haven’t really seen discussed yet is that it makes it very difficult to play from behind and limits our play calling.

I keep seeing it brought up that we stopped feeding Davis too soon when he was still averaging 4 yards per carry in the second half. The problem is that we fell behind by 14 points pretty quickly in the 4th quarter. At that point, it becomes an issue where there’s not enough clock left to chip away at them 4 yards at a time, because even if we scored that way, there wouldn’t be much time left for the second score we needed as slow as we are getting plays in. That forced us to look for bigger chunks in the passing game earlier than we’d have necessarily needed to if we ran a more normal tempo.
We were up starting the 4th Quarter though. And what killed the defense was not only that damn 8 yard cushion White is so found of but penalties.
 
You can say Stoops kinda did too when he won 10 games twice. Lol.
Yeah, no. lol

Football is a hard title to win as well, but winning that NCAA Men's Tournament is one of the hardest things to do in sports due to randomness. I would say they are both equally hard for completely different reasons.

Bless his heart, Stoops can't even win the East.
 
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Winning a basketball title takes a lot of luck. Winning a football title usually comes down to who has the best players. Basketball in most years isn't won by the "actual" best team. Parity in a five man sport is a whole lot closer than parity in a 22 man sport.
 
Your offense is moving the sticks and your D is stopping people ? Just a guess
Your offense moves the sticks by completing passes and making successful runs not by the sheer amount of plays you run. If you have a bad offense that runs plays every 20 seconds all you've done is punted in record time and forced a tired defense to get back on the field with less rest.
 
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Another way the slower than slow tempo hurts us that I haven’t really seen discussed yet is that it makes it very difficult to play from behind and limits our play calling.

I keep seeing it brought up that we stopped feeding Davis too soon when he was still averaging 4 yards per carry in the second half. The problem is that we fell behind by 14 points pretty quickly in the 4th quarter. At that point, it becomes an issue where there’s not enough clock left to chip away at them 4 yards at a time, because even if we scored that way, there wouldn’t be much time left for the second score we needed as slow as we are getting plays in. That forced us to look for bigger chunks in the passing game earlier than we’d have necessarily needed to if we ran a more normal tempo.
Agreed. You are very limited when you have no way of speeding it up. Stoops says we do, but it's not been shown that Coen or him are comfortable with actually doing it. With horrendous punting that gives the opponent short fields, you better be able to get those points back. Once we get down two scores our run game gets non-existent in the 2nd half. We just snap it so slow, that we don't have enough time to eat up yards in small chunks. Our bend but don't break defensive philosophy almost makes it impossible to come back with a offense this slow.
 
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