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UK has zoom with LSU’s Vyctorius Miller

The portal been open for 1 week and the team literally just lost on Friday and once again certain fans can not just be patient. Didn’t yall learn anything last off szn. Be patient man.
I get what you’re saying. I’m definitely being impatient, but after the “softness” of this past season, I’m craving some aggressiveness.
 
I also like the growing trend of fan-based narratives that treat every program out there (for example, the rumor that Auburn offered Oweh $2.2 million; Dent got a bag worth $2-$3 million from UCLA; Tennessee has an elite booster class, etc.) like they have secret millionaire and billionaire boosters but not little ole Kentucky.

It's amazing that we could afford the highest paid coaches all these years and the #1 recruiting budget in the world with our little rinky-dink tradition and our rabid fan base that only consists of 5 to 6 million obsessive fans.

Gosh, if only we could get more committed fans like UCLA, Tennessee, and Auburn, eh?
 
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Pope must like something since he had a zoom call, so I am good with it. 6’5 long arms I like it.

I mean the name Vyctorius fits very very well with our upcoming glor(y)ious days.
 
Would have? What about now?
I understand what you’re saying but the more that we have to say ok, what about now, is more time that the Dents and Eaglestaffs are signing elsewhere. Dent was a HUGE MISS and I won’t be convinced otherwise. Everyone clamored and claimed it was no big deal last year when we let Great OSOBOR walk in favor or Brandon freakin Garrison!!!! Spare me with that shit. Brandon Garrison is a very, very average player and couldn’t hold Osobors jock on his best day.
 
I understand what you’re saying but the more that we have to say ok, what about now, is more time that the Dents and Eaglestaffs are signing elsewhere. Dent was a HUGE MISS and I won’t be convinced otherwise. Everyone clamored and claimed it was no big deal last year when we let Great OSOBOR walk in favor or Brandon freakin Garrison!!!! Spare me with that shit. Brandon Garrison is a very, very average player and couldn’t hold Osobors jock on his best day.
Dent was a miss. Eaglestaff was not a miss. Osobor wanted to be the man and used us for more money and then followed his coach.
 
One..just because we contact some guys doesn’t mean we’re going to sign them. Two, we just went though a horrific year with injuries so don’t color me shocked the staff is looking to develop depth.

Christ, we’ve spent the last 10 years whining about how the previous administration wouldn’t develop depth and leave scholarships on the table. This staff looks like they are trying to do the opposite and it’s bitch bitch bitch
 
I thought that's what Chandler, Kam Williams, Noah, Perry, and Lewis were for.

We already have a Roman's legion worth of role players for next year.

Waiting on some "superstars" now, to use Pope's own word.
Good players yes, but In doubt their will ever be the so called superstar in the transfer portal. maybe Jasper Johnson will be our superstar, maybe Chandler after a year back in basketball will be as well, every team is made up of maybes, shoulda, and coulda now a days I feel maybe with NIL it about team not individuals. I thinkmthe past means nothing anymore.
 
Good players yes, but In doubt their will ever be the so called superstar in the transfer portal. maybe Jasper Johnson will be our superstar, maybe Chandler after a year back in basketball will be as well, every team is made up of maybes, shoulda, and coulda now a days I feel maybe with NIL it about team not individuals. I thinkmthe past means nothing anymore.
Dalton Knecht was sure close.
 
I also like the growing trend of fan-based narratives that treat every program out there (for example, the rumor that Auburn offered Oweh $2.2 million; Dent got a bag worth $2-$3 million from UCLA; Tennessee has an elite booster class, etc.) has secret millionaire and billionaire boosters but not little ole Kentucky.

It's amazing that we could afford the highest paid coaches all these years and the #1 recruiting budget in the world with our little rinky-dink tradition and our rabid fan base that only consists of 5 to 6 million obsessive fans.

Gosh, if only we could get more committed fans like UCLA, Tennessee, and Auburn, eh?
Agreed I’m getting tired of the narrative.

The only validity in my opinion would be our remaining NIL budgets. Just use these VERY VERY loose figures as an example:
2 mill for SR Otega
1.25 mill for FR Jasper
600k for FR Acaden
600k for FR Malachi
750k for SO Kam Williams

In that ridiculously put together example UK would’ve committed 5.2 mill already not factoring in potential other returners of Chandler, Garrison, Noah, Perry. The local duo of Perry/Noah have little value in the portal market so I doubt we pay much in straight pay to play NIL. They probably still do great off the local ads I see and hear all the time though.

The biggest difference so far in roster building compared to last year is the freshmen. We probably got Carr, Williams, and Kriisa for about the same combined as our 3 freshman this year. We just can’t point to proven performance with our guys this year to have any sense of expectations.
 
I understand what you’re saying but the more that we have to say ok, what about now, is more time that the Dents and Eaglestaffs are signing elsewhere. Dent was a HUGE MISS and I won’t be convinced otherwise. Everyone clamored and claimed it was no big deal last year when we let Great OSOBOR walk in favor or Brandon freakin Garrison!!!! Spare me with that shit. Brandon Garrison is a very, very average player and couldn’t hold Osobors jock on his best day.
Dent and Eagle are gone. Look forward not backward. Who do you want that is left out there? Maybe it's just me but I'm looking for who we we get, not who we don't.
 
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Dent was a miss. Eaglestaff was not a miss. Osobor wanted to be the man and used us for more money and then followed his coach.
Osobor was ON OUR CAMPUS and could’ve been wrapped up but wasn’t. Washington paid the guy and we decided not too. That’s a miss no matter how you look at it.
Eaglestaff is 3x the player than Vyctorius Miller and we can go stat for stat and analyze if you want?
So where to go from here?
 
Osobor was ON OUR CAMPUS and could’ve been wrapped up but wasn’t. Washington paid the guy and we decided not too. That’s a miss no matter how you look at it.
Eaglestaff is 3x the player than Vyctorius Miller and we can go stat for stat and analyze if you want?
So where to go from here?
Miller is not starter or six man (like brea), Eaglestaff will be starter or six man, these two have different roles...
 
Osobor was ON OUR CAMPUS and could’ve been wrapped up but wasn’t. Washington paid the guy and we decided not too. That’s a miss no matter how you look at it.
Eaglestaff is 3x the player than Vyctorius Miller and we can go stat for stat and analyze if you want?
So where to go from here?
I guess wait for better guys to enter the portal or get better at tampering.
 
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I’m not saying we have to have 15, but right now I’m not sure we have 1, unless oweh is coming back. Talking to a mediocre player from 1 of the 2 SEC to not make the tournament is not exciting. Add in the fact we lost out on Dent makes the sense of urgency go up. I’m not necessarily concerned at this point but momentum is important whether you’re talking about this transfer portal or your program overall.
Did we lose out?
How do you know that.
Perhaps we passed.
Perhaps he wanted 2 bags and or coach thought better of it.
Perhaps we have another option.
I dont know.
I'm fairly certain you do not either.
 
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Did we lose out?
How do you know that.
Perhaps we passed.
Perhaps he wanted 2 bags and or coach thought better of it.
Perhaps we have another option.
I dont know.
I'm fairly certain you do not either.
I dont know anything. I’m just a fan bullshitting. But if we “passed” on Dent to go after this guy, we’re in trouble lol. If a top player wants 2 bags, you give him 2 bags. Thats how you get the best and win
 
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I dont know anything. I’m just a fan bullshitting. But if we “passed” on Dent to go after this guy, we’re in trouble lol. If a top player wants 2 bags, you give him 2 bags. Thats how you get the best and win
You do realize we had a zoom with Thomas Jr?? who was literally ranked right behind dent in one of the transfer rankings.

Thomas is way higher on the want list than Miller.
 
No way do I believe Pope passed on the best point guard in the portal.
He passed on paying him more than UCLA offered. My understanding was we gave him a fair offer he went to UCLA and told them the offer they offered more and he accepted maybe gave Pope and KY a counter offer but you can’t spend 1/3 of your budget on one guy unless he is the final piece to the puzzle which he obviously isn’t.
 
If you go by that no coach ever loses a player they wanted.
So you think Dent just decided to leave New Mexico in the last week?
Do you think he wouldn't have went to UCLA out of HS if he had been offered.
To me it's not hard to believe than an African American 22 yr old who was born and raised in California would prefer Westwood to Lexington.
 
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He passed on paying him more than UCLA offered. My understanding was we gave him a fair offer he went to UCLA and told them the offer they offered more and he accepted maybe gave Pope and KY a counter offer but you can’t spend 1/3 of your budget on one guy unless he is the final piece to the puzzle which he obviously isn’t.
His agents job is not to pick a school for him.
He picks the school and his agent gets him the most money possible.
If you were his agent don't you think it would be a smart move to publicly link him to UK and Duke to leverage UCLA ?
 
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they offered more and he accepted maybe gave Pope and KY a counter offer but you can’t spend 1/3 of your budget on one guy unless he is the final piece to the puzzle which he obviously isn’t.
I'm not so sure he wouldn't be the final piece of the puzzle if Oweh returns and the freshmen coming in you would just need couple of bigs.
 
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