Great post .Originally posted by ZaytovenCat:
It's obvious reading this thread that the majority of y'all haven't seen these guys in person.
If you don't like Zimmerman because you think he plays out on the perimeter too much and doesn't have much of a post game then I guess you won't like Thon Maker either. That's what's funny about all the posters downing Zimmerman and wanting Maker. Maker plays the majority of the time around the perimeter and is even thinner than Zimmerman. Diallo is currently Marcus Lee. He's a energetic player who brings defense but has little to no offensive skills. He scores off lobs and put backs. Swanigan is good but he's not as good as Zimmerman.
Zim is a 7 footer with good offensive skill both inside and out and can handle the ball for his size. He also has potential to be a very good defender. Plus he's also a good, not great, athlete for a 7 footer. I'd much rather have Zim over Diallo and would take him over Swanigan as well. Maker needs to stay in the 2016 class both for his and UK's interest. For him he needs more weight and strength plus he needs to badly work on his game down low and forget roaming the perimeter and jacking 3's. He's a tweener in college. He's practiced and built his game to be a perimeter player but Cal isn't going to let him play outside at his size. Problem is he's not strong enough and isn't as skilled as he needs to be to make a big impact in major college ball like many fans think he will. For UK, we already have Skal who is built similar and has a similar skillset. Zimmerman is also similar. 2015 is loaded with bigs and 2016 is not. I'd much rather take Zimmerman in 15 and Maker in 16. I'd also pick having Dakari or Towns back next year over Maker.
Not a miss at all. From the beginning, I never expected Zimmerman to play for Kentucky. He will stay out west. We will be just fine with Skal Labissiere, Thon Maker, Thomas Bryant, Marcus Lee, Alex Poythress. I expect Maker and Bryant to sign with us in the spring.Originally posted by CatBallou252:
According to 24/7 Sports (whom I consider the worst recruiting site out there with a complete doosh for a CEO).
How big of a miss would he be for Cal in terms of replacing WCS and Dakari?
honestly that is 99% of this board but i think most of us , including you , know that going in .Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:
Ah, another speculation-presented-as-fact thread.
This post was edited on 1/27 7:21 PM by Son_Of_Saul
Starting with your 1st sentence, I totally agree. I now feel there is hope that I can read some posts from some who actually have an understanding of the game and the kids. Thanks!Originally posted by ZaytovenCat:
It's obvious reading this thread that the majority of y'all haven't seen these guys in person.
If you don't like Zimmerman because you think he plays out on the perimeter too much and doesn't have much of a post game then I guess you won't like Thon Maker either. That's what's funny about all the posters downing Zimmerman and wanting Maker. Maker plays the majority of the time around the perimeter and is even thinner than Zimmerman. Diallo is currently Marcus Lee. He's a energetic player who brings defense but has little to no offensive skills. He scores off lobs and put backs. Swanigan is good but he's not as good as Zimmerman.
Zim is a 7 footer with good offensive skill both inside and out and can handle the ball for his size. He also has potential to be a very good defender. Plus he's also a good, not great, athlete for a 7 footer. I'd much rather have Zim over Diallo and would take him over Swanigan as well. Maker needs to stay in the 2016 class both for his and UK's interest. For him he needs more weight and strength plus he needs to badly work on his game down low and forget roaming the perimeter and jacking 3's. He's a tweener in college. He's practiced and built his game to be a perimeter player but Cal isn't going to let him play outside at his size. Problem is he's not strong enough and isn't as skilled as he needs to be to make a big impact in major college ball like many fans think he will. For UK, we already have Skal who is built similar and has a similar skillset. Zimmerman is also similar. 2015 is loaded with bigs and 2016 is not. I'd much rather take Zimmerman in 15 and Maker in 16. I'd also pick having Dakari or Towns back next year over Maker.
Originally posted by UKPhilly:
Starting with your 1st sentence, I totally agree. I now feel there is hope that I can read some posts from some who actually have an understanding of the game and the kids. Thanks!Originally posted by ZaytovenCat:
It's obvious reading this thread that the majority of y'all haven't seen these guys in person.
might want to rethink that statement you recruiting expertOriginally posted by ZaytovenCat:
It's obvious reading this thread that the majority of y'all haven't seen these guys in person.
2015 is loaded with bigs and 2016 is not. I'd much rather take Zimmerman in 15 and Maker in 16. I'd also pick having Dakari or Towns back next year over Maker.
You might "serious doubt" it, but in my case you would be seriously wrong.Originally posted by wldctky:
Originally posted by UKPhilly:
Starting with your 1st sentence, I totally agree. I now feel there is hope that I can read some posts from some who actually have an understanding of the game and the kids. Thanks!Originally posted by ZaytovenCat:
It's obvious reading this thread that the majority of y'all haven't seen these guys in person.
and I seriously seriously doubt you two have seen them in person either...just like the rest of us you read a brief synopsis about a player, watch a few video clips and draw your own conclusions .....get over yourselves you are NOT the recruiting experts you want people to think you are
This post was edited on 1/29 12:45 PM by wldctky
easy to say but impossible to prove?Originally posted by UKPhilly:
You might "serious doubt" it, but in my case you would be seriously wrong.Originally posted by wldctky:
Originally posted by UKPhilly:
Starting with your 1st sentence, I totally agree. I now feel there is hope that I can read some posts from some who actually have an understanding of the game and the kids. Thanks!Originally posted by ZaytovenCat:
It's obvious reading this thread that the majority of y'all haven't seen these guys in person.
and I seriously seriously doubt you two have seen them in person either...just like the rest of us you read a brief synopsis about a player, watch a few video clips and draw your own conclusions .....get over yourselves you are NOT the recruiting experts you want people to think you are
This post was edited on 1/29 12:45 PM by wldctky
I know most scoff at that possibility, but I don't. Yea, I know he's projected 3rd and 4th in some drafts, but honestly he's had a number of games where he just hasn't looked that impressive. I think he still needs to work some on his game, and given the young man he is, and some of the things he's said I won't be all that surprised if he does come back.Originally posted by ThroughBlue:
Not if KAT returns
he can work on his game at the next level. 24 hours a day without being interrupted with going to class and stuff. all while getting paid top 5 money.Originally posted by BoulderCat:
I know most scoff at that possibility, but I don't. Yea, I know he's projected 3rd and 4th in some drafts, but honestly he's had a number of games where he just hasn't looked that impressive. I think he still needs to work some on his game, and given the young man he is, and some of the things he's said I won't be all that surprised if he does come back.Originally posted by ThroughBlue:
Not if KAT returns