UK loses running back commitment
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Then why are you here? To say sorry?
You keep taking what I say to the absolute extreme. Do you approach every conversation this way?
UT is fine with its offensive skill positions; it's in the trenches and defensive back 7 where UT lags behind UGA.
To talk football. Isn't that the purpose of the board?
Because your original point made no sense. But you have the opportunity to make it make sense. You say UT shouldn't worry about recruiting because we can't beat UGA, so wouldn't that apply to UK and everyone else, since none of us seem to be able to beat UGA? Or is it you taking it to the absolute extreme by making it only about UT?
I realize you are upset that the RB decommitted, but it's not like he flipped to UT. He may; but he had other SEC offers around the same time UT offered, so who knows? I hope he picks UT, obviously, but will have to wait and see
I was just generally giving the TN fans that showed up here shit by saying your prospects in the East are not going to change for you with his commitment. It’s not that deep. You are reading WAY too into this.
UK has offered 17 RBs. 12 were rated ahead of the previously committed Keith. It's not very likely that Keith was #1 on their board. He might have been the most likely to accept.
Does UK do well gauging lower rated players? Absolutely. Are they picking them over higher rated kids? Definitely not.
Oh I get that. 100%. It’s kinda like when someone like Derrick Henry is a recruit. Of course everyone knows he’s gonna be a big time back and everyone offers him. Tennessee has offered most all the big time backs too. We can’t seem to lock a super high rated one down either. We’d definitely take a high rated one over a low rated one in most cases. Crod is better than the backs on our roster and we have a couple pretty decent backs. I’m hoping for a big time transfer portal player this year just like I know some Kentucky fans are as well.
Ok 4:1? From what I’ve watched it’s throw on 1st down Second down Third down & so on.
I thought you got Cam Seldon? He's high end on certain services and it was believed yall offered him as a RB. (Penn State guy who frequents here) I believe we wanted him as a defensive player.
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So you guys are second in passing offense and 37th in rushing offense. So what are you watching Vol?
Personally I think the transfer portal and to a lesser extent maybe nil is gonna change the way certain positions like rb are recruited very quickly. The big name 5 stars will still get their big offers but maybe like high 3 stars who before we’re a second back taken at powerhouse schools for insurance won’t get offers and now will have to go play a year or two at your akrons and Kent states and schools of that size and plan on transferring when or if they light it up and powerhouses will be recruiting transfers more than non for sure in their mind players. I think we are already seeing it like with bama and Gibbs last year. Instead of really turning up pressure and recruiting for a top notch hs back they just take from the have nots. Kind of a shame in a way. Think it will be option b after the top few hs players are signed.
We did and I’m pretty excited about him. We need one more though in my opinion. We have serviceable backs but no game changers like we needed against Georgia last weekend.
Obviously you recruit to win, but my overall point was more so that Georgia is not going to be stopped any time soon. Second place is as good as it’s gonna get for TN because Georgia appears to be hitting that Alabama Goldilocks Zone of dominance. Enjoy it! Hope the 25-year wait was worth this.
You may be right, but that doesn't mean you stop trying.
I am having a blast. It's been a fun year so far, to be sure, in spite of last Saturday. And November will be even better because we have football and now basketball.
Our football team has hasn’t quite been what we hoped for but I’m hopeful our bball team is as good as advertised. We have a shot to be exceptionally good if we can avoid the injury bug. Looking forward to it.
Cats look to be loaded. UT should be good. Most veterans return and some good looking newcomers both from high school and the portal. SEC should have 4-5 really good teams (Ark, Aub, Bama, UK, and UT) and then a bunch of really tough outs when you are at their place.
Have we ever signed a recruit that we were head to head with Clemson?
I certainly can't think of one. Know several we tried and failed on.
Most of those yards are QB take offs and delays hand offs (basically draws on pass sets). Not straight line up run plays a big back would be used for.
We did the same thing with Mumme, most all run plays really run deceptions off the passing game.
This is not true. We do run a few designed qb runs but or rb’s account for the majority of our rushing and they aren’t delayed handoffs either.
No offense, but this is not accurate. UT's RBs have 271 carries (1238 yds) between 4 backs, with Small and Wright acciunting for the bulk of those carries. Hooker has a total of 91 carries (355 yds), which includes both scrambles and designed carries.
Florida has a free board but it’s combined FB, BB, etc and not nearly as active as this board or even the USC board.
i just looked up data through last Saturday.
Big UGLY Orange. YTD rushes. 389
Big Ugly passes YTD. 284 attempted passes
Call us what you want but Tennessee runs more than it passes as you proved and if anyone looks it up uga actually passes more than runs. The perception Tennessee is a air raid offense is completely inaccurate. I think the pass happy perception is from the huge chunk plays they get pretty often by getting mismatches like a linebacker on a slot and so forth. It is much more run based and heavy than I ever thought when we first hired heupel.
Yes, those rushing attempts look about right when you combine Hooker's rushing attempts with the RB's attempts, then add in the few designed end arounds plus some rushes and scrambles by the 2 backup QBs in mopup time. In 2021 UT had a 51%-49% pass/run ratio, but this year, as the OL has been better at run blocking, they have been more of a run team, which makes the play action more effective when they want to go deep.
I had the privilege to work at male last yr and he’s a gray kid and built like a truck.
This decommitment hurts. Kind of old school for UK. Identify a talent before others confirm, but lose him when others notice. I don’t think we say “meh” because other backs on the board were more highly regarded by some service. The kid is not decommitting to attend Akron. We lost a good one, I think. And, we need a good one.
Who is the JUCO RB comingf in for an official visit for Vandy, and how does he stack up to Cox and Keith?
Name's Robert Henry out of Jones CC in MS. Click on "Recruiting" link above and type in his name, film available. Not the fastest guy but seems to have good vision and looks to be a tough runner. Ahead of the HS runners UK's looking at.
Coach Cal paid kids cash in McDonalds bags like your dirty ass trash program? FOH clown, LOL at you and your fraudulent program that no one respects.
Just like the lying UK doesn't support NIL goofs who can't actually say how UK doesn't support NIL, you can't say how Cal cheated. Just like them you lazily adopted someone else's talking point and narrative, that's why neither of you frauds can give specifics about anything.
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I’m supportive of fans of other teams coming onto this board to talk football if they are genuinely talking football and not trolling. What you find is the vast majority of the pro-TN posters in years past (and present) were(are) obnoxious trolls. Every fanbase has them (with Iowa being the exception). So the UK fans on this board have grown hypersensitive to any football talk from TN fans.
It seems pretty clear that you two are the exception. I don’t get the sense you are here to bait or troll the UK posters. That makes you welcome in my book. If you can police the trolls in your fanbase, we would all appreciate it.
We all tend to be very emotional about our favorite teams and that emotion can overrule logic and rational thinking quite often. I’m definitely subject to that phenomenon, but am getting better with age.
I am always up for a sensible discussion about teams, personnel, coaching, recruiting, etc. whether I like your team or not. It broadens my football knowledge when it’s a discussion using facts and/or well-informed opinions. It’s a trainwreck when it turns into criticism of the poster and devolves into name calling. As long as we keep the discussion about the facts and well-informed opinions, I say please continue posting and ignore the criticism from folks that are struggling with what has turned into a disappointing season for UK football. We’re all disappointed, but we can’t change the team’s record.
It seems pretty clear that you two are the exception. I don’t get the sense you are here to bait or troll the UK posters. That makes you welcome in my book. If you can police the trolls in your fanbase, we would all appreciate it.
We all tend to be very emotional about our favorite teams and that emotion can overrule logic and rational thinking quite often. I’m definitely subject to that phenomenon, but am getting better with age.
I am always up for a sensible discussion about teams, personnel, coaching, recruiting, etc. whether I like your team or not. It broadens my football knowledge when it’s a discussion using facts and/or well-informed opinions. It’s a trainwreck when it turns into criticism of the poster and devolves into name calling. As long as we keep the discussion about the facts and well-informed opinions, I say please continue posting and ignore the criticism from folks that are struggling with what has turned into a disappointing season for UK football. We’re all disappointed, but we can’t change the team’s record.
The QB runs are not designed runs, they are scrambles. Hooker takes off out of the pocket a lot and is very dangerous doing that and all those yards go down as run yards.
We do have some designed qb runs. We don’t run them a lot but you will see at least a couple each game. I was responding to you saying most of our runs are delayed handoffs to the back (very little of our runs) and we don’t intentionally run the qb. There’s a good mix of all of it in UTs offense. As far as delayed handoffs go it’s not those as much as it is a qb option to pull it and pass or go ahead and hand off but it’s not a true delayed handoffs. Lots of our rb runs are flat out runs with no qb pull and pass option.
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