UK has set two records for defections

[JFCats22]

according to CBS Sports with Bam leaving UK has now set two NCAA records.

First is the largest % of scoring for a team to lose and second (no surprise) is lowest average points per game for highest returning scorer (Wenyen @ 4 points per).

Not sure these are the kinda of records we want to set but it is what it is I guess.

 

[brianpoe]

according to CBS Sports with Bam leaving UK has now set two NCAA records.

First is the largest % of scoring for a team to lose and second (no surprise) is lowest average points per game for highest returning scorer (Wenyen @ 4 points per).

Not sure these are the kinda of records we want to set but it is what it is I guess.

Cal will be one badass if he pulls off a great season with these stats.

Media setting him up to kill it.

(I hope...)

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

according to CBS Sports with Bam leaving UK has now set two NCAA records.

First is the largest % of scoring for a team to lose and second (no surprise) is lowest average points per game for highest returning scorer (Wenyen @ 4 points per).

Not sure these are the kinda of records we want to set but it is what it is I guess.

Quick question, what about the platoon team? You would think we lost a lot of scoring on that team

 

[TexKat]

Cal will be one badass if he pulls off a great season with these stats.

Media setting him up to kill it.

(I hope...)

And Cal will rub their noses in it!!! These are the bright notes we live for.

 

[Mike-D]

 

[JohnBlue_]

There is not another program in the country that could lose that much and even be ranked in the top 25 the following season. Let's see if Cal can pull it off.

 

[Mike-D]

The stars are aligning

 

[brianpoe]

And Cal will rub their noses in it!!! These are the bright notes we live for.

 

[Smashcat]

according to CBS Sports with Bam leaving UK has now set two NCAA records.

First is the largest % of scoring for a team to lose and second (no surprise) is lowest average points per game for highest returning scorer (Wenyen @ 4 points per).

Not sure these are the kinda of records we want to set but it is what it is I guess.

UK will be fine. What did they say about Pittsburgh and Memphis? They won't be fine.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

UK will be fine. What did they say about Pittsburgh and Memphis? They won't be fine.

This.

And no surprise the OP ran to post this.

 

[TexKat]

There is not another program in the country that could lose that much and even be ranked in the top 25 the following season. Let's see if Cal can pull it off.

I'd bet on him to do it.

 

[JFCats22]

This.

And no surprise the OP ran to post this.

You don't think this is an interesting topic?

You always seem to have an issue and make sure to voice it. Most people ignore or move on when they don't like something, but you don't seem capable of doing so.

 

[Jazzycat]

So much of next year's success will depend on chemistry and meshing of the new guys. Speaking of young teams...this has to be one of the youngest in the nation next year.

The SEC will be much improved and their talent more experienced.

Another rebuilding year with less experience. I really hope they do an overseas trip this summer.

 

[Cawood86]

If UK adds Johnson and Bamba they will be right back in the hunt imo. If by some chance Diallo returns, UK becomes even more dangerous.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

You don't think this is an interesting topic?

You always seem to have an issue and make sure to voice it. Most people ignore or move on when they don't like something, but you don't seem capable of doing so.

UK8 can't stand for someone to disagree with him, often gets hostile and loves the sound of his own voice.

 

[CELTICAT]

Sounds like a bogus record to me. Pretty sure Evansville holds the record in both categories.

 

[jameslee32]

This.

And no surprise the OP ran to post this.

We'll be lucky to win a single SEC game with the talent of Tenn, Gawga, Florida, Ark and Bama.

According to my sources in those athletic departments.

 

[Bluegrass79]

THERE is no way in H .E. L. L. a team with zero SEC experience can win more than 10 games in the conference. 10-8 is max. Your looking at 8 to 13 losses next year total.
Those dudes next year better hope two of them are Anthony Davis and John Wall.
It is a tough road to hoe next year my friends. Cal will earn every penny and every gray hair that's for damn sure.
I like to think Kentucky fans know college basketball and most gotta be thinking.....uh-ohh.

 

[brianpoe]

THERE is no way in H .E. L. L. a team with zero SEC experience can win more than 10 games in the conference. 10-8 is max. Your looking at 8 to 13 losses next year total.
Those dudes next year better hope two of them are Anthony Davis and John Wall.
It is a tough road to hoe next year my friends. Cal will earn every penny and every gray hair that's for damn sure.
I like to think Kentucky fans know college basketball and most gotta be thinking.....uh-ohh.

It is a shame that we are not mature enough to just enjoy this group and hope they get better, knowing that in 2019 we have at least 2-3 mega studs coming in to join this those staying from this year's squad and a great shot at the title.

 

[Crankdatmustard]

UK8 can't stand for someone to disagree with him, often gets hostile and loves the sound of his own voice.

Actually the real problem is JFcats22 is a fraud UK fan. How ANYONE posting here can't sniff that out is head scratching

 

[JonathanW]

THERE is no way in H .E. L. L. a team with zero SEC experience can win more than 10 games in the conference. 10-8 is max. Your looking at 8 to 13 losses next year total.
Those dudes next year better hope two of them are Anthony Davis and John Wall.
It is a tough road to hoe next year my friends. Cal will earn every penny and every gray hair that's for damn sure.
I like to think Kentucky fans know college basketball and most gotta be thinking.....uh-ohh.

I don't think 10-8 is max. Maybe 10-8 is the expected. Because of the imbalanced schedule it partially depends on the schedule. I think 12-6 is doable. Also if we add Johnson, although not a returning player, he would be an experienced major conference starter.

 

[GLR5555]

Hope we make it to a play-in game at least. I'm bummed now.

 

[bookerfan66]

Good Lord.Let's wait until our roster is finished.Still a good chance Diallo returns and we add Bamba/Johnson.That's a final four quality team IMO.

 

[JonathanW]

Quick question, what about the platoon team? You would think we lost a lot of scoring on that team

Lee, Ulis, Willis, Hawkins, & from injury Poythress was more returning (22% of our minutes & 14% of our points).
Ulis averaged 5.9 ppg in 14-15.

 

[cats2010]

Cal will be one badass if he pulls off a great season with these stats.

Media setting him up to kill it.

(I hope...)

The majority of the media hope for the fail then write scathing articles (see fordes you made you bed now lie in it piece) chastising him on relying on freshman so much. Only to turn around and say how bad of a coach he is by not winning more titles with same said freshman.

You rarely ever see the piece talking about how well he brought a young class together.

 

[Titles1]

Just sickening that we don't have a title to lessen this blow.

 

[brianpoe]

Just sickening that we don't have a title to lessen this blow.

You went like 3 posts in a row without mentioning "Title", good job!

Now try that streak again...

 

[qwesley]

Sounds like a bogus record to me. Pretty sure Evansville holds the record in both categories.

dddddaaammmmnnnnn

 

[d2atTech]

Quick question, what about the platoon team? You would think we lost a lot of scoring on that team

we got poy, lee and ulis back from that one

 

[kydmb99]

It is a shame that we are not mature enough to just enjoy this group and hope they get better, knowing that in 2019 we have at least 2-3 mega studs coming in to join this those staying from this year's squad and a great shot at the title.

You still don't get it do you? No one who contributes on next year's team will be back in 2018-2019. That's not how this program operates.

 

[JonathanW]

This topic leads to the question, what relationship have we seen w/ Cal's UK team on team success and returning players. So I've done some brief research.

Team: #Return %Min %Pts %Reb Season-outcome
09-10: 6 62% 56% 75% Elite 8
10-11: 4 18% 13% 14% Final 4
11-12: 4 49% 54% 50% Championship
12-13: 4 7% 6% 6% NIT
13-14: 4 32% 31% 40% Runner-up
14-15: 8 65% 59% 59% Final 4
15-16: 5 22% 14% 17% 2nd round
16-17: 5 31% 24% 33% Elite 8
17-18: 3 11% 7% 16% ?

So the NIT 13 team returned fewer returning minutes (& rebounds) than we will next year, although those 4 players do not include transfers Mays & Harrow.
We didn't return a lot in 11 or 16 either. Of those 3 teams, only 11 played in the 2nd weekend of the tournament. That 11 team had improvements & significant contributions from 3 of the 4 returners, and 3 of the FR were very good as FR.

 

[brianpoe]

You still don't get it do you? No one who contributes on next year's team will be back in 2018-2019. That's not how this program operates.

Gotcha.

Signed,

Miller, Jones, Lamb, Wiltjer, Lee, Poythress, Dakari, Andrew, Aaron, Tyler, Wenyen, Hump, Willis and Hawkins.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Sounds like a bogus record to me. Pretty sure Evansville holds the record in both categories.

dddddaaammmmnnnnn

Let's hope that never happens again.

 

[kydmb99]

Gotcha.

Signed,

Miller, Jones, Lamb, Wiltjer, Lee, Poythress, Dakari, Andrew, Aaron, Tyler, Wenyen, Hump, Willis and Hawkins.

I'm well aware of them bud, thanks though. The epidemic of getting the hell out of Lexington ASAP is getting worse. Also, I would argue about Wenyen being a "contributor". He has no choice but to return. If he had been slightly better this season, he would be gone as well. Can't have that stigma of being a sophomore at Kentucky.

 

[JonathanW]

You still don't get it do you? No one who contributes on next year's team will be back in 2018-2019. That's not how this program operates.

I disagree.
1) This incoming class is not as good as our past classes, for both UK & everyone else. So I think you may see more upperclassmen in the first round next year (not a lot, maybe it goes from 5 to 8 or 10), and maybe more foreign players too.
2) We have at least 2 FR that we hope, expect, need to be, contributing players next year (Green & Washington), that are undersized (for their position) NBA players and thus will need to "show more" to be 1st round picks next year. In other words they will need to prove to be elite players, & probably be around 2-3 years. 6'1 pass first PGs don't go in 1st round often. Nor do 6'7 PFs. Swanigan was a monster this year and is projected late 1st early 2nd.
3) As another has pointed out we have had other "contributing players" return (left off his list was WCS who did it twice, & Poythress did a 2nd time).

 

[awf]

There is not another program in the country that could lose that much and even be ranked in the top 25 the following season. Let's see if Cal can pull it off.

But, but, but........Cal just rolls the ball out there......

 

[kev69]

Records are made to be broken.

 

[Ron Mehico]

All of Cals hairs are going to be grey by the end of the year. I hope fans aren't too hard on him next year, especially the beginning.

 

[NCukcat62]

Boy that never gets old.

 

[NCukcat62]

Back to the OP though, if cal pulls off a great season next year then that alone should shut up the rest of the naysayers especially from the growing anti cal movement on this board. But it won't